[higherdestiny]

BlackBerry Leap ? New BlackBerry Smartphone with 5? HD Screen - EN

[menshawy]

[anon(1852343)]

$120 and I will get one

Blackberry Passport running 10.3.1.2267

[Hypnoboy]

Are the specs really as crappy as what we've been told?

EDIT: Oh! Indeed they are!! Un-Great!

[mvpcrossxover]

Is this the formerly called as Rio?

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[higherdestiny]

Is this the formerly called as Rio?

Correct. This is a mid tier device.

[Mikey_NNG]

If it's a Q5 price point, will buy, if not... Z30.

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[Maxxxpower]

Correct. This is a mid tier device.

Mid tier? ROFL.

[baarn]

I'm hoping for competitive pricing too. But at least now, as z10s and z30s are becoming less available, touchscreen afficionados have something to reach for in a pinch. Seemingly no NFC though.

Anyone know what this means?:

Assisted, Autonomous and Simultaneous GPS
...
Support for User Plane and Control Plane GPS

[Skeevecr]

Swing and a miss on the pricing, it needed to be $50-75 cheaper than the $275 they mentioned in the live blog so it was in the same ballpark as devices like the Moto G.

[howarmat]

275 USD price for those that didn't know

[Maxxxpower]

275 USD price for those that didn't know

ROFL. What stuff do they smoke at BB HQ?

[vladi]

This guy has no chance next to Lumia 640, gran daddy of affordable slab phones.

So now we have a "budget" phone only for BlackBerry enthusiasts instead of a true mainstream budget phone. I don't know how they couldn't get some Chinese manufacturer to do this under a $100 msrp. And as far as the budget phones go if they aint available in the Walmart forget about moving any quantities.

[Skeevecr]

This guy has no chance next to Lumia 640, gran daddy of affordable slab phones.

No chance why? That one has less RAM and less storage to more than offset the quad vs dual core processor issue. A bigger struggle would be against something like the Moto G.

[vladi]

RAM is not an issue on Windows Phone. It works like a charm and being affordable phone means no app power users will touch it.

[Maxxxpower]

Yap. WP doesn't eat RAM like BB10 does.

[twiggyrj]

No chance why? That one has less RAM and less storage to more than offset the quad vs dual core processor issue. A bigger struggle would be against something like the Moto G.

The Lumia 640 is $100 dollars cheaper with better carrier support and dual sim options with 640XL phablet coming in at $245 with dual sim 4G

[Skeevecr]

The Lumia 640 is $100 dollars cheaper with better carrier support and dual sim options with 640XL phablet coming in at $245 with dual sim 4G

My mistake, I misread the pricing, but in any case it is still the likes of the Moto G that both the BB and the Lumia are competing with rather than specifically each other.

[twiggyrj]

My mistake, I misread the pricing, but in any case it is still the likes of the Moto G that both the BB and the Lumia are competing with rather than specifically each other.

I think Microsoft is aiming at completely at the low cost market to boost growth with a large chunk of people in developing markets its a viable growth strategy that could work for BlackBerry

[Skeevecr]

I think Microsoft is aiming at completely at the low cost market to boost growth with a large chunk of people in developing markets its a viable growth strategy that could work for BlackBerry

It is a viable strategy that can work if you have the bottomless pockets of a Microsoft, BB still need their hw to make money too.

[twiggyrj]

It is a viable strategy that can work if you have the bottomless pockets of a Microsoft, BB still need their hw to make money too.

Microsoft isn't losing money on the Lumias so it isn't a loss maker

[Maxxxpower]

It is a viable strategy that can work if you have the bottomless pockets of a Microsoft, BB still need their hw to make money too.

I don't think it's a good strategy to try to sell devices that are mediocre. It would be ok if they were a little more expensive and had competitive hardware. At the moment they are delivering devices with years old hardware that are totally overpriced.

[vladi]

I don't think it's a good strategy to try to sell devices that are mediocre. It would be ok if they were a little more expensive and had competitive hardware. At the moment they are delivering devices with years old hardware that are totally overpriced.

I am sure MS devices are heavy subsidized and Im not sure if they are even making money on them or taking a hit for the sake of marketshare.

Ideal strategy that BlackBerry cannot afford now would be to have Leap on all major prepaid carriers across the US for $99 right inside the Walmart and hope some of them would move onto flagship devices which could offset the price. Of course that would mean that BlackBerry should have their flagship phones with major carriers which would actually carry them inside of their stores, have them on display, have someone to know something about them, god forbid push them and have them promoted by some POP display. Mission impossible.

[MobileZen]

This gives budget conscious companies an option if their employees want all-touch. Not made for the cheapo consumers especially in a competitive market.

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[tszasza]

It's a 170 USD device...

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