- I'm trying to understand this thread....
Does this mean only the UK have been selling Keyone's and the USA have still not received stock.
So the only people outside the UK that have them are people who've had them shipped from the UK?06-05-17 04:28 AMLike 0 -
Something caused BlackBerry Mobile to pull the plug on the May 31 launch of the CDMA version at the last minute, and nobody knows why.06-05-17 06:10 AMLike 0 - Wow...that is about the craziest thing I have heard in a long time. I have seen nothing from VZW that indicates that it cares about blackberry phones in years. When I went to buy my Priv a year ago in a VZW store, the sales person asked why and tried to sell me a Samsung or iPhone.06-05-17 08:22 AMLike 0
- Wow...that is about the craziest thing I have heard in a long time. I have seen nothing from VZW that indicates that it cares about blackberry phones in years. When I went to buy my Priv a year ago in a VZW store, the sales person asked why and tried to sell me a Samsung or iPhone.
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06-05-17 08:24 AMLike 0 - There are people in these forums with a consumer mentality, and all they want to do is calls things great and terrible and praise and blame people and companies.
And there are people in these forums who look at things from a business perspective and who are interested in the actual facts and decisions taken by the managers of the same companies.
Both are valuable perspectives, but some posters confuse the two perspectives and see an argument where none exists.
Fact: No CDMA at launch, which was contrary to the press release, creating disappointment and confusion among fans, with no explanation from BlackBerry Mobile.
Opinion: The shortage was due to lying/incompetence/manufacturing problems/shipping and distribution/ last minute deals with Verizon and/or Sprint/etc.
Posted with my trusty Z1006-05-17 08:44 AMLike 2 - There are people in these forums with a consumer mentality, and all they want to do is calls things great and terrible and praise and blame people and companies.
And there are people in these forums who look at things from a business perspective and who are interested in the actual facts and decisions taken by the managers of the same companies.
Both are valuable perspectives, but some posters confuse the two perspectives and see an argument where none exists.
Fact: No CDMA at launch, which was contrary to the press release, creating disappointment and confusion among fans, with no explanation from BlackBerry Mobile.
Opinion: The shortage was due to lying/incompetence/manufacturing problems/shipping and distribution/ last minute deals with Verizon and/or Sprint/etc.
Posted with my trusty Z1006-05-17 12:27 PMLike 0 -
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Posted with my trusty Z10BigBadWulf likes this.06-05-17 01:40 PMLike 1 - There are people in these forums with a consumer mentality, and all they want to do is calls things great and terrible and praise and blame people and companies.
And there are people in these forums who look at things from a business perspective and who are interested in the actual facts and decisions taken by the managers of the same companies.
Both are valuable perspectives, but some posters confuse the two perspectives and see an argument where none exists.
Fact: No CDMA at launch, which was contrary to the press release, creating disappointment and confusion among fans, with no explanation from BlackBerry Mobile.
Opinion: The shortage was due to lying/incompetence/manufacturing problems/shipping and distribution/ last minute deals with Verizon and/or Sprint/etc.
Posted with my trusty Z1006-05-17 01:45 PMLike 0 -
Posted with my trusty Z1006-05-17 01:59 PMLike 0 - Steve Cistulli should be fired. He posted on twitter that both GSM and CDMA would be available on 5/31. Only GSM was available. The reason Best Buy only carried GSM is CDMA wasn't available and they didn't want to lie and say you could get it at retail stores. So CDMA was put on-sale at amazon as an order taker only. So yes Steve Cistulli should be fired!06-05-17 06:59 PMLike 0
- Steve Cistulli should be fired. He posted on twitter that both GSM and CDMA would be available on 5/31. Only GSM was available. The reason Best Buy only carried GSM is CDMA wasn't available and they didn't want to lie and say you could get it at retail stores. So CDMA was put on-sale at amazon as an order taker only. So yes Steve Cistulli should be fired!
Posted with my trusty Z1006-06-17 08:14 AMLike 0 -
All joking aside. I always thought CDMA phones (except for iPhone) were only sold through carrier, like the Classic or the PRIV. I understood this was because Verizon or Sprint had to approve or whitelist devices onto their network. I also understood this was because Verizon and Sprint CDMA bands are different so OEM'S manufactured CDMA devices just for carrier orders. Have things really changed or did I misunderstand?
Posted via CB1006-06-17 08:30 AMLike 0 -
https://crackberry.com/blackberry-ke...x4llH2DWZvz.97mister2d likes this.06-06-17 08:34 AMLike 1 - Hey Conite,
All joking aside. I always thought CDMA phones (except for iPhone) were only sold through carrier, like the Classic or the PRIV. I understood this was because Verizon or Sprint had to approve or whitelist devices onto their network. I also understood this was because Verizon and Sprint CDMA bands are different so OEM'S manufactured CDMA devices just for carrier orders. Have things really changed or did I misunderstand?
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In any event, Verizon has always kept tight control of the phones on its network, and could theoretically block any device or group of devices they wish.
The direct selling of CDMA phones in the US market would invariably involve a discussion between Verizon and BlackBerry Mobile, with the former pulling most of the weight.06-06-17 08:37 AMLike 0 - Didn't I respond to you in another thread with the press release that was posted on the front page of CB where Steve specifically said this? Its pretty common knowledge that he stated (on May 30) that it would be available on the 31st. Not sure why you are in denial about it. But in case you missed it. Here it is again:
https://crackberry.com/blackberry-ke...x4llH2DWZvz.97
Why does that matter? Because there is a difference between a PR screw up with inaccurate information and the President and GM lying.
It appears to me that the Press Release included a fairly generic quote from Cistulli AND misinformation about the CDMA version of the KEYone.
The CDMA miscommunication is still a very significant screw up, but I see absolutely zero evidence of an intentional deception by Steve Cistulli.
Seriously what motive could he possible have to do that, anyway?
Posted with my trusty Z1006-06-17 10:24 AMLike 0 - Just to be clear, the press release says the CDMA version will be available. Steve Cistulli never said that.
Why does that matter? Because there is a difference between a PR screw up with inaccurate information and the President and GM lying.
It appears to me that the Press Release included a fairly generic quote from Cistulli AND misinformation about the CDMA version of the KEYone.
The CDMA miscommunication is still a very significant screw up, but I see absolutely zero evidence of an intentional deception by Steve Cistulli.
Seriously what motive could he possible have to do that, anyway?
Posted with my trusty Z10brunibruni likes this.06-06-17 10:41 AMLike 1 - I didn't ever say he was lying. Not one time in any thread in here. I have responded to people stating that yes, they can botch things even if they were nice when people met them and this would qualify as a screw up which you just acknowledged. But what most people do when they screw up, is they fix the screw up rather then remain absolutely quiet and hope nobody notices.
Posted with my trusty Z1006-06-17 12:08 PMLike 0 -
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