- Actually, to the iPhone's defense, the latest XR which I just got for my wife has very impressive battery life. Her previous 8 Plus was good too (not as good as XR).
Aside from that, yeah the battery life sucks. Every time Apple does some magic with their chipset and software efficiency, they ruin it by compensating negatively via a smaller battery.
Now my KEY2 doesn't require that... I can easily get through the day starting with a 100% charge in the morning and by bedtime I'm typically at 40% or more remaining. I am a moderate to heavy user of my KEY2... texts, emails, and voice calls all throughout the day and evening. I highly doubt an iPhone could go that long on one full charge with the same use.
Bob
Bob11-14-18 03:18 PMLike 0 - I can only speak to my familiarity with the new iPhones that my 4 children have as well as my lady friend. She works for AT&T and was forced to give up her BlackBerry and get an iPhone. All my children are constantly charging their iPhones throughout the day as is my lady friend. My oldest son and my lady friend carry power packs in the event they are not in their car or accessible to an AC outlet.
Now my KEY2 doesn't require that... I can easily get through the day starting with a 100% charge in the morning and by bedtime I'm typically at 40% or more remaining. I am a moderate to heavy user of my KEY2... texts, emails, and voice calls all throughout the day and evening. I highly doubt an iPhone could go that long on one full charge with the same use.
Bob
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Bob11-14-18 03:39 PMLike 0 - 11-14-18 03:39 PMLike 0
- Actually, to the iPhone's defense, the latest XR which I just got for my wife has very impressive battery life. Her previous 8 Plus was good too (not as good as XR).
Aside from that, yeah the battery life sucks. Every time Apple does some magic with their chipset and software efficiency, they ruin it by compensating negatively via a smaller battery.11-14-18 04:45 PMLike 0 - 11-14-18 04:55 PMLike 0
- Red, if that matters lol
Well yeah I realize that the Samsung keyboard covers are crap compared to the KEY2's PKB (even though I never tried them), but you seem to hate everything about BBMo so much that I honestly thought you'd be happier with one of those than a KEY device.11-14-18 04:59 PMLike 0 - I'm sorry you're not happy with the specs on BlackBerry Mobile's offerings. But I don't know why you think they would be more successful selling the phone you want at an even higher price? I am pretty sure the product managers at BlackBerry Mobile, who have better information and are much more personally invested than any of us in the brand's success, are in a much better position to design the phone's than a few amateurs on an Internet forum with no information except our personal preferences!
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Like @conite said it would be 25% more expensive, don't know how since it uses much smaller screen then all others but so be it, they can make same performance device for 800 buck easy and become interesting in general.
be honest, minority for PKB is interested now just because of PKB, no other internal makes anyone interest including existing minority PKB owners to KEY2 because it's horrible. Think about it.
And all existing "product" managers for hardware and software like camera app should be fired by now11-14-18 05:05 PMLike 0 - Pocophone or oneplus offers much higher performance phones for 300-500 bucks, huawei offers P20 PRO for 700 bucks
Like @conite said it would be 25% more expensive, don't know how since it uses much smaller screen then all others but so be it, they can make same performance device for 800 buck easy and become interesting in general.
be honest, minority for PKB is interested now just because of PKB, no other internal makes anyone interest including existing minority PKB owners to KEY2 because it's horrible. Think about it.
And all existing "product" managers for hardware and software like camera app should be fired by now11-14-18 05:10 PMLike 0 - I can only speak to my familiarity with the new iPhones that my 4 children have as well as my lady friend. She works for AT&T and was forced to give up her BlackBerry and get an iPhone. All my children are constantly charging their iPhones throughout the day as is my lady friend. My oldest son and my lady friend carry power packs in the event they are not in their car or accessible to an AC outlet.
Now my KEY2 doesn't require that... I can easily get through the day starting with a 100% charge in the morning and by bedtime I'm typically at 40% or more remaining. I am a moderate to heavy user of my KEY2... texts, emails, and voice calls all throughout the day and evening. I highly doubt an iPhone could go that long on one full charge with the same use.
Bob
Bob11-14-18 05:12 PMLike 0 -
- I am 9 hours into my day with my KEY2 since it's last full charge and I've been sending emails all day, texting on Google Messenger, texting and voice calls on WhatsApp, voice calls on AT&T, listening to music on Spotify for almost 2 hours between my early morning run and the gym. And I am currently at 76% battery remaining. I highly doubt a new iPhone would do that.
Bob11-14-18 05:18 PMLike 0 - Pocophone or oneplus offers much higher performance phones for 300-500 bucks, huawei offers P20 PRO for 700 bucks
Like @conite said it would be 25% more expensive, don't know how since it uses much smaller screen then all others but so be it, they can make same performance device for 800 buck easy and become interesting in general.
be honest, minority for PKB is interested now just because of PKB, no other internal makes anyone interest including existing minority PKB owners to KEY2 because it's horrible. Think about it.
And all existing "product" managers for hardware and software like camera app should be fired by now
The extra $185 US (under $8/mo for 2 years) is a no brainer for me.Last edited by conite; 11-14-18 at 05:38 PM.
11-14-18 05:23 PMLike 0 - Red, if that matters lol
Well yeah I realize that the Samsung keyboard covers are crap compared to the KEY2's PKB (even though I never tried them), but you seem to hate everything about BBMo so much that I honestly thought you'd be happier with one of those than a KEY device.
I had a honor to touch Samsung PKB cover, believe me it's trash.
Well, maybe I sound too strictly.. I do not hate EVERYTHING about BBM, just to be clear, I love the design and PKB. It is a really masterpiece for my eyes, but all those "product" managers responsible for hardware and camera app software should be fired since they revealed KEY2.11-14-18 05:26 PMLike 0 - I'm keep mentioning them just for the sake of proof that it is just a little bull**** in words "it is too expensive to make high end hardware BB" or "it will cost fortunes", no it doesn't.11-14-18 05:36 PMLike 0
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Bob11-14-18 05:46 PMLike 0 - If you're fine with extra $185 US (under $8/mo for 2 years) for Nokia 7 Plus specs and is a no brainer for you, then extra $335 US (under $14/mo for 2 years (+6 bucks)) would be a mindblow for specs like Huawei P20 PRO, you would love that, don't you? Like mass slab market finally could get different look phone with the same performance?11-14-18 05:49 PMLike 0
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You have to hydrate to be great... 😁
Bob11-14-18 05:51 PMLike 0 -
Nokia 3310 would hold you for a month though, just kidding11-14-18 05:53 PMLike 0 - I go out with my dog around 6:00 AM for a 3 mile jog. I don't eat before that run but upon my return I will have some fruit... banana... oranges, etc. Then I go to the gym and spin for 45 minutes... hit the treadmill for 45 minutes. I eat when I'm done at the gym... oatmeal, yogurt, fruit. I drink a lot of water throughout the day... 1.5-2 gallons.
You have to hydrate to be great... 😁
Bob11-14-18 06:02 PMLike 0 - If you're fine with extra $185 US (under $8/mo for 2 years) for Nokia 7 Plus specs and is a no brainer for you, then extra $335 US (under $14/mo for 2 years (+6 bucks)) would be a mindblow for specs like Huawei P20 PRO, you would love that, don't you? Like mass slab market finally could get different look phone with the same performance?11-14-18 06:12 PMLike 0
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- I've already reached the point of diminishing returns on added specs, so there is almost no value play for me to go up.11-14-18 06:34 PMLike 0
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iPhone Xs has only 4GB RAM and doesn't need 6GB to run with no lag.
IPhone Xs have 7MP selfie camera, KEY2 have 8MP selfie and it embarrassing terrible while iPhones "lower specs" camera performance high end.
My point is.. focus must be about performance not specs, no one cares about specs, if camera takes a crap picture, if speakers sounds wack, if screen is dim, if it lags on certain apps, after this wacky experience no body cares about how long battery last in the drawer and BBM fails a lot in here.
And no body cares what it takes to perform like this, specs is your inside job to make a perfect performance, you must do it or you're nothing, call yourself a niche a **** or whatever, your wasting your and everyones time by making wacky product.
@BBM it's not your job to refurbish and sell unsold TCL ****ty Alcatel phones hardware, stop wasting your time on making wacky products.Last edited by iHadLastBB; 11-14-18 at 07:37 PM.
11-14-18 07:26 PMLike 0 - This is why I talk about performance, not specs a lot.
iPhone Xs has only 4GB RAM and doesn't need 6GB to run with no lag.
IPhone Xs have 7MP selfie camera, KEY2 have 8MP selfie and it embarrassing terrible while iPhones "lower specs" camera performance high end.
My point is.. focus must be about performance not specs, no one cares about specs, if camera takes a crap picture, if speakers sounds wack, if screen is dim, if it lags on certain apps, after this wacky experience no body cares about how long battery last in the drawer and BBM fails a lot in here.
And no body cares what it takes to perform like this, specs is your inside job to make a perfect performance, you must do it or you're nothing, call yourself a niche a **** or whatever, your wasting your and everyones time by making wacky product.
@BBM it's not your job to refurbish and sell unsold TCL ****ty Alcatel phones hardware, stop wasting your time on making wacky products.
I've already reached the point of diminishing returns on added "performance", so there is almost no value play for me to go up.
The 4 BBMo devices share no components with any Alcatel products. They are durable, well-crafted phones.
If you're happier with a Pico device, then fill your boats.11-14-18 07:38 PMLike 0
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