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  1. bathu's Avatar
    How to make encrypted phone calls in keyone? Any application or services need to activate?
    11-23-17 10:14 PM
  2. conite's Avatar
    Signal.
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    11-23-17 10:29 PM
  3. silverbullet's Avatar
    Signal.
    Lol!!
    11-23-17 11:33 PM
  4. conite's Avatar
    Lol!!
    I meant the Signal app. Or Telegram.
    Last edited by conite; 11-24-17 at 12:14 AM.
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    11-23-17 11:54 PM
  5. bathu's Avatar
    can I make a calls to any numbers in signal app or its only can signal to signal?
    11-24-17 12:00 AM
  6. conite's Avatar
    can I make a calls to any numbers in signal app or its only can signal to signal?
    Encryption requires the involvement of both parties. Obviously making a call to a normal phone number wouldn't work.
    11-24-17 12:07 AM
  7. thurask's Avatar
    How to make encrypted phone calls in keyone? Any application or services need to activate?
    Get an encrypted voice chat app, like Signal or Telegram. Or conduct all your regular voice calls in some sort of code.
    11-24-17 12:12 AM
  8. conite's Avatar
    Get an encrypted voice chat app, like Signal or Telegram. Or conduct all your regular voice calls in some sort of code.
    ats-Thay eat-gray advice-way.
    11-24-17 12:16 AM
  9. bathu's Avatar
    Get an encrypted voice chat app, like Signal or Telegram. Or conduct all your regular voice calls in some sort of code.
    Some sort of code what?
    11-24-17 12:39 AM
  10. thurask's Avatar
    Some sort of code what?
    That was a joke.
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    11-24-17 12:53 AM
  11. bathu's Avatar
    That was a joke.
    😬😠
    11-24-17 02:55 AM
  12. Resilience's Avatar
    telegram is not secure, use signal or wire.
    11-24-17 03:02 AM
  13. darkbull's Avatar
    telegram is not secure, use signal or wire.
    Why do you think Signal is more secure than Telegram ?
    11-24-17 03:49 AM
  14. Resilience's Avatar
    Why do you think Signal is more secure than Telegram ?
    Not encrypted by default , they reinvented the wheel by rolling their own crypto that does not make any sense, not fully open source, non encrypted chats are stored in plain text . List goes on and on for telegram.
    11-24-17 12:16 PM
  15. pgauci's Avatar
    I meant the Signal app. Or Telegram.
    What about BBM?

    Posted via CB10
    11-24-17 12:24 PM
  16. conite's Avatar
    What about BBM?

    Posted via CB10
    It's not encrypted.
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    11-24-17 12:25 PM
  17. pgauci's Avatar
    It's not encrypted.
    Good to know; thank you. Question: what makes BBM secure then?

    Posted via CB10
    11-24-17 12:33 PM
  18. conite's Avatar
    Good to know; thank you. Question: what makes BBM secure then?

    Posted via CB10
    Nothing.

    Unless you have a BBM Enterprise (Protected) subscription, you have zero end-to-end encryption.
    11-24-17 02:31 PM
  19. johnb_xp's Avatar
    Kontalk Messenger sends encrypted messages for free, but no calls. You can send voice recordings.
    11-24-17 03:08 PM
  20. FuzzyManas's Avatar
    Threema works great for full encrypted messages and calls
    11-24-17 03:18 PM
  21. chetmanley's Avatar
    +1 for Threema

    Requires no account setup, no phone numbers, no email address or names. One time purchase. No advertising, no analytics.

    Signal requires GCM and a phone number, Threema can be run without any dependency on GCM using polling.

    Signal also needs access to your contacts and uploads them regularly. Threema has zero need to access contacts.
    11-24-17 09:36 PM
  22. silverbullet's Avatar
    +1 for Threema

    Requires no account setup, no phone numbers, no email address or names. One time purchase. No advertising, no analytics.

    Signal requires GCM and a phone number, Threema can be run without any dependency on GCM using polling.

    Signal also needs access to your contacts and uploads them regularly. Threema has zero need to access contacts.
    What is GCM? Do you mean GSM?
    11-24-17 10:47 PM
  23. sebstarr's Avatar
    Signal does not upload contacts that are stored or visible in anyway as far as I know.
    11-24-17 10:59 PM
  24. Resilience's Avatar
    +1 for Threema

    Requires no account setup, no phone numbers, no email address or names. One time purchase. No advertising, no analytics.

    Signal requires GCM and a phone number, Threema can be run without any dependency on GCM using polling.

    Signal also needs access to your contacts and uploads them regularly. Threema has zero need to access contacts.
    It does not need gcm, there is apk for that or the fork called Noise.

    Threema is not open sourced either.
    11-24-17 11:59 PM
  25. chetmanley's Avatar
    What is GCM? Do you mean GSM?
    Google Cloud Messaging


    Signal does not upload contacts that are stored or visible in anyway as far as I know.
    Some say its possible to reverse the hash'd numbers if someone got access to the server. But I just found this which is promising:
    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/0...m_spying_eyes/

    It does not need gcm, there is apk for that or the fork called Noise.

    Threema is not open sourced either.
    I'll take a look at Noise. Does it work with standard signal users or only other noise users?

    True, Threema isn't open source. They have released 3rd party security audits which claim to verify the implementation of their cryptography.

    Others have dug into the APK itself to learn more about what is being sent back to threema. The app only communicates with 3 servers, each with its own purpose. All three are in switzerland - ie they aren't some cloud amazon server etc. They also showed what sort of data is being included in each communication with those servers.

    https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-8062-a_l...ging_black_box

    Edit: Skip to Min 32 to get to threema discussion. First 32 mins is a discussion on crypto messaging itself.
    Last edited by chetmanley; 11-25-17 at 09:27 AM.
    11-25-17 08:37 AM
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