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  1. smart548's Avatar
    The new moto g (2015) will mount an old snapdragon 400,as well as 2 GB of ram, a 5" display, a 2500 mah battery.. And will come out within a month. Of course it won't be priced high..But you know what? Also the Leap isn't priced as a flagship!
    BlackBerry,even if an ALL touch with great specs is required (be it the slider, be it BB10, Android..) is releasing devices with sense imho..

    Posted via CB10
    07-17-15 02:26 AM
  2. johnny_bravo72's Avatar
    And guess which of them will sell more?

    Posted via C5303
    07-17-15 03:43 AM
  3. Ment's Avatar
    Wrong! Moto G 3rd Gen will have the 410 SOC which is the most current 4XX offering from Snapdragon.
    5-inch 720p display, Snapdragon 410 SoC with 1.4 GHz quad-core Cortex A53 CPU and Adreno 306 GPU, models with 1GB RAM/8GB storage and 2GB RAM/16GB storage, microSD card slot, 13MP camera at the back, 5MP front shooter and a 2,470mAh battery.
    07-17-15 04:37 AM
  4. Matty's Avatar
    I do understand where you are coming from. BlackBerry is not aiming for the High-End market. They provide (currently) Mid range and low end devices. You are correct about the processor being old as it was announce in December of 2013 (almost 2 years)

    You could argue that the Passport was high end when it launch.

    Just for the Record the moto G is rumoured to have the below specs and also, for the above comments, no one is right or wrong since the device has not official launched yet.:

    Android 5.1.1
    Snapdragon 410
    Adreno 306

    13mp Camera (rear)
    5mp Camera (Front)

    2 GB RAM (16GB Storage)
    1 GB RAM (8 GB Storage)
    2,400 / 2,500 mAh battery

    IPX7 waterproof

    Posted via BlackBerry Q5 on 10.3.1.2576
    07-17-15 09:13 AM
  5. Ment's Avatar
    Moto G can't compete in that segment against the horde of similar phones using the SD400 for 3 versions in row as many of them also use the SD410. Stop being ridiculous.
    07-17-15 09:41 AM
  6. smart548's Avatar
    Be it the 410 or the 400..it doesn't make any difference, Matty here understand my point! ;-)

    Posted via CB10
    07-17-15 10:14 AM
  7. Matty's Avatar
    Be it the 410 or the 400..it doesn't make any difference, Matty here understand my point! ;-)

    Posted via CB10
    I Got your back

    Posted via BlackBerry Q5 on 10.3.1.2576
    smart548 likes this.
    07-17-15 03:14 PM
  8. blackberryz00's Avatar
    Still better then the old outdated 225 lol

    Posted via CB10
    07-17-15 04:42 PM
  9. Ed YANG's Avatar
    Do you know why Motorola keep using the same alphabets on their phones despite almost every single year they are releasing devices with minor design and hardware changes?

    Try this...
    X -for expensive, ala high-end.
    G -for general, ala mediocre specs and fairly affordable pricing.
    E -for economy, ala low-end with budget pricing and ahem... low-end specs.
    lift likes this.
    07-18-15 03:40 AM
  10. adonesc's Avatar
    The specs on the Leap haven't been an issue for me so far. Been using one since May after boxing my Z10.

    It's worked fine for me. Honestly, once I've started using it on a continuous and daily basis all that uproar about the specs of this device have gone out the window. They haven't bothered me or diminished my BlackBerry 10 experience in the least.

    There is plenty of information outhere, literally just a click away, for people to inform and educate themselves about this device should they consider or decide to buy one.





    Cartman says: Screw you guys I'm going home!
    lift, smart548 and brunoxrs like this.
    07-18-15 10:39 AM
  11. zephryn's Avatar
    It seems like the main reason people want spec bumps so badly is the fear of their device getting slow. Think of typical iPhone or Android user, not the power user, who searches out forums to find fixes for problems, but the one who wanted to save $100 by getting the older model. After a couple years their phones start to lag, pause, and not be able to handle the new features they hear their friends mentioned. So we have a culture of constantly slowing phones with the only solution marketed to us is to upgrade to the next great device in order to stave off obsolescence for a little while longer.

    Now look at BlackBerry's lineup. Several phones, all with similar processing power, and yet new features are still being added to the OS without any slowdown. Just look at what bb10.0 compared to 10.3, my Z10 still runs just as smoothly as it did launch day if not better. BlackBerry is forced to make their software more efficient instead of just throwing more hardware at it.

    So while yes, we all love things that go faster, but please don't let someone's experience with a 4S or 2013 Galaxy con you into believing that our devices will fall to the same fate so quickly. The Leap is a fine device.
    brdl04, smart548 and adonesc like this.
    07-23-15 11:25 AM
  12. brdl04's Avatar
    Ding Ding Ding!!! You guessed it.

    Blackberry could choose to keep the Z10 and equivalent specs relevant for years, or they could choose to give OS updates to slow it and force these users to new hardware.

    Blackberry has constantly stated they are focusing on the enterprise, where Dell and HP laptops reign supreme and 6+ years of life are required. I would not be surprised if the Z10 and equivalent specs are just fine for 2-3 more years.
    smart548 and adonesc like this.
    07-23-15 12:55 PM
  13. brunoxrs's Avatar
    At the end of the day, software optimization is more important than specs. IMHO.

    I think the Leap is an awesome phone that does everything I need it to do.

    What I'd love to see is a direct benchmark comparison between the Leap and the Z30.

    All the Z30 people talk about it like it's 2 or 3 times more powerful than the Leap. I'd like to see proof.

    I did four benchmarks:

    Vellamo Metal
    Quadrant Standard
    Antutu Benchmark
    Antutu HTML5

    Although benchmarks aren't really that important, at least it would show how both compare to each other.

    Any takers?



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    Posted via CB10
    07-23-15 04:36 PM
  14. brunoxrs's Avatar
    The results aren't important to compare to other devices since it's essentially testing the runtime performance, but in this regard it should be able to show performance against other BB10 devices.

    Posted via CB10
    07-23-15 04:41 PM
  15. zephryn's Avatar
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    07-23-15 07:44 PM
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    Finally some facts!

    Z30 scores 48.2% higher than Leap in the Antutu Benchmark, and scores 16.5% higher in the HTML5 benchmark.

    Any luck with the other tests?

    Posted via CB10
    07-24-15 05:15 AM
  17. zephryn's Avatar
    I wasn't sure where to find the other 2 tests so I just did these.
    07-24-15 07:44 AM
  18. Madhuchandran's Avatar
    As a user, I confirm that BlackBerry Leap is a Great device. No two opinions for me.

    Posted via CB10
    brunoxrs and Thalestr like this.
    07-24-15 08:46 AM
  19. brunoxrs's Avatar
    I wasn't sure where to find the other 2 tests so I just did these.
    Thanks for posting. I downloaded them from Google Play.

    Posted via CB10
    07-24-15 03:05 PM
  20. Maxxxpower's Avatar
    I would not be surprised if the Z10 and equivalent specs are just fine for 2-3 more years.
    How could this be possible if the are obviously not even fine for 2015?
    07-25-15 09:38 AM
  21. Thalestr's Avatar
    How could this be possible if the are obviously not even fine for 2015?
    I have a Z10, Leap, and Q5 (which is even less powerful than Leap).

    I own all 3 in 2015 and I can report they work just fine for everyday tasks.
    07-25-15 12:10 PM
  22. Maxxxpower's Avatar
    Some people still use BBOS devices for "everyday tasks". Others even their old Nokia mobile phones. Would that make these products "just fine" for today or even "2-3 more years"? Probably not...
    07-25-15 12:17 PM
  23. brunoxrs's Avatar
    Some people still use BBOS devices for "everyday tasks". Others even their old Nokia mobile phones. Would that make these products "just fine" for today or even "2-3 more years"? Probably not...
    'Just fine' depends on the user needs. While it wouldn't be acceptable to you, it is acceptable to others.

    As with anything in life, to each his/her own.

    Posted via CB10
    07-25-15 02:40 PM
  24. Maxxxpower's Avatar
    For some? Of course! (see my BBOS/Nokia example).
    In general? No way.
    07-26-15 03:00 AM
  25. Thalestr's Avatar
    For some? Of course! (see my BBOS/Nokia example).
    In general? No way.
    Then those other people should get phones which suit their needs.

    BlackBerry makes it pretty clear what their phones are made to do and what they market towards. Mostly security, commutations, workflow, business, and light media. In these categories every BB10 phone works very well.

    If you're looking for a multi-media powerhouse then maybe look at some Android phones because no BB10 phone is designed to do that.
    07-26-15 08:27 AM
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