- I just picked up a Oneplus 3T a week ago and I am loving it. It's fast as Hell.
I setup Nova launcher so I could swipe up the HUB and installed the Blackberry keyboard. Life is good!!!!!06-21-17 09:49 PMLike 0 - How am I trolling? I've been saying for ages that it's overpriced.
K1 owners just have to admit they were ripped off. Its ok, I've been ripped off too.
I've paid over $1000 Cad for the Priv. That was a lot of money. And while in restrospect it wasn't worth it, I didn't mind too much.
I understand the low production run = higher price per component cost.
But they're using cheap parts! They have zero quality control!
The K1 is a pile of trash. An overpriced pile of trash at that.
OnePlus just proved that the K1 could have been far more powerful.
TCL banked on the name, and on the BlackBerry faithful who can't accept any criticism.
Every brand has fanboys, but BlackBerry ones are by far the worst.
And here is the thing, I like BlackBerry devices, I've owned several. I want them to succeed.
So when they put our a subpar device, they should be called out to fix it.
Anyone can pair a big battery with a mid-tier processor. That's easy. It's not an achievement.
With Google doing the hard lifting on battery optimizations, they don't even have to try that hard.
Making a thin, attractive device, AND having great battery life, AND giving it an attractive price point is a challenge.
If the K1 was at least like 300-350 bucks, which is still more than the competition at that level of hardware, it would be acceptable, but it's not.
Now you may not care about specs, and you really really want the keyboard, and you're willing to overpay for the keyboard and the BlackBerry name. And don't give me anything about updates because the Priv and Dteks don't have nougat, clearly BlackBerry doesn't update their devices.
Then fine, buy it, be happy with it. But realize you overpaid. That's all.
And hopefully you can get your warranty replacement when it falls apart, when you throw it from being fed up with the lag that is going to happen.
Calling me a troll. Are you kidding me? You're delusional.
You are entitled to your opinion but for those that want these features they see the value.
In would be willing to bet 9 out of 10 people have no idea the specs in their phones. They are more concerned about taking good selfies to upload to social media.
Posted via CB1006-21-17 10:41 PMLike 0 -
Stop talking nonsense.
Posted via CB1006-21-17 11:02 PMLike 0 - I'm curious what other phone has a PKB with 56 shortcuts , fantastic battery, very good camera, BlackBerry software like the HUB, monthly updates, etc?
You are entitled to your opinion but for those that want these features they see the value.
In would be willing to bet 9 out of 10 people have no idea the specs in their phones. They are more concerned about taking good selfies to upload to social media.
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Very good camera? Almost every thing else has a better camera. The K1s camera is OK at best.
Blackberry software like the hub? Almost every android phone has access to that!
Monthly updates? Nexus lines, Pixels, Nokia, some Samsung models.
And at least they're rolling out Nougat which blackberry isn't even doing for their older devices.
Which leaves us at the pkb. Shortcuts? Only works on home screen, and not with a custom launcher, so basically might as well not exist.
But I'll tell you what. It is the BEST keyboard on a device right now. It's good that you think that's worth a $250 premium over similar devices.
Now you tell me which devices lack adhesive on the screen, have bad cell coverage, have microphones that don't worm, terrible lag, crappy build quality, and still manage to charge a premium price and have defenders like the KO?
You're looking for something as good as the KO. I'm trying to find something as bad, and having a really hard time.krazyatom likes this.06-21-17 11:07 PMLike 1 -
Now you tell me which devices lack adhesive on the screen, have bad cell coverage, have microphones that don't worm, terrible lag, crappy build quality, and still manage to charge a premium price and have defenders like the KO?
You're looking for something as good as the KO. I'm trying to find something as bad, and having a really hard time.
You'd change your tune if you used a KEYᵒⁿᵉ for a couple of days.
I see no logical reason for you to continue bashing the product without real first hand experience.06-21-17 11:13 PMLike 0 - 06-21-17 11:51 PMLike 0
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But you don't have to go much farther than these very forums to see multiple daily complaints of those issues.
And yes, just because you don't have them doesn't mean they don't exist.
And I have played with the key one. It was excessively big for a relatively small package.
It was a big pile of "meh" .
Which is the last thing you'd expect from BlackBerry.
Besides, I tend to not buy phones with falling screens. My passport was enough, thank you.06-22-17 01:49 AMLike 0 - YOU haven't.
But you don't have to go much farther than these very forums to see multiple daily complaints of those issues.
And yes, just because you don't have them doesn't mean they don't exist.
And I have played with the key one. It was excessively big for a relatively small package.
It was a big pile of "meh" .
Which is the last thing you'd expect from BlackBerry.
Besides, I tend to not buy phones with falling screens. My passport was enough, thank you.06-22-17 02:50 AMLike 0 - I bought the K1. I am one of the many unfortunate owners who received a problematic unit (SD unmounting unexpectedly issue). I have to agree with John. He made some very valid points. Oneplus, like Blackberry now, only has a negligible market share in smartphones. yet they can still pump out such amazing specs at same price as the k1, not to mention that this is not their launch device, so they did not do it for the fame. it's only fair to assume that TCL and Blackberry really banked on the brand name this time. But nevertheless, i understand at the end of the day k1 does have its usp in the keyboard, and I am willing to accept that as well. what I ultimately care the most is the build quality, which TCL failed to deliver. and for that I think Blackberry really tanked big timekrazyatom and schumi_xtreme01 like this.06-22-17 02:55 AMLike 2
- I bought the K1. I am one of the many unfortunate owners who received a problematic unit (SD unmounting unexpectedly issue). I have to agree with John. He made some very valid points. Oneplus, like Blackberry now, only has a negligible market share in smartphones. yet they can still pump out such amazing specs at same price as the k1, not to mention that this is not their launch device, so they did not do it for the fame. it's only fair to assume that TCL and Blackberry really banked on the brand name this time. But nevertheless, i understand at the end of the day k1 does have its usp in the keyboard, and I am willing to accept that as well. what I ultimately care the most is the build quality, which TCL failed to deliver. and for that I think Blackberry really tanked big time06-22-17 03:02 AMLike 0
- Flossy carter, the one reviewer everyone raves about..
just called Keyone a laggberry and is moving to oneplus5
I mean, this is what I told earlier. Yes, I believe keyone is a bit overpriced (compared with moto Z play, oneplus5, even oneplus3) but I still want it just because of Keyboard.
for me it is the main and final differentiator. If there was no need _ i would be rocking my xiaomi devices on daily basis.06-22-17 03:50 AMLike 0 - It really doesn't matter if you want the PKB and the keyboard shortcut Android experience.
If not then just PAS (Pick a Slab)06-22-17 05:35 AMLike 0 - Fantastic battery? Cheaper Huawei devices.
Very good camera? Almost every thing else has a better camera. The K1s camera is OK at best.
Blackberry software like the hub? Almost every android phone has access to that!
Monthly updates? Nexus lines, Pixels, Nokia, some Samsung models.
And at least they're rolling out Nougat which blackberry isn't even doing for their older devices.
Which leaves us at the pkb. Shortcuts? Only works on home screen, and not with a custom launcher, so basically might as well not exist.
But I'll tell you what. It is the BEST keyboard on a device right now. It's good that you think that's worth a $250 premium over similar devices.
Now you tell me which devices lack adhesive on the screen, have bad cell coverage, have microphones that don't worm, terrible lag, crappy build quality, and still manage to charge a premium price and have defenders like the KO?
You're looking for something as good as the KO. I'm trying to find something as bad, and having a really hard time.
I don't own a KEYone one nor do I know if I will buy a Keyone but your opinions are meaningless to me and for that matter any other phone purchaser. I haven't decided if I want a PKB for my next device let alone an android device for my next device. I'm leaning towards an IPhone 7 but not positive. I'm intrigued by the KEYone it has a lot of features I want but I'm still on the fence but again your clueless opinions are worthless to me and just about every one else.
You are entitled to your opinions on phones even if you are wrong. Your assumptions are meaningless. Why can't you understand that your opinions and outright bias doesn't matter to people that want a KEYone
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Posted via CB1006-22-17 06:42 AMLike 0 - I bought the K1. I am one of the many unfortunate owners who received a problematic unit (SD unmounting unexpectedly issue). I have to agree with John. He made some very valid points. Oneplus, like Blackberry now, only has a negligible market share in smartphones. yet they can still pump out such amazing specs at same price as the k1, not to mention that this is not their launch device, so they did not do it for the fame. it's only fair to assume that TCL and Blackberry really banked on the brand name this time. But nevertheless, i understand at the end of the day k1 does have its usp in the keyboard, and I am willing to accept that as well. what I ultimately care the most is the build quality, which TCL failed to deliver. and for that I think Blackberry really tanked big time
Posted via CB1006-22-17 06:46 AMLike 0 - On a side note, not arguing, I think that the bootloop issue that LG experienced is far, far worse than that of the screen issues with the KeyOne. That issue has impacted multiple models of their phones, all due to solder. The iPhone's bendgate impacted seemingly more phones than the KeyOne as well. DO to inferior use of metals inside the phone. Samsungs Note catching fire even worse. The fact is that many manufacturers have had issues. Yet, I get the impression that the focus is different on BlackBerry than all of those aforementioned with the exception of the Note.06-22-17 07:22 AMLike 0
- kbz1960Doesn't MatterI bought the K1. I am one of the many unfortunate owners who received a problematic unit (SD unmounting unexpectedly issue). I have to agree with John. He made some very valid points. Oneplus, like Blackberry now, only has a negligible market share in smartphones. yet they can still pump out such amazing specs at same price as the k1, not to mention that this is not their launch device, so they did not do it for the fame. it's only fair to assume that TCL and Blackberry really banked on the brand name this time. But nevertheless, i understand at the end of the day k1 does have its usp in the keyboard, and I am willing to accept that as well. what I ultimately care the most is the build quality, which TCL failed to deliver. and for that I think Blackberry really tanked big time06-22-17 07:34 AMLike 0
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- Except it's not. The 625 is not premium. The 3gb of ram is not premium. The plastic back is not premium. The falling screens are not premium. The lag isn't premium.
So what's premium about it? The way it feels in your hand? Great.
Dude, you're allowed to like it. I'm really happy you do. Because otherwise no one would.
I like a crappy phone. In fact I really love it. But I accept it's crappie, has shortfalls, and there are issues with it.
The KO has a lot of them too.
(2) as for 625 vs 820 (821 would be better), performance/cost is best of the two. As an engineer, for the price of 549 USD mid range with KB (at least that will knock out 50.00 or more... so the phone is actually priced as 500ish), better selection consider the thermal budget and power utilization... I can understand why it is in K1 and very happy about the selection. https://technewswith.me/snapdragon-625-vs-820
I guess the expert in the field appear to be agree with me on the performance with bench mark to prove it. If you believe their quantification. (of course, you can always select "Not" to believe them and find or generate your own data).
(3) based on the item (2), I am happy with K1 (gave to my relative) and didn't felt ripped off. I think you need to find something, someone you can trust, to either quench the anger of K1 priced too high, out of your reach, or better buy something else... when you find out justification you are not RIPped off by "one plus" or others, with your willingness to pay (like you did for Priv), go to their fan site and voice your happiness - just like what I did now.06-22-17 07:45 AMLike 0 - kbz1960Doesn't Matter06-22-17 07:49 AMLike 0
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I also personally know people who do it to.06-22-17 07:50 AMLike 0
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