- Not meeting demand for the launch maybe.... of course we are talking Apples and BlackBerries here. Whole different level of production and demand, but same principle really. You gear up production for what is the most cost effective based on long term demand, not just launch day. TCL "problem" is what will demand be after the launch.06-01-17 07:53 AMLike 0
- I think he's parroting the common belief that Apple purposely builds iPhones in low quantities at launch just to artificially inflate demand, then says that demand was overwhelming. Just a guess. They've managed to sell 70+ million units in each of the last three launch quarters, so their sales don't seem to be hurting. Of course, even if Apple is guilty of doing that , it's not an acceptable practice for them or any other company.
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06-01-17 07:55 AMLike 0 - Telus had 1108 in stock in warehouse at midnight last night. And that's considering they were only planning on selling to business. Presumably now that they're offering to consumers they will need more
Posted via CB10OrlandoAlex likes this.06-01-17 08:01 AMLike 1 - He is a liar. I'm sorry but the delay was due to incompetence. And now the lack of stock is also due to Gross incompetence. There is absolutely NOT overwhelming demand. That is total BS. An overt lie.saf20016 and nappalonia like this.06-01-17 08:06 AMLike 2
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Remember when the other BlackBerry phones were released (Z10 and Priv) and how the pre-orders went. Remember that BlackBerry was really pleased with the response? Then we find out sales sucked swamp water.
All I am trying to say is don't get too excited about appearances of demand exceeding supply. We have seen it before and it did not indicate a sales boon, much as we all want it to be.
Personally this launch is not well done. There are no Keyone's to be had in Kentucky. I guess BlackBerry Mobile doesn't think we need them in this part of the country. But then again, I have heard no person indicate they even know it exists. I have seen no local articles or news stories, but then I don't expect to. People don't know BlackBerry is still in existence, or that they make secured Android phones let alone make phones at all.
Sad, but true. But let's hope the KEYone can overcome this launch.OrlandoAlex likes this.06-01-17 08:13 AMLike 1 -
- I think he's parroting the common belief that Apple purposely builds iPhones in low quantities at launch just to artificially inflate demand, then says that demand was overwhelming. Just a guess. They've managed to sell 70+ million units in each of the last three launch quarters, so it makes you wonder if they were actually doing that. Of course, even if Apple is guilty of doing that , it's not an acceptable practice for them or any other company.
However, I always succeeded in getting me iPhones, Ipads, covers, cases and even a pencil, right after launch. I don't think that 'they sell a huge number, compared to BB' is a good enough excuse.
There has been - intentional or not - significant hype over the K1, for many months, then delays after delays, even after the official announcement, and now even the official launch seems to be messed up. And all of that accompanied by very few but hard to believe 'official' statements, which proved to be wrong, only some days or weeks later.
I can't remember any Apple - launch that bad. To me it seems quite obvious that there was only a ridiculously small number of K1 devices shipped to some stores as a kind of alibi, to allow for claiming something like 'see....we delivered on our promises'.
The only launch of Apple's that I remember that was/is equally ridiculous and embarrassing is for their air pods, which are still hard to get, many months after announcement.FF22 and OrlandoAlex like this.06-01-17 08:18 AMLike 2 - Ok, I just have to say one thing for all of the "know-it-alls" here who seem to think they know how many were built and sold... Not counting the thousands sold elsewhere, do you guys realize just how many cities there are in the USA? I am not at all exaggerating when I say there are well over 10,000 cities, maybe closer to 20,000, in the USA. And while I know some regions didn't get this kind of coverage, every BB in my area, 10 of them around my zip code, had them in stock. Only 2 of them showed they had only a few while the rest showed them simply as in stock (I don't know what their threshold is to determine if there's only a few left versus when there's stock...), and they had some online, as well as Amazon, simple reason and logic would tell you they would have needed to have WAY more than these ridiculous numbers you guys are throwing out...
But anyway, don't know why I'm trying, I know in these forums you either have to be all-in fanboy and think that they've sold a gazillion phones or an edgy complainer who think they've sold 14 phones, and nothing in between... So just disregard this little bit of nonsense from me, sorry...Mike-Mike and DolemiteDONS like this.06-01-17 08:42 AMLike 2 - Is he, SC, going to have a special interview at UTB.or something like that on June 2? Let's hear the news from "original source" rather than predict, guess, from few back office computer buddies...
Steve Cistulli to join us on June 2nd for a Special Blogcast - UTB Blogs
Posted via CB1006-01-17 09:28 AMLike 0 - Ok, I just have to say one thing for all of the "know-it-alls" here who seem to think they know how many were built and sold... Not counting the thousands sold elsewhere, do you guys realize just how many cities there are in the USA? I am not at all exaggerating when I say there are well over 10,000 cities, maybe closer to 20,000, in the USA. And while I know some regions didn't get this kind of coverage, every BB in my area, 10 of them around my zip code, had them in stock. Only 2 of them showed they had only a few while the rest showed them simply as in stock (I don't know what their threshold is to determine if there's only a few left versus when there's stock...), and they had some online, as well as Amazon, simple reason and logic would tell you they would have needed to have WAY more than these ridiculous numbers you guys are throwing out...
But anyway, don't know why I'm trying, I know in these forums you either have to be all-in fanboy and think that they've sold a gazillion phones or an edgy complainer who think they've sold 14 phones, and nothing in between... So just disregard this little bit of nonsense from me, sorry...
The European shopping sites, since many weeks now, have been showing K1 stock just for minutes, if at all, before they went out of stock again (maybe the UK as an exception).
When checking for all other phone brands, including 'smaller' ones like HTC, Huawei, Sony etc., why is it that I can see stock of almost all of their phones, almost everywhere? Even the most recent phones, that were launched very recently?
I got my K1 yesterday evening, and when I returned it today morning, because it was defective, they were out of stock already, and could not replace it. And there were NO hundreds of people queueing up in front of the store to purchase all their K1s. So they just had very few.
My opinion still stands: very messed up launch. I hope no technical or design issues, but bad planning 'only'.06-01-17 09:34 AMLike 3 -
I was surprised the SIM and SD card just sit in the tray, not the previous secure fit. The difference between BlackBerry and TCL apparently.06-01-17 09:36 AMLike 0 - Well, maybe. But if you wake up at 12:00am pst they open pre orders and majority or most loyal fans get it on launch day or within that week as orders come through. I was able to get all my 4s + on launch day with pre orders and thats ordering as late as morning off. I think apples situation is that majority of shipped phones get claimed by launch date which speaks volumes. Cudos for them.06-01-17 09:48 AMLike 0
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- Au contraire mon ami. If I pull out the tray and flip it over, the SIM and SD cards fall onto the desk. In contrast I can shake the tray from my BlackBerry PRIV and the SIM stays in place. Obviously a new tray design for the BlackBerry KEYone maybe falling other smartphone manufacturers. Not a problem, just unexpected.OrlandoAlex likes this.06-01-17 01:17 PMLike 1
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