ATT Visual Voicemail and Google Voice need help

1. Tried ATT Visual voicemail, I can get the messages in the app, but I never get a notification from the app, only the phone app with the little voicemail icon. On my dtek 60 I would get a push from the ATT visual voicemail app

2. So, as an alternative I tried forwarding voicemails to my Google Voice account. Again, I do not get a push notification from the GV app either, but can open the app and the the VMs

3. I have tried uninstalling GV, re-installing, also tried deleteing my Google Account from the phone, and re-adding it, have also cleared system and app caches

All notifications are enabled, and other notifications work fine from Email, etc

Any ideas?

ok, looks like this may relate to the other thread going about "no notifications after June update""