- Thank you to the many participants in the thread who have taken the opportunity to display exactly how to derail a thread -- bickering, sniping, and making personal comments about others, instead of civil discussion and debate. Your comments have been duly noted and deleted.
To the few who maintained their cool and politely disagreed with or questioned others -- Thank you!
I'm reopening this, with notice that the schoolyard behaviour and sarcastic comments will not be tolerated. If you can't disagree while remaining with the Community Rules and Guidelines, then move on to a less challenging thread.Thud Hardsmack and JWW like this.07-06-17 09:49 PMLike 2 - To Mercuryone
You were one of the fortunate ones to have a good experience with your phone. But the fact still remains, It's not about me casting negativity this product. No one can deny that this phone has upset a lot of people due to poor build quality. These are the facts. Again, this can be a better phone. That's all I'm trying to say.
Posted via CB10Barbareren and Livermore like this.07-06-17 10:44 PMLike 2 - no issues with my keyone since it came out.. phone is solid, no lag ..zero issuesBarbareren and Livermore like this.07-06-17 11:04 PMLike 2
- It is what it is and people have their opinions! Yes, TCL could have gone full tilt but I understand the catiousness! It's TCL's 1st rendition of a keyboard device's! Overall I love my K1, and it serving it's usefulness and purpose for me! I simply love it and can't wait for further generations of BB/TCL kb devices!!!Barbareren likes this.07-07-17 12:27 AMLike 1
- *Sigh* You guys are taking this way too personal. As with any product I want to buy, I do the following before purchase:
1. Read what the product is designed to do.
The Blackberry Keyone does what it is designed to do. Its primary focus is for the business user. I am such a user. This is why I own several Blackberry products and they do suit my needs. I wanted to add the Keyone to my arsenal.
2. Reviews
I watch every YouTube video review I can on the product. I read forums. I read other people's take on the product good or bad. This is called researching a product. Since there is no demo available to test it, I have to use what is readily available to me. I believe this to be a good source of information...people who actually have the product and sharing their experiences. Good or bad. I have to take it all into account.
3. Perception
A lot of you have stated that you have no problems whatsoever with this phone. That is great. Does this mean I simply ignore the remaining people who actually have an issue with this phone? Let me break it down like this...
Performance - this is a perception. Some people don't have a problem with it, some do.
Screen not bright enough - Again, this is a perception. To some people, screen brightness is fine. To others, not so much.
Speaker not loud enough - See above
Multiple reports of screens popping out of phones with little or no effort? I'm simply pointing out the obvious. This is not a perception. This is a design flaw. For this reason, I'm waiting it out meaning I just want a better built product for me to buy with my money. What's is wrong with stating this? It's really that simple. I'm not trying to spend money on a phone with the hope that I'm one of the fortunate ones. These problems exist people. And it should be addressed. Take this anyway you want but this is a forum and I have a concern. I'm posting my concern.Barbareren likes this.07-07-17 01:26 AMLike 1 - So just as someone who does have a problem doesn't make it true for everyone else or an actual issue with the phone. Kind of goes both ways.Barbareren likes this.07-07-17 01:31 AMLike 1
- The PRIV is still doing it for me everyday. Slider function is awesome the price isn't a problem anymore at 279 and the battery isn't an issue for me I average 15 hours before I need to hook it up to a charger then the 2.0 quick charge has enough to get me the rest of the day in no time. If I could get rid of snapchat this phone would last me a full day no problems.07-07-17 04:46 AMLike 0
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In my opinion this is the first Blackberry that can go toe to toe with the big guys. Don't get me wrong, I might prefer the Passport but it was missing apps and the camera was good but not nearly as good as the other phones out at the time - the Keyone can get shots as good as the S8, G6, Pixel and Iphone...at least in good lighting. There is no app gap here. So anyway I feel that the OP is probably half correct...there has been some issues with the launch at a time when Blackberry really can't afford problems anymore... but for many of us it's been glorious!Barbareren likes this.07-07-17 05:09 AMLike 1 - Op, although I do not agree totally your assessment of K1, I would apprecite your sensitivity and correctness for BB products: Playbook, Priv, dteks are less genuine BB (I call them BB flavour) products compare to the PP. I gave you high five for that. Enjoy K1 while you can-the ture BB design with half baked MFG. Reception problem might due to the missing of para and APN (decouple from carrier comes with price-trade offs from paying them). As for the rest, it out of BB hands and into BBM hands. I, personally, like it (not love it... but like it very much for its functionality... although I don't own it - brought one and gave it to my relative... she need more than I do... still using z30 wifi only... I am going for the genuine hardware/software integration... i might change my mind later for K1..).07-07-17 08:01 AMLike 0
- Nice post and from someone who was thinking of buying a keyone the negativy help in my decision not to purchase one. Phones are too expensive to get something that doesn't do the job or has early defects this is why the forms are great. I am sure BlackBerry will correct all the problems but until then I will hold off.07-07-17 08:02 AMLike 0
- I am not a fan of the launch itself at all. Delays and so little / such poor stock management that it is likely never to truly be in stock are major faults.
However, the premise about the phone itself being terrible is all wrong. I especially suspect a different perspective among people who have actually used it (excellent build, keyboard, performance, battery, productivity), with the exception of those few who had a defective unit (screen separation).JWW and Barbareren like this.07-07-17 10:06 AMLike 2 - Everything about the launch was a failure and damaged the BlackBerry brand. The device itself is great, and the interest around it is absolutely there, but if people can't get ahold of it, it doesn't matter.07-07-17 10:32 AMLike 2
- The KEYone does not cost as much as the iPhone or Samsung S8 and the build quality reflects that. Nonetheless, I prefer the appearance and the functionality of the KEYone--i love a physical keyboard. However, the one major flaw for me is the camera. As a long time BlackBerry user who was hoping BlackBerry Mobile would take the opportunity to give us a great camera, I was disappointed. As a person who needs to photograph documents as well as type them with my phone, I am now carrying a Samsung S8 as my daily driver, rather than my KEYone, and suffering with a VKB rather than being able to use the PKB I would prefer to use.07-07-17 10:46 AMLike 0
- The KEYone does not cost as much as the iPhone or Samsung S8 and the build quality reflects that. Nonetheless, I prefer the appearance and the functionality of the KEYone--i love a physical keyboard. However, the one major flaw for me is the camera. As a long time BlackBerry user who was hoping BlackBerry Mobile would take the opportunity to give us a great camera, I was disappointed. As a person who needs to photograph documents as well as type them with my phone, I am now carrying a Samsung S8 as my daily driver, rather than my KEYone, and suffering with a VKB rather than being able to use the PKB I would prefer to use.JWW and Barbareren like this.07-07-17 10:55 AMLike 2
- That's what I thought. When you get one and experience the issue, then talk. I am sure the problem exists but you are preaching it like you own one. I have a Passport (own one) and don't have the dozen or so issues that many people on this forum has reported. If I just based all my facts on what I read in the forums, I probably believe that ALL phones have big problems which definitely is not the case.07-07-17 11:12 AMLike 4
- What? The camera is top notch. May not be the best but it sure is up there with some of the best in the market. What exactly are you trying to do with it and how? Did you have it set on manual or something? This doesn't make sense that its not even worthy of taking a picture of a document. Something doesn't add up.07-07-17 11:16 AMLike 0
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- Nice post and from someone who was thinking of buying a keyone the negativy help in my decision not to purchase one. Phones are too expensive to get something that doesn't do the job or has early defects this is why the forms are great. I am sure BlackBerry will correct all the problems but until then I will hold off.Barbareren likes this.07-07-17 11:32 AMLike 1
- Some of you have said that unless I buy the phone and use it, then I have really no credibility in posting an opinion about the phone.
Some of you have said that there are a lot of good working phones with no issues. As I stated many of times before, that is good news for you.
Some of you are saying that any phone basically can have issues. This is true.
Some of you have focused on my comment about performance, screen, sound, etc. As I later stated in one of my comments, this is perception. It is good for some and not so good with others.
But a lot of you seem to keep skirting around the big elephant in the room. The design flaw. Some of you will continue to defend this phone until death do you part. Again, I'm happy for you and I mean that sincerely. No one is debating this with you. Keep in mind that my beef is not with you, so stop taking it as such. My beef is with TCL/BB. Do you work for them? Are you the CEO? Did you build this phone yourself? I'm guessing no. I just want TCL/BB to correct a wrong so I CAN buy this phone and not feel like I'm taking a gamble on a good or bad phone.
With all of that said, here are 60 reasons why I will NOT buy this phone until TCL/BB fixes it:
Blackberry Screen Lift Issues
REPORTED SCREEN LIFTS ISSUES WITH PHOTOS- 26-05-17 - @The_Q https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12889883
- 30-05-17 - @Noodles900 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12895101
- 09-06-17 - @takeo https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12914610
- 17-06-17 - Display Phone CPW https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12926519
- 17-06-17 - Display Phone Vodafone https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12926519
- 18-06-17 - @destiny.seeker https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12940866
- 14-06-17 - @senortabasco https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12922210
- 15-06-17 - @Obster https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12924317
- 19-06-17 - @jamielall https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12929869
- 22-06-17 - @hjc73734 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12935089
- 02-06-17 - @daytrade https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12901452
- 28-06-17 - @uazwildcat https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12941977
- 01-07-17 - @Obermuckel https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12946533
- 03-07-17 - @scott8629 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12947594
- 29-06-17 - @RezzaBuh https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12943436
- 02-07-17 - @herr_tan https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12947609
- 12-06-17 - @FishhPoohh https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12918614
- 15-06-17 - @giantrobo https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12924549
- 03-07-17 - @Cupillac – His Father https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12926536
- 17-06-17 - @dicky snapples https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12926895
- 04-07-17 - @jagrlover https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12949501
- 24-06-17 - Mistah J (Twitter) https://twitter.com/mr_javilen/statu...59276125618176
- 15-06-17 - @Christopher Ortiz https://twitter.com/chrisortizATX/st...81383950196737
- 26-06-17 - @Julian Finn https://twitter.com/EmolumentJules/s...98692414824448
- 20-06-17 - @erin Lawrence https://erinlyyc.com/2017/06/20/blac...tphone-review/
- 5-7-17 - @step07 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12950384
- 7-7-17 - @zambanini https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12952138
- 7-7-17 - @OnMedic2000 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12952644
- 05-06-17 - @rashy https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12905924
- 05-06-17 - @Jackson15 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12906369
- 15-06-17 - @Oiche-Shamhna https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12923711
- 24-06-17 - @Sharkfinger https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12938139
- 25-06-17 - @pajd100 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12938598
- 28-06-17 - @hoytbowhunter https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12942273
- 18-06-17 - @mmeiners https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12928356
- 19-06-17 - @gmvincent https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12929642
- 21-06-17 - @kris3kgt https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12932638
- 19-06-17 - @flip68 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12929854
- 02-06-17 - @hnguyen https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12901479
- 02-06-17 - @Witmen https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12902416
- 04-06-17 - @Eychei https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12904711
- 11-06-17 - @lee-pa https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12917255
- 21-06-17 - @[email protected] https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12933087
- 22-06-17 - @steve er https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12935145
- 23-06-17 - @Matthew Davis7 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12935824
- 26-06-17 - @Fighting_Falcon https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12940334
- 28-06-17 - @galifreiankid - 2 Cases reported in single post https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12941848
- 28-06-17 - @hoytbowhunter - 4 Cases reported in single post https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12942240
- 29-06-17 - @smertz https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12943973
- 24-06-17 - @Dante Ventu https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12938044
- 27-06-17 - @CrackBerry Question (Unregistered) https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12941631
- 28-06-17 - @DecAway https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12942162
- 30-06-17 - @Backprop https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12944836
- 30-06-17 - @HGBINDC https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12945373
- 18-06-17 - @Sean French https://twitter.com/SeanFrench1/stat...33005002592257
- 17-06-17 - @MICHAEl Gendron https://twitter.com/michaelgendron/s...31922602229760
- 03-07-17 - @SeanZZ https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12948463
- 27-06-17 - @Cupillac – His Brother https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12940448
- 04-07-17 - @4everForever https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12949619
- 04-07-17 - @Sohan Tanna https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12949663
- 04-07-17 - @DocGo https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12950019
- 05-07-17 - @scada.shawn https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12950028
- 05-07-17 - @Manu Sekhri1 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12950605
- 06-07-17 - @prowlers https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12951047
- 06-07-17 - @ProjectBrett https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12951041
- 06-07-17 - @Gonza38 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12951917
- 06-07-17 - @eventfulsean https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12951223
- 07-07-17 - @SK122387 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12952239
- 07-07-17 - @junny89 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12952544
Now. I think I've made myself very clear now.anon(10123624) likes this.07-07-17 12:25 PMLike 1 - Stop Spamming by mentioning all those users! Someone should delete this thread!Barbareren likes this.07-07-17 12:45 PMLike 1
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- 07-07-17 01:37 PMLike 3
- Some of you have said that unless I buy the phone and use it, then I have really no credibility in posting an opinion about the phone.
Some of you have said that there are a lot of good working phones with no issues. As I stated many of times before, that is good news for you.
Some of you are saying that any phone basically can have issues. This is true.
Some of you have focused on my comment about performance, screen, sound, etc. As I later stated in one of my comments, this is perception. It is good for some and not so good with others.
But a lot of you seem to keep skirting around the big elephant in the room. The design flaw. Some of you will continue to defend this phone until death do you part. Again, I'm happy for you and I mean that sincerely. No one is debating this with you. Keep in mind that my beef is not with you, so stop taking it as such. My beef is with TCL/BB. Do you work for them? Are you the CEO? Did you build this phone yourself? I'm guessing no. I just want TCL/BB to correct a wrong so I CAN buy this phone and not feel like I'm taking a gamble on a good or bad phone.
With all of that said, here are 60 reasons why I will NOT buy this phone until TCL/BB fixes it:
Blackberry Screen Lift Issues
REPORTED SCREEN LIFTS ISSUES WITH PHOTOS- 26-05-17 - @The_Q https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12889883
- 30-05-17 - @Noodles900 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12895101
- 09-06-17 - @takeo https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12914610
- 17-06-17 - Display Phone CPW https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12926519
- 17-06-17 - Display Phone Vodafone https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12926519
- 18-06-17 - @destiny.seeker https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12940866
- 14-06-17 - @senortabasco https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12922210
- 15-06-17 - @Obster https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12924317
- 19-06-17 - @jamielall https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12929869
- 22-06-17 - @hjc73734 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12935089
- 02-06-17 - @daytrade https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12901452
- 28-06-17 - @uazwildcat https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12941977
- 01-07-17 - @Obermuckel https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12946533
- 03-07-17 - @scott8629 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12947594
- 29-06-17 - @RezzaBuh https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12943436
- 02-07-17 - @herr_tan https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12947609
- 12-06-17 - @FishhPoohh https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12918614
- 15-06-17 - @giantrobo https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12924549
- 03-07-17 - @Cupillac – His Father https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12926536
- 17-06-17 - @dicky snapples https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12926895
- 04-07-17 - @jagrlover https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12949501
- 24-06-17 - Mistah J (Twitter) https://twitter.com/mr_javilen/statu...59276125618176
- 15-06-17 - @Christopher Ortiz https://twitter.com/chrisortizATX/st...81383950196737
- 26-06-17 - @Julian Finn https://twitter.com/EmolumentJules/s...98692414824448
- 20-06-17 - @erin Lawrence https://erinlyyc.com/2017/06/20/blac...tphone-review/
- 5-7-17 - @step07 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12950384
- 7-7-17 - @zambanini https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12952138
- 7-7-17 - @OnMedic2000 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12952644
- 05-06-17 - @rashy https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12905924
- 05-06-17 - @Jackson15 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12906369
- 15-06-17 - @Oiche-Shamhna https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12923711
- 24-06-17 - @Sharkfinger https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12938139
- 25-06-17 - @pajd100 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12938598
- 28-06-17 - @hoytbowhunter https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12942273
- 18-06-17 - @mmeiners https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12928356
- 19-06-17 - @gmvincent https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12929642
- 21-06-17 - @kris3kgt https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12932638
- 19-06-17 - @flip68 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12929854
- 02-06-17 - @hnguyen https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12901479
- 02-06-17 - @Witmen https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12902416
- 04-06-17 - @Eychei https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12904711
- 11-06-17 - @lee-pa https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12917255
- 21-06-17 - @[email protected] https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12933087
- 22-06-17 - @steve er https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12935145
- 23-06-17 - @Matthew Davis7 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12935824
- 26-06-17 - @Fighting_Falcon https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12940334
- 28-06-17 - @galifreiankid - 2 Cases reported in single post https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12941848
- 28-06-17 - @hoytbowhunter - 4 Cases reported in single post https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12942240
- 29-06-17 - @smertz https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12943973
- 24-06-17 - @Dante Ventu https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12938044
- 27-06-17 - @CrackBerry Question (Unregistered) https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12941631
- 28-06-17 - @DecAway https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12942162
- 30-06-17 - @Backprop https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12944836
- 30-06-17 - @HGBINDC https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12945373
- 18-06-17 - @Sean French https://twitter.com/SeanFrench1/stat...33005002592257
- 17-06-17 - @MICHAEl Gendron https://twitter.com/michaelgendron/s...31922602229760
- 03-07-17 - @SeanZZ https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12948463
- 27-06-17 - @Cupillac – His Brother https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12940448
- 04-07-17 - @4everForever https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12949619
- 04-07-17 - @Sohan Tanna https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12949663
- 04-07-17 - @DocGo https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12950019
- 05-07-17 - @scada.shawn https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12950028
- 05-07-17 - @Manu Sekhri1 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12950605
- 06-07-17 - @prowlers https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12951047
- 06-07-17 - @ProjectBrett https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12951041
- 06-07-17 - @Gonza38 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12951917
- 06-07-17 - @eventfulsean https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12951223
- 07-07-17 - @SK122387 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12952239
- 07-07-17 - @junny89 https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post12952544
OMG you went total HAM lolll
But thanks for compiling that
Posted via CB1007-07-17 01:39 PMLike 0 - all this for a phone lol what is this world coming into.. I hate iPhones so I don't buy it , as simple as that... u don't own a K1 it's kinda hard to judge the phone,, some people might say that there's a lot of complains about the phone but there's also a lot of us here that the phone is great... move on if u don't want K1 end of storyrx8er likes this.07-07-17 01:49 PMLike 1
- That's what I thought. When you get one and experience the issue, then talk. I am sure the problem exists but you are preaching it like you own one. I have a Passport (own one) and don't have the dozen or so issues that many people on this forum has reported. If I just based all my facts on what I read in the forums, I probably believe that ALL phones have big problems which definitely is not the case.
If you want a balanced opinion about a device, read real consumer and professional reviews _not_ forums like this one!rx8er likes this.07-07-17 01:52 PMLike 1
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Re: why can;t i type first 3 letters of a contact to pull up on the phone app of my Priv?
By victorHTexas in forum Ask a QuestionReplies: 1Last Post: 07-07-17, 08:28 AM -
Twice my PassPort malfunctioned
By chesbeau in forum BlackBerry PassportReplies: 7Last Post: 07-06-17, 12:52 PM -
How to backup my screenshots from the Notable app to my pc?
By Fes1988 in forum BlackBerry KEYoneReplies: 4Last Post: 07-06-17, 08:11 AM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD