Is the KEYone your last BlackBerry phone or is it just me?
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- No it is not just you. The Keyone was my last Blackberry as well. I made the switch a few months ago for the Pix 3a. The Keyone BE was a great device and pound for pound the best BlackBerry I have owned.11-10-19 12:11 AMLike 0
- Unless something changes, my AT&T KEYone and BE KEYone are my last two BlackBerry hardware. The changes would have to be that BB or BB licensed offered through AT&T or if factory unlocked would have to have AT&T WFC supported. At this point I’m using an XR with eSIM handling both my lines11-10-19 05:29 AMLike 0
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Yes, the KEYone will likely be my last BlackBerry phone, and, hopefully, my last Android phone. It's an interesting ecosystem, but with a handful of exceptions, I don't really need mobile apps to run my life or my businesses. I need a mobile device for email, calendar, contacts, and, of course, phone calls, but both Android and iOS are overkill for that. Pretty much everything else is better on my PC.
The obvious exception is GPS, which, together with the camera and email, is one of the big three "killer apps" of mobile. But the privacy issues related to using GPS services are more important, so I prefer to live as people have for most of modern history, with maps and a sense of direction.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.11-10-19 06:03 AMLike 0 - Nice I actually prefer the look and feel of the BE over the key2. It just feels more sturdier in the hand. I actually like the PKB better and the weight of the phone just feels like a workhorse11-10-19 11:21 AMLike 0
- Unless something changes, my AT&T KEYone and BE KEYone are my last two BlackBerry hardware. The changes would have to be that BB or BB licensed offered through AT&T or if factory unlocked would have to have AT&T WFC supported. At this point I’m using an XR with eSIM handling both my lines11-10-19 06:14 PMLike 0
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- It will likely be my last.
I think all the worry about transitioning to a vkb is way over blown. I would love another BlackBerry, but I think it will be ok to move on when the time comes.11-10-19 07:36 PMLike 0 - That’s what I said to AT&T rep and to my daughter last year as she was getting her XR for school reward. The nice rep explained I could, just not on a BlackBerry Mobile device. He explained that not all carrier hardware doesn’t support WFC, only the phones that AT&T wants to support and drive sales with. Primarily that’s flagship Android/iOS hardware and some mid-tier from the same OEMs in carrier promotions as well. Since AT&T was doing a BOGO, I got one free and several months later here we are.11-10-19 07:51 PMLike 0
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Then again, I will stick to PKB as long as possible - I simply love the haptics. And I don't see why I should force myself to change that only because damned Apple created an iPhone 12 years ago with it's only innovation being "pinch and zoom" , some sensors and a ridiculous price for a phone unable to do Copy&Paste11-11-19 01:45 AMLike 0 - Well, surely a transition to a VKB is doable and eventually you will be able to type as fast (or maybe even faster) on the PKB.
Then again, I will stick to PKB as long as possible - I simply love the haptics. And I don't see why I should force myself to change that only because damned Apple created an iPhone 12 years ago with it's only innovation being "pinch and zoom" , some sensors and a ridiculous price for a phone unable to do Copy&Paste
I prefer BBAndroid over BB10 and over Android itself. Even more importantly, PKB is my preferred form while the VKB is my delegated form.
Unfortunately the Android/iOS business models favor iOS for device longevity and support from a software perspective.11-11-19 06:23 AMLike 0 - Well, surely a transition to a VKB is doable and eventually you will be able to type as fast (or maybe even faster) on the PKB.
Then again, I will stick to PKB as long as possible - I simply love the haptics. And I don't see why I should force myself to change that only because damned Apple created an iPhone 12 years ago with it's only innovation being "pinch and zoom" , some sensors and a ridiculous price for a phone unable to do Copy&Paste11-11-19 06:42 AMLike 0 -
Then, when BlackBerry launched the Z10 in 2013, I switched and was fast and accurate on the BlackBerry VKB within a couple of days. It just seemed to adapt to my fingers with more accurate error correction better than the Apple VKB. When you add in the extremely accurate and fast flick to type, I am much faster on my BlackBerry VKB than on my BlackBerry PKB, albeit with a slight loss in accuracy.
If I could choose any keyboard, it would be my Bold's PKB on BBOS because the trackpad and keyboard shortcut combinations were so much faster and more accurate for editing. I have never had as good an experience editing on any of the BB10 VKBs or PKBs, and editing on Android is a crap experience, IMO (though iOS us still much worse).
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.11-11-19 08:34 AMLike 0 - I carried an iPhone as my only daily device for several months back in 2012, and I was never fast or accurate in the iOS keyboard, no matter how much I used it. I could certainly get by, but it was a step backward.
Then, when BlackBerry launched the Z10 in 2013, I switched and was fast and accurate on the BlackBerry VKB within a couple of days. It just seemed to adapt to my fingers with more accurate error correction better than the Apple VKB. When you add in the extremely accurate and fast flick to type, I am much faster on my BlackBerry VKB than on my BlackBerry PKB, albeit with a slight loss in accuracy.
If I could choose any keyboard, it would be my Bold's PKB on BBOS because the trackpad and keyboard shortcut combinations were so much faster and more accurate for editing. I have never had as good an experience editing on any of the BB10 VKBs or PKBs, and editing on Android is a crap experience, IMO (though iOS us still much worse).
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.11-11-19 09:05 AMLike 0 -
You see how I write. I'm constantly moving and cutting sentences and paragraphs, compressing and expanding ideas. My writing isn't nearly as concise or clear on BB10 as it was on BBOS because the editing is too finicky and imprecise. I could make very complex edits without thinking about it on BBOS.
Android is even worse for me.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.11-11-19 09:10 AMLike 0 -
I simply don't see why industry semms to pretend, VKB is the only reasonable way. Why do we still have physical keyboards connected to our desktops if VKB were the best thing possible?
I agree, screen real estate may be a valid point for some - but certainly not for all. IIRC, there are some iPhone screens not bigger or maybe even smaller than that of the KeyOne.11-11-19 09:11 AMLike 0 - I carried an iPhone as my only daily device for several months back in 2012, and I was never fast or accurate in the iOS keyboard, no matter how much I used it. I could certainly get by, but it was a step backward.
Then, when BlackBerry launched the Z10 in 2013, I switched and was fast and accurate on the BlackBerry VKB within a couple of days. It just seemed to adapt to my fingers with more accurate error correction better than the Apple VKB. When you add in the extremely accurate and fast flick to type, I am much faster on my BlackBerry VKB than on my BlackBerry PKB, albeit with a slight loss in accuracy.
If I could choose any keyboard, it would be my Bold's PKB on BBOS because the trackpad and keyboard shortcut combinations were so much faster and more accurate for editing. I have never had as good an experience editing on any of the BB10 VKBs or PKBs, and editing on Android is a crap experience, IMO (though iOS us still much worse).
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.11-11-19 09:24 AMLike 0 - I don't know about others complaining, but I did use VKB while my KeyOne was in for repair. And yes, I got along. And no, I won't stick to the KeyOne once it has clearly become outdated.
I simply don't see why industry semms to pretend, VKB is the only reasonable way. Why do we still have physical keyboards connected to our desktops if VKB were the best thing possible?
I agree, screen real estate may be a valid point for some - but certainly not for all. IIRC, there are some iPhone screens not bigger or maybe even smaller than that of the KeyOne.11-11-19 09:33 AMLike 0 -
I really don't like the iPhone experience for multitasking, or the locking strategies they use to keep me on their platform.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.11-11-19 10:10 AMLike 0 - I had preordered the KEY2 but after a month of release and still not having my phone I canceled. Still have my KEYone and use it occasionally but have moved on to other phones.
The KEY2's cameras being a downgrade from KEYone and no screen improvements were a big reason in me never picking one up down the line. Still hoping for a KEY3 but realize that's not too likely.11-11-19 11:16 AMLike 0 - Thanks. I have no interest in the iPhone. I own an iPad which I use for media. I don't think the new iOS or iPhone offer any improvement over BB10 for my needs.
I really don't like the iPhone experience for multitasking, or the locking strategies they use to keep me on their platform.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.11-11-19 01:24 PMLike 0 -
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.11-11-19 01:31 PMLike 0 -
- as long as BlackBerry devices are in the market and have a pkb this will not be my last BlackBerry phone.11-13-19 11:58 PMLike 0
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