02-10-20 12:51 AM
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  1. Crusader03's Avatar
    After reading today that Sound Recorder on our Key devices is listed as a top Malware app from a company owned by TCL, I had a look at permissions. Why would a simple Sound Recorder need so many sensitive permissions? This just gets better by the day! Sounder Recorder (System App)-screenshot_20200207-122246.jpgSounder Recorder (System App)-screenshot_20200207-122253.jpgSounder Recorder (System App)-screenshot_20200207-192802.jpg
    02-07-20 09:33 PM
  2. howarmat's Avatar
    its not the same app to my knowledge
    02-07-20 10:31 PM
  3. Crusader03's Avatar
    its not the same app to my knowledge
    Hopefully someone can confirm that it is indeed not!
    02-07-20 11:25 PM
  4. anon(10622733)'s Avatar
    Hopefully someone can confirm that it is indeed not!
    I confirm that what you have shown is correct, but what do they mean by "capabilities"? Do these capabilities supersede permission?
    02-08-20 12:01 AM
  5. anon(10622733)'s Avatar
    It's the same app.
    its not the same app to my knowledge
    02-08-20 12:09 AM
  6. Crusader03's Avatar
    I confirm that what you have shown is correct, but what do they mean by "capabilities"? Do these capabilities supersede permission?
    Never mentioned capabilities. But that would also be worrisome!
    02-08-20 12:10 AM
  7. Crusader03's Avatar
    And interestingly enough, it cannot be disabled! Why?
    02-08-20 12:13 AM
  8. conite's Avatar
    And interestingly enough, it cannot be disabled! Why?
    If you're worried, use NetGuard to prevent connections.
    02-08-20 12:15 AM
  9. Crusader03's Avatar
    I am seeking to know whether or not to be worried!
    02-08-20 12:16 AM
  10. anon(10622733)'s Avatar
    I am seeking to know whether or not to be worried!
    Well just take a look at the Crackberry Forums app.... I think the word capabilities is the key here... stop worrying. Sounder Recorder (System App)-notable-00050.jpeg
    02-08-20 12:23 AM
  11. Crusader03's Avatar
    CB isn't on a Malware list! This app is!


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    02-08-20 11:28 AM
  12. chetmanley's Avatar
    Hopefully someone can confirm that it is indeed not!
    I don't think it is.

    The TCL BlackBerry version may very well be based on the Alcatel spyware version, hence all of the permissions. But the BlackBerry version does not have any built in trackers and it never connects to the internet as far as I have seen.

    The name of the application (com.tct.voicerecorder.bb) is different from the alcatel version and has a different signing signature.

    If you really want to disable it, you should be able to via ADB.
    Last edited by chetmanley; 02-08-20 at 03:11 PM.
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    02-08-20 12:06 PM
  13. howarmat's Avatar
    I don't this it is.

    The TCL BlackBerry version may very well be based on the Alcatel spyware version, hence all of the permissions. But the BlackBerry version does not have any built in trackers and it never connects to the internet as far as I have seen.

    The name of the application (com.tct.voicerecorder.bb) is different from the alcatel version and has a different signing signature.

    If you really want to disable it, you should be able to via ADB.
    Yep, they have different versions the BB version like mention has BB added to it. Whether or not is just a complete repackage from TCL/BB for the BBM devices I cant say for sure but they are different versions for sure
    02-08-20 01:11 PM
  14. Crusader03's Avatar
    Hopefully that's the case, however, no-one has yet confirmed 100%.

    Makes me wonder what's baked into the cheap TCL TV's? This is a shady relationship at best (TCL owning a Malware company) and perhaps a direct threat now that the Partnership is over. We shall see! Confidence in anything TCL might very well be misplaced! Caveat Emptor!
    02-08-20 01:45 PM
  15. chetmanley's Avatar
    I am seeking to know whether or not to be worried!
    I don't think we need to be worried about this app. I've monitored it closely for over a year. It has never done anything that would lead me to want it disabled - which is possible via ADB.
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    02-08-20 03:14 PM
  16. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    It is the same app, from TCL, and I recommend removing it.

    Z10 = BB10 + VKB > iOS + Android
    02-08-20 05:18 PM
  17. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    I don't think we need to be worried about this app. I've monitored it closely for over a year. It has never done anything that would lead me to want it disabled - which is possible via ADB.
    That's good to hear. I won't b taken the chance because I don't want any of my info on Chinese servers, for privacy reasons.

    For me, it's not a question of whether an app has misbehaved. I only want apps from highly trusted developers. No mainland Chinese company can avoid the Chinese government's data retention policies.

    The app and TCL may be completely innocent, but in terms of minimizing my attack surface, their apps still have to go.

    Z10 = BB10 + VKB > iOS + Android
    02-08-20 05:21 PM
  18. Crusader03's Avatar
    It is the same app, from TCL, and I recommend removing it.

    Z10 = BB10 + VKB > iOS + Android
    Cannot be removed or disabled as I mentioned. That is what is so troubling!

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    02-08-20 06:38 PM
  19. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    Cannot be removed or disabled as I mentioned. That is what is so troubling!

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    Weird. I had no problem removing it on my AT&T KEYone. I simply dragged it to uninstall and it uninstalled.

    Perhaps it's not a system app in the AT&T build?

    Z10 = BB10 + VKB > iOS + Android
    02-08-20 06:43 PM
  20. Crusader03's Avatar
    It is definitely not possible to disable or uninstall as the the screen shots I provided clearly show. We have still had no reassurance that this app is completely safe! Can Malware work in the background without showing any signs of Internet connection? Can it mask such connection?

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    02-08-20 06:51 PM
  21. conite's Avatar
    It is definitely not possible to disable or uninstall as the the screen shots I provided clearly show. We have still had no reassurance that this app is completely safe! Can Malware work in the background without showing any signs of Internet connection? Can it mask such connection?

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    It can be removed from the user-space via adb as stated above. I still see no evidence it's a problem at all though.
    02-08-20 06:53 PM
  22. Crusader03's Avatar
    You didn't initially see a problem with the last attempt at Malware install from TCL either (Preview - App)! So no surprise!

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    02-08-20 07:00 PM
  23. Crusader03's Avatar
    And why should BlackBerry users have to use a 3rd party app to secure our BlackBerry secured devices! This is going to the ridiculous, fast!

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    02-08-20 07:01 PM
  24. conite's Avatar
    I don't think we need to be worried about this app. I've monitored it closely for over a year. It has never done anything that would lead me to want it disabled - which is possible via ADB.
    And why should BlackBerry users have to use a 3rd party app to secure our BlackBerry secured devices! This is going to the ridiculous, fast!

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    You don't need to. ^^^
    02-08-20 07:10 PM
  25. conite's Avatar
    You didn't initially see a problem with the last attempt at Malware install from TCL either (Preview - App)! So no surprise!

    Posted via my Passport
    No. I said TCL was in their rights to install bloatware if they wished, although I thought it was poor form given the BlackBerry clientele. But, as we found out, it was an accident and was rectified.
    02-08-20 07:11 PM
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