- Am a Canadian BB supporter but am worried that BB's retail phone business is dead-in-the-water with the recent announcement of the cancellation of its agreement with its 3rd-party manufacturer. In addition, many BB services have been winding down, e.g BB World, BBM, etc.
I am inclined to buy a BB Key2 to replace my "aging" BB Passport, but am a little nervous that I will be buying a phone with limited support.
Looking forward to hearing people's thoughts on this.WArcher and leopardgirl like this.03-06-20 03:05 PMLike 2 - Am a Canadian BB supporter but am worried that BB's retail phone business is dead-in-the-water with the recent announcement of the cancellation of its agreement with its 3rd-party manufacturer. In addition, many BB services have been winding down, e.g BB World, BBM, etc.
I am inclined to buy a BB Key2 to replace my "aging" BB Passport, but am a little nervous that I will be buying a phone with limited support.
Looking forward to hearing people's thoughts on this.
You'd be going from the Android 4.3 runtime on a SD801 processor with 3GB RAM to Android 8.1 on a SD660 processor with 6GB RAM
Big difference!03-06-20 04:47 PMLike 0 - Am a Canadian BB supporter but am worried that BB's retail phone business is dead-in-the-water with the recent announcement of the cancellation of its agreement with its 3rd-party manufacturer. In addition, many BB services have been winding down, e.g BB World, BBM, etc.
I am inclined to buy a BB Key2 to replace my "aging" BB Passport, but am a little nervous that I will be buying a phone with limited support.
Looking forward to hearing people's thoughts on this.
If you can do without a pkb you'd be better placed buying a phone running Android 10 like a Google Pixel...
Interesting article from the BBC regarding support for Android based phones:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51751950tfitzpat03 likes this.03-06-20 05:02 PMLike 1 - Am a Canadian BB supporter but am worried that BB's retail phone business is dead-in-the-water with the recent announcement of the cancellation of its agreement with its 3rd-party manufacturer. In addition, many BB services have been winding down, e.g BB World, BBM, etc.
I am inclined to buy a BB Key2 to replace my "aging" BB Passport, but am a little nervous that I will be buying a phone with limited support.
Looking forward to hearing people's thoughts on this.03-07-20 10:29 AMLike 0 -
- I got it with a contract and did not pay anything for the device but the contract is charged with 20€ per month, so 480€ in sum.
I am living in Germany.03-07-20 03:17 PMLike 0 - What price range did you pay?
I just looked at a new KeyOne, from ATT, $349.99, outright. Rather tempting. But, then I keep thinking I should just go with the Key2.
I did say, after the Priv, and its rapid decline, I would not spend over $500 on a BlackBerry device. Hence, the hesitation for a Key 2.03-07-20 06:33 PMLike 0 - Am a Canadian BB supporter but am worried that BB's retail phone business is dead-in-the-water with the recent announcement of the cancellation of its agreement with its 3rd-party manufacturer. In addition, many BB services have been winding down, e.g BB World, BBM, etc.
I am inclined to buy a BB Key2 to replace my "aging" BB Passport, but am a little nervous that I will be buying a phone with limited support.
Looking forward to hearing people's thoughts on this.
The K2 is coming up on 2 years old, but security patches have already ended (for ALL BB-branded devices) and there will be no further BB-branded smartphones, so, really, the decision is: is a PKB phone super important to you - because the K2 is likely to be the last high-quality PKB phone from a major company - or can you live with an all-touch phone. If a PKB is important to you, can you live without security patches? Given that you're still using a Passport, which hasn't been updated in years, it seems that you can, but if you can't, then you need to move on to another brand.John Albert likes this.03-08-20 02:52 PMLike 1 - BlackBerry Black Edition KeyOne with 4/64, BlackBerry K2 LE with 4/64 or a BlackBerry K2 with 6/64 or 6/128 operate and work very well as of today and will for years to come. Keep your applications updated and you will be PERFECTLY fine. There are over a billion Android users using devices on Android 6 or lower. In fact most Android tablets are on KitKat 4.4 and do things people use their tablets for 7 years later just fine. (I have a Samsung Tab Pro 10 that streams Netflix and Amazon Prime material beautifully). All the Key devices listed are on Oreo 8.1. a very stable Android OS. (My Samsung S9 just updated to Android 10 and outside of "Google" navigation swiping and Samsung UI 2.0 changes I see zero difference as a user. (Samsung already had dark mode and much of the Android 10 stuff in their 9.0 and One UI 1.0) I use my BlackBerry Black KeyOne with zero issues.03-08-20 04:03 PMLike 2
- I appreciate all the replies. Let's assume that I make the plunge (which I'm not convinced I will do) . . . should I pay about $875 Canadian for the Key2 or go with the lesser Key2 LE for +$500. Which has better value?03-09-20 12:39 AMLike 0
- Since both devices are no longer getting security updates and seem to be extremely marked up by third parties with possible warranty issues, NEITHER?!?03-09-20 07:45 AMLike 3
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Is the LE at $500 better than the KEY2 at $825 ?
Well it depends if he values the extra specs of the KEY2 and the bigger, capacitive keyboard.
If not, then obviously he should get an LE.
There are other things aside from security updates when considering a device...like having a device that's actually enjoyable to use lol
In the slab world, everything looks just as boring and the same as the next thing, so then sure might as well stay on updated hardware.
That said, the above mentioned prices aren't great.Gtrxuone likes this.03-09-20 09:17 AMLike 1 - Again, thanks for the responses. The two dogs in my head have been actively fighting while reading comments here and on other threads - particularly those threads outlining the seeming demise of Blackberry mobility. The dogs are still fighting . . .03-10-20 08:39 PMLike 0
- Have had mine in use for 5 days now and must say I'm really happy I got one before it's too late. It's a wicked nice unit, can't fault it for anything (except android) so far.03-11-20 11:04 AMLike 0
- I've a Key2 and for me, the only reason I still use a BlackBerry is the physical keyboard. Switching to Android from the BB OS took a bit of getting used to, but it was manageable for me. I tried the touchscreen for a few months, though, with the release of DTEK then, but I'm just a physical keyboard kinda guy.
I'm gonna milk this phone until it's unuseable, and hopefully by then, a decent phone with a physical keyboard (not that Titan? one though) would make its way to the market.03-12-20 07:35 AMLike 0 - The AT&T KEYone Is patched through November 2019.
If you choose to use a phone that is no longer receiving security updates, you should accept all responsibility for security on your device. That means paying attention to known vulnerabilities and being extra careful of the apps you install and use.
I am committed to using my AT&T KEYone for as long as possible. So far. I have seen no published vulnerabilities I cannot easily mitigate myself with simple best practices.
Z10 = BB10 + VKB > iOS + Android03-12-20 07:44 AMLike 0 - I've a Key2 and for me, the only reason I still use a BlackBerry is the physical keyboard. Switching to Android from the BB OS took a bit of getting used to, but it was manageable for me. I tried the touchscreen for a few months, though, with the release of DTEK then, but I'm just a physical keyboard kinda guy.
I'm gonna milk this phone until it's unuseable, and hopefully by then, a decent phone with a physical keyboard (not that Titan? one though) would make its way to the market.
The KEY2 is definitely more future proof.
That said, even a KEYone Black Edition can be serviceable these days if you don't need to do intensive tasks.
Who knows when a half decent keyboard device will come in the future, might want to stock up on a few KEY2's and LE's till then.03-12-20 08:01 AMLike 0 -
Sorry but BBMo (TCL) is done - they have laid that out. Even if BlackBerry found another "partner" (long shot) they won't be updating or patching TCL's phones. KEY2 is what it is.
Personally I wouldn't buy an overpriced two year old phone that was midgrade back at lauch, and that is running a two (soon to be three) year old version of Android and won't see any more security patches. But then I'm not a huge PKB fan either.
Three years ago, most everyone here taught people were crazy using Android without patches.... BlackBerry Android was the only way to go. Now that they have no choice they have lowered their view of patches... can get buy without them if you are careful.
Kinda like you could take a cruise right now if you were careful... odds are you are right, but then why risk it.03-13-20 07:46 AMLike 0 - Well, I agree with most here saying that if PKB is essential for you, go for it. It seems that it is the best high quality option.
I did not like the price either. Thus went with second hand unit.03-13-20 09:38 AMLike 0 - Seeming demise?
Sorry but BBMo (TCL) is done - they have laid that out. Even if BlackBerry found another "partner" (long shot) they won't be updating or patching TCL's phones. KEY2 is what it is.
Personally I wouldn't buy an overpriced two year old phone that was midgrade back at lauch, and that is running a two (soon to be three) year old version of Android and won't see any more security patches. But then I'm not a huge PKB fan either.
Three years ago, most everyone here taught people were crazy using Android without patches.... BlackBerry Android was the only way to go. Now that they have no choice they have lowered their view of patches... can get buy without them if you are careful.
Kinda like you could take a cruise right now if you were careful... odds are you are right, but then why risk it.
Z10 = BB10 + VKB > iOS + Android03-13-20 10:43 AMLike 0 - For the most part, buying a Key2 is putting off the inevitable - you can learn to use and like a VKB device now (with OS updates, security patches, etc.) or you can learn to use and like a VKB device in a year or two. Ask yourself how much is it worth to you to put off the inevitable for a while. You obviously did it with your Passport, so maybe the cost/benefit would work for you more so than for another individual. I personally wouldn't buy one now at the prices they are going for with limited to zero support, but I did a year ago when it had already been clear for some time that the future of PKB phones was tenuous at best. I was also one of those diehards that hung on to my Passport for a long time after the BB OS was history.
There will probably never be a viable market again for a quality PKB device (the Titan ain't it) as the numbers of us dinosaurs who prefer it are just too small in today's world - although, hey, the vinyl records that I and others believed were finished many years ago came back, so anything is possible.Last edited by SeeBeeEss; 03-13-20 at 12:11 PM.
03-13-20 11:20 AMLike 0 - For the most part, buying a Key2 is putting off the enevitable - you can learn to use and like a VKB device now (with OS updates, security patches, etc.) or you can learn to use and like a VKB device in a year or two. Ask yourself how much is it worth to you to put off the enevitable for a while. You obviously did it with your Passport, so maybe the cost/benefit would work for you more so than for another individual. I personally wouldn't buy one now at the prices they are going for with limited to zero support, but I did a year ago when it had already been clear for some time that the future of PKB phones was tenuous at best. I was also one of those diehards that hung on to my Passport for a long time after the BB OS was history.
There will probably never be a viable market again for a quality PKB devise (the Titan ain't it) as the numbers of us dinosaurs who prefer it are just too small in today's world - although, hey, the vinyl records that I and others believed were finished many years ago came back, so anything is possible.
To me, it's not "inevitable" that we PKB holdouts will be obligated to resort to glass at some point.03-13-20 11:34 AMLike 0 - Yikes. Thanks for pointing out my Friday morning spelling mistake - and I hope that you are right and I am wrong about the "inevitability" of PKB devices becoming a part of history's dustbin.03-13-20 11:49 AMLike 0
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