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- Chinese variant, device build date June 16th 2019; I guess they are still produced, just not for the west....
https://www.reddit.com/r/black...m=a...m_source=share07-11-19 06:21 PMLike 3 - 07-14-19 11:28 AMLike 0
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- I have been listening BB is dead since late 2000, it is part of the phones and OS's war. All BB hardware and software products have been always superior and thinking in a target market, it is like comparing Bentley and Hyundai. So I don't worry anymore every time I hear something "new" about that.07-14-19 12:36 PMLike 0
- Yesterday, German Tech Portal teltarif.de speculated about an upcoming end of BBMo. Their source is a post by the forum administrator of the German Portal blackberrybase.net (https://www.blackberrybase.net/showt...te-Versprechen!!!). Said admin states that according to his sources (which in the past had been rather reliable, as he claims) almost all former German BlackBerry Staff is going to be laid off soon - same obviously applies for employees in other countries. Furthermore he states that the April 2019 patch was the last for Keyone and that Key2 will not be getting Pie (but security Patches til June 2020 and August 2020 for the Key2LE). Only positive news from this source is that obviously the rumored Key3 is in the making.
BBMo have staff in Germany and other countries?? They should be laid off, they do nothing to justify their existence in any means. None BlackBerry device was found in physical EU region stores, shame on you.07-14-19 06:15 PMLike 0 -
Instead, estimate are made of how many devices of each sub-model are likely to be needed to fulfill sales for a given amount of time, which in this case is probably the expected sales life of the product (about 1 year). Then, the production lines are tooled up, tested, adjusted, etc. which takes a week or two, and then actual production manufacturing takes place, producing the entire order at once. For a device like the K2, which will likely sell about 500k devices across all submodels, the total manufacturing production can be completed in 6-8 weeks.
But these devices aren't all immediately flashed and packaged - they're stored in bulk storage boxes and warehoused except for the amount of the initial distributor orders. Those devices are flashed and boxed and shipped out. When they've sold through, and a distributor re-orders, inventory is pulled out of bulk storage, flashed with the latest image for the destination country(s), packaged in the latest packaging with the latest inserts for that country/company, and shipped out.
A percentage of the production is also held back for spare parts. This includes motherboards, screens, keyboards, etc. A generous number of these need to be held back in case there is a serious problem that requires a lot of exchanges - a manufacturer is legally required to be able to supply those parts for a period of time. Once that time period has passed, the inventory of spare parts can be reduced, and those parts can be used to build phones. Perhaps in a new and crimson colored-case, or an edition with silver accents.
In any case, the manufacturer isn't going to take a production line off-line, retool it, readjust and calibrate it, retrain all the workers, etc. to make 5000 more devices - a line that could be making 20,000 phones per day. That would be like hiring a limousine to drive you down the street for a Slurpee - way too expensive. Such low volumes are likely assembled manually.
Manufacturing production lines need to be working all the time or they're too expensive to house and maintain, not to mention the workers who operate them. TCL isn't going to pay workers to stand around for months at a time in the off-chance that a few people want to buy a K2 a year after it was released - they've got them busy making other products, either for themselves or as subcontractors for some other company.
Again, I have no direct, concrete proof of this, but I've spent a good deal of time around manufacturing plants of various types (often installing security cameras in them) and I've also done LOTS of reading about smartphones, including minutia that most people wouldn't care about, and what I wrote would be the norm for phones that weren't iPhone/Galaxy-popular (i.e., that didn't sell in enough volume to justify many production runs). Things are very different when you are selling 20m of a given model per year, vs. half a million.07-14-19 07:26 PMLike 3 - As I've pointed out a few times, I'm pretty certain that the date shown is the date the phone was flashed at the factory and packaged up for sale, NOT the date the hardware came off the production line. Of course, I can't prove this as my invitation to tour the TCL production facilities must have gotten lost in the mail, but low-volume manufacturing almost never works that way.
Instead, estimate are made of how many devices of each sub-model are likely to be needed to fulfill sales for a given amount of time, which in this case is probably the expected sales life of the product (about 1 year). Then, the production lines are tooled up, tested, adjusted, etc. which takes a week or two, and then actual production manufacturing takes place, producing the entire order at once. For a device like the K2, which will likely sell about 500k devices across all submodels, the total manufacturing production can be completed in 6-8 weeks.
But these devices aren't all immediately flashed and packaged - they're stored in bulk storage boxes and warehoused except for the amount of the initial distributor orders. Those devices are flashed and boxed and shipped out. When they've sold through, and a distributor re-orders, inventory is pulled out of bulk storage, flashed with the latest image for the destination country(s), packaged in the latest packaging with the latest inserts for that country/company, and shipped out.
A percentage of the production is also held back for spare parts. This includes motherboards, screens, keyboards, etc. A generous number of these need to be held back in case there is a serious problem that requires a lot of exchanges - a manufacturer is legally required to be able to supply those parts for a period of time. Once that time period has passed, the inventory of spare parts can be reduced, and those parts can be used to build phones. Perhaps in a new and crimson colored-case, or an edition with silver accents.
In any case, the manufacturer isn't going to take a production line off-line, retool it, readjust and calibrate it, retrain all the workers, etc. to make 5000 more devices - a line that could be making 20,000 phones per day. That would be like hiring a limousine to drive you down the street for a Slurpee - way too expensive. Such low volumes are likely assembled manually.
Manufacturing production lines need to be working all the time or they're too expensive to house and maintain, not to mention the workers who operate them. TCL isn't going to pay workers to stand around for months at a time in the off-chance that a few people want to buy a K2 a year after it was released - they've got them busy making other products, either for themselves or as subcontractors for some other company.
Again, I have no direct, concrete proof of this, but I've spent a good deal of time around manufacturing plants of various types (often installing security cameras in them) and I've also done LOTS of reading about smartphones, including minutia that most people wouldn't care about, and what I wrote would be the norm for phones that weren't iPhone/Galaxy-popular (i.e., that didn't sell in enough volume to justify many production runs). Things are very different when you are selling 20m of a given model per year, vs. half a million.
BlackBerry has also explicitly stated that the software is not flashed after-the-fact, but right on the main assembly line.07-14-19 08:07 PMLike 2 - Which is why the MMI test was so accurate for Silver KEYone's when people wanted to find out if they had early batch units or later ones with added adhesive.07-14-19 08:28 PMLike 0
- I don't know where you live but at least in huge consumer electronics in Germany, the BlackBerry devices have been and still are being displayed.07-16-19 01:01 AMLike 4
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- Just got back from Japan and the Key2 had a decently prominent end cap display at Bic in Kyoto (near train station). However, they had zero in stock.07-16-19 03:55 PMLike 0
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