1. primusd's Avatar
    Such nonsense...

    Unlocked version of BlackBerry KEYone delayed until 'later this summer' | MobileSyrup

    (edit: and no, I don't think this is because they are recalling stock back to give phones a quality review, as I'd heard long before the screen and other issues that it was going to be August...)
    06-27-17 03:14 PM
  2. ToniCipriani's Avatar
    Such nonsense...

    Unlocked version of BlackBerry KEYone delayed until 'later this summer' | MobileSyrup

    (edit: and no, I don't think this is because they are recalling stock back to give phones a quality review, as I'd heard long before the screen and other issues that it was going to be August...)
    https://www.cdw.ca/shop/products/BLA...-63116&pfm=srh

    CDW still showing Ingram Micro getting 1000 units though.
    06-27-17 04:33 PM
  3. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Bad for those wanting an unlocked one. Great for BlackBerry Mobile to have that much demand.
    06-27-17 04:34 PM
  4. primusd's Avatar
    Bad for those wanting an unlocked one. Great for BlackBerry Mobile to have that much demand.
    As a shareholder in for the long run, I would love to believe that demand in the carrier channels is what drove this announcement, but come on Bla1ze, let's not let the spin cloud our judgment... all they would need to do is allocate the units if they had them. For whatever reason, they don't seem to have them (bad planning, late realization of manufacturing quality issues, etc???)

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    06-27-17 06:11 PM
  5. Bla1ze's Avatar
    As a shareholder in for the long run, I would love to believe that demand in the carrier channels is what drove this announcement, but come on Bla1ze, let's not let the spin cloud our judgment... all they would need to do is allocate the units if they had them. For whatever reason, they don't seem to have them (bad planning, late realization of manufacturing quality issues, etc???)

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    Little more to it than a simple reallocation but ehh.. whatever. Is what it is.

    Unlocked KEYone in Canada delayed till 'later this summer'-giphy.jpg
    06-27-17 06:14 PM
  6. curves2000's Avatar
    Bad for those wanting an unlocked one. Great for BlackBerry Mobile to have that much demand.

    Bla1ze,

    Does it not strike you as strange that BlackBerry Mobile really couldn't have forcasted what is going on literally week to week?

    May 30th the phone launches with an unlocked Canadian version for "June" a few weeks into June were still saying June on BlackBerry Mobile twitter.

    Now today they mentioned the additional delay which I guess is a decent problem to have but it's annoying to the BlackBerry loyal clients to not know what's going on and have stories change regularly. Strange that things change so much so quickly literally week to week

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    06-27-17 06:20 PM
  7. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Does it not strike you as strange that BlackBerry Mobile really couldn't have forcasted what is going on literally week to week?
    Not really but that's only because we have zero numbers on what they're working with anyway. We dunno how many were sold, produced, put into channel, bought and returned or how many even TELUS customer demand needed to be made up for. No one but BlackBerry Mobile does and even then, they're not getting the numbers based on real time status information either.

    Even though some folks will call it spin or BS or whatever, it's pretty clear BlackBerry Mobile underestimated demand, even at their probably pretty modest expectations. This is their first go at a BlackBerry-branded device in a market that's much untested for BlackBerry Mobile specifically. They could have went all out and built wayyyyy too many or they could have stuck to their modest expectations and ran into the issue we're seeing.

    Either way, I don't think folks will be waiting THAT MUCH longer than the June timeframe for unlocked devices in Canada. As I noted on the post, they've already got a good handle on the current stock levels. Them putting the announcement of the slight delay out there, in my opinion, was getting ahead of the folks who would be complaining come July 1st. Is it ideal? Not at all. Does it make for a perfect headline? Not at all. But it's better than saying nothing and NOT keeping folks up to date.

    People always say they want to know more about what's going on but then some complain even more when they're told. Can't have it both ways lol.
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    06-27-17 06:27 PM
  8. curves2000's Avatar
    Not really but that's only because we have zero numbers on what they're working with anyway. We dunno how many were sold, produced, put into channel, bought and returned or how many even TELUS customer demand needed to be made up for. No one but BlackBerry Mobile does and even then, they're not getting the numbers based on real time status information either. Even though some folks will call it spin or BS or whatever, it's pretty clear BlackBerry Mobile underestimated demand, even at their proably pretty modest expectations.

    Well I am sure glad that this phone appears to be selling well. Hopefully the momentum keeps up and the partnership with CB continues. Great content and work in the last few months.

    I look forward to other BlackBerry Mobile devices coming in the near future, preferably a pkb BlackBerry that will work on Freedoms LTE network!

    Thanks for your insights as always

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    06-27-17 06:30 PM
  9. kbz1960's Avatar
    Probably lucky. Maybe get ones that the screen is glued on.
    06-27-17 06:32 PM
  10. primusd's Avatar
    Not really but that's only because we have zero numbers on what they're working with anyway. We dunno how many were sold, produced, put into channel, bought and returned or how many even TELUS customer demand needed to be made up for. No one but BlackBerry Mobile does and even then, they're not getting the numbers based on real time status information either.

    Even though some folks will call it spin or BS or whatever, it's pretty clear BlackBerry Mobile underestimated demand, even at their probably pretty modest expectations. This is their first go at a BlackBerry-branded device in a market that's much untested for BlackBerry Mobile specifically. They could have went all out and built wayyyyy too many or they could have stuck to their modest expectations and ran into the issue we're seeing.

    Either way, I don't think folks will be waiting THAT MUCH longer than the June timeframe for unlocked devices in Canada. As I noted on the post, they've already got a good handle on the current stock levels. Them putting the announcement of the slight delay out there, in my opinion, was getting ahead of the folks who would be complaining come July 1st. Is it ideal? Not at all. Does it make for a perfect headline? Not at all. But it's better than saying nothing and NOT keeping folks up to date.

    People always say they want to know more about what's going on but then some complain even more when they're told. Can't have it both ways lol.
    Agreed... it is what it is, but I was hopeful that with a giant manufacturer like TCL at the helm, we could turn the page on the ‘hurry up and wait’ approach of the BB of old.

    And I’m not looking for it both ways. I fully understand TCL hedging their bets in terms of production estimates and avoiding some massive PlayBook-type inventory write-down because they misread the market demand. But at the same time, when things were unfolding late May/early June, how did they not already know they wouldn’t have the inventory to make factory unlocked models available in Canada end June (and/or would decide the BB love in Canada was still big enough that they could afford to let the market wait a little longer... again (twice)).

    So my gripe is very much about the poor communications approach. Surely they knew more than a few days ago that the would not have direct unlocked phones available here in June, but they waited until just a few days before to announce it and in doing so, continue to string those wanting a factory unlocked phone along. Even now, no concrete commitment, just ‘later this summer’. I hope you're right that its not much longer...

    I guess its my fault for having aspirations that BB Mobile could do better. Their first at bat has shown otherwise... caveat emptor.

    (ps- with few other options [for my liking], I’ll still be waiting and buying mine as soon as I can)
    06-27-17 07:37 PM
  11. app_Developer's Avatar
    They may be facing unexpected demand, or they may be having to produce more warranty replacements than expected.

    Or it may be they have an interruption in production as they improve the adhesive.

    Or I suppose some combination of all 3 is possible.
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    06-27-17 08:05 PM
  12. mhw100's Avatar
    I bought a Rogers unit outright, unlocked it and still want a factory unlocked even tho this device is perfect. I'm having an impulsive moment to spend an extra 150 or so to import one from the US through a border broker now that it wont be here until say September.
    06-27-17 09:30 PM
  13. primusd's Avatar
    They may be facing unexpected demand, or they may be having to produce more warranty replacements than expected.

    Or it may be they have an interruption in production as they improve the adhesive.

    Or I suppose some combination of all 3 is possible.
    Yep, likely some combination of all 3. Having been so forthcoming about the screen issue (which in reality seems to be fairly limited in scale), I just wish they had been more forthcoming (i.e. sooner and with more than just 'we couldn't keep up with demand') on the communication front about availability.
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    06-27-17 09:50 PM
  14. Bla1ze's Avatar
    And I’m not looking for it both ways.
    I wasn't referring to you directly, just some folks out there are a little.... extra lol.
    06-27-17 10:31 PM
  15. primusd's Avatar
    I wasn't referring to you directly, just some folks out there are a little.... extra lol.
    I hear ya... all good!!

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    06-27-17 10:34 PM
  16. primusd's Avatar
    https://www.cdw.ca/shop/products/BLA...-63116&pfm=srh

    CDW still showing Ingram Micro getting 1000 units though.
    Still just showing 1000 units incoming... I wonder if this is phantom stock after all??
    07-05-17 03:20 PM
  17. laketrout73's Avatar
    Expected date was changed from July 6 to August 14.

    Q10SQN100-1/10.3.3.2205 | Bell
    07-05-17 03:53 PM
  18. salbass's Avatar
    Expected date was changed from July 6 to August 14.

    Q10SQN100-1/10.3.3.2205 | Bell
    Yup, if you go to pc-canada they have changed the ETA from July 6th to August 14th.

    I've lost hope and will be cancelling my preorder and buying direct from Bell at this point. Ridiculous though! How many time will they delay this...
    07-05-17 05:21 PM
  19. salbass's Avatar
    Still just showing 1000 units incoming... I wonder if this is phantom stock after all??
    It's now back to 0.
    07-06-17 02:12 AM

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