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  1. conite's Avatar
    If you have ever run an autoloader on your KEYᵒⁿᵉ, you will NOT be able to update to Oreo UNLESS you use Sugar to wipe and load your current/designated Nougat build BEFORE doing the OTA update.

    Of course, it is "likely" possible to use Sugar after the fact to install a clean version of Oreo - but as that situation does not yet exist, I can't test it.

    Instructions can be found here:

    https://forums.crackberry.com/blackb.../#post13238088

    The beta program demonstrated that most (or all) people who had EVER run an autoloader could not detect their SIM card after updating.

    Edit: If you can't log into Sugar, you can use the older Mobile Upgrade Tool instead.

    https://forums.crackberry.com/blackb...-tool-1117513/
    Last edited by conite; 07-22-18 at 06:56 PM.
    07-18-18 11:28 AM
  2. Felipe Arriaza's Avatar
    Thank you for the warning
    If you have ever run an autoloader on your KEYᵒⁿᵉ, you will NOT be able to update to Oreo UNLESS you use Sugar to wipe and load your current Nougat build BEFORE doing the OTA update.
    skinnymike1 likes this.
    07-18-18 11:30 AM
  3. Felipe Arriaza's Avatar
    Sorry for the question, but, what is sugar?
    If you have ever run an autoloader on your KEYᵒⁿᵉ, you will NOT be able to update to Oreo UNLESS you use Sugar to wipe and load your current Nougat build BEFORE doing the OTA update.
    07-18-18 11:30 AM
  4. conite's Avatar
    Sorry for the question, but, what is sugar?
    Follow the posted link.
    Felipe Arriaza likes this.
    07-18-18 11:31 AM
  5. Felipe Arriaza's Avatar
    Ok, thank you
    Follow the posted link.
    07-18-18 11:32 AM
  6. FuzzyManas's Avatar
    why?
    07-18-18 11:34 AM
  7. Felipe Arriaza's Avatar
    What if i have the autoloader of my keyone of may? It will work?
    Follow the posted link.
    07-18-18 11:35 AM
  8. conite's Avatar
    why?
    I updated the first post.
    07-18-18 11:37 AM
  9. FuzzyManas's Avatar
    I updated the first post.
    Thanks!
    07-18-18 11:38 AM
  10. wfm69685's Avatar
    If you have ever run an autoloader on your KEYᵒⁿᵉ, you will NOT be able to update to Oreo UNLESS you use Sugar to wipe and load your current/designated Nougat build BEFORE doing the OTA update.

    Instructions can be found here:

    https://forums.crackberry.com/blackb.../#post13238088

    The beta program demonstrated that most (or all) people who had EVER run an autoloader could not detect their SIM card after updating.
    Sorry for asking again, but does this apply if i used an universal autoloader before (no wipe), but installed the last OTA updates regulary on my Keyone? I also got them for my variant after they appear on https://tclota.birth-online.de/ (Right now on the latest build).

    never did one of the PRD change like in the beginning with the Updates app developer Options).

    Second:
    Would this still work, if i do the wipe with sugar after updating to Oreo and getting an sim error?
    bibbula likes this.
    07-18-18 12:10 PM
  11. chi-town311's Avatar
    Why don't they just fix the Oreo update so that it does work? They have identified an issue with the Beta, which was the purpose of the BEta. Why don't they fix the issue so the customers don't have to deal with it?


    If you have ever run an autoloader on your KEYᵒⁿᵉ, you will NOT be able to update to Oreo UNLESS you use Sugar to wipe and load your current/designated Nougat build BEFORE doing the OTA update.
    07-18-18 12:30 PM
  12. conite's Avatar
    Sorry for asking again, but does this apply if i used an universal autoloader before (no wipe), but installed the last OTA updates regulary on my Keyone? I also got them for my variant after they appear on https://tclota.birth-online.de/ (Right now on the latest build).

    never did one of the PRD change like in the beginning with the Updates app developer Options).

    Second:
    Would this still work, if i do the wipe with sugar after updating to Oreo and getting an sim error?
    1) unknown.

    2) Sugar should (?) be able to give you a clean install of Oreo if you are having problems.
    07-18-18 12:31 PM
  13. conite's Avatar
    Why don't they just fix the Oreo update so that it does work? They have identified an issue with the Beta, which was the purpose of the BEta. Why don't they fix the issue so the customers don't have to deal with it?
    They decided that it's not their problem since people went rogue at their own risk.
    07-18-18 12:32 PM
  14. itsyaboy's Avatar
    If you have ever run an autoloader on your KEYᵒⁿᵉ, you will NOT be able to update to Oreo UNLESS you use Sugar to wipe and load your current/designated Nougat build BEFORE doing the OTA update.

    Instructions can be found here:

    https://forums.crackberry.com/blackb.../#post13238088

    The beta program demonstrated that most (or all) people who had EVER run an autoloader could not detect their SIM card after updating.
    Yeah so this is why I never liked autoloaders. You just don't know what consequences might come from it.. although this sounds fixable.
    07-18-18 12:33 PM
  15. conite's Avatar
    Yeah so this is why I never liked autoloaders. You just don't know what consequences might come from it.. although this sounds fixable.
    Worst case - you do a wipe and clean install with Sugar. It's not THAT big a deal.
    Sarek1701 likes this.
    07-18-18 12:37 PM
  16. chi-town311's Avatar
    That's really pathetic. The only reason anyone would do an autoloader is because they can't roll out their promised updates in a reasonable fashion. Way to punish your users, BlackBerry.
    Fred Wu likes this.
    07-18-18 12:38 PM
  17. chi-town311's Avatar
    Worst case - you do a wipe and clean install with Sugar. It's not THAT big a deal.
    Want to swing by a set up my phone for me?
    07-18-18 12:38 PM
  18. chi-town311's Avatar
    If you have used an autoloader, what is the worst thing that can happen if you try updating without first using sugar?
    07-18-18 12:39 PM
  19. conite's Avatar
    If you have used an autoloader, what is the worst thing that can happen if you try updating without first using sugar?
    Can't connect to SIM card once updated to Oreo.

    Hopefully a Sugar reload to Oreo will work at that point - but I can't test/confirm that.
    07-18-18 12:43 PM
  20. IvanTheTolerable's Avatar
    I used autoloader on my keyone and upgraded to oreo with no Sim issues.
    deezy87 likes this.
    07-18-18 01:30 PM
  21. conite's Avatar
    I used autoloader on my keyone and upgraded to oreo with no Sim issues.
    We don't really know whether it was one autoloader in particular or many that caused the problem. Consider yourself lucky. The discussions behind the scene seem to indicate that it's quite pervasive.
    Sarek1701 likes this.
    07-18-18 01:33 PM
  22. IvanTheTolerable's Avatar
    We don't really know whether it was one autoloader in particular or many that caused the problem. Consider yourself lucky.
    Oh okay. To add information, I have used autoloaders every month since the December update. Last Ota was November
    07-18-18 01:34 PM
  23. conite's Avatar
    Oh okay. To add information, I have used autoloaders every month since the December update. Last Ota was November
    And you never did a wipe at any point during that time?
    07-18-18 01:35 PM
  24. IvanTheTolerable's Avatar
    And you never did a wipe since?
    Nope. Only ever no wipe method
    07-18-18 01:36 PM
  25. conite's Avatar
    Nope. Only ever no wipe method
    What carrier are you with?
    07-18-18 01:37 PM
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