12-02-18 06:12 PM
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  1. anon(10387168)'s Avatar
    anon(10387168)
    I am very curious as to why BlackBerry would not release security updates to their factory phones first or at least as quick as the new releases? They are not dependent on carrier input. Anyone know why this is so?
    12-01-18 08:03 PM
  2. conite's Avatar
    conite
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    Originally Posted by Crusader03
    I am very curious as to why BlackBerry would not release security updates to their factory phones first or at least as quick as the new releases? They are not dependent on carrier input. Anyone know why this is so?
    All Motion, KEY², and KEY² LE devices are factory unlocked.

    Every variant has to wait for something - carrier approval, regional certification, Google Pay approval, etc, etc.

    So, which specific device variant are you referring to?
    12-01-18 08:14 PM
  3. anon(10387168)'s Avatar
    anon(10387168)
    Originally Posted by conite
    All Motion, KEY², and KEY² LE devices are factory unlocked.

    Every variant has to wait for something - carrier approval, regional certification, Google Pay approval, etc, etc.

    So, which specific device variant are you referring to?
    Bought my Silver K2 from Walmart Canada. Not a carrier provided phone. This is a factory phone. What am I missing here?
    12-01-18 08:18 PM
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    Originally Posted by Crusader03
    Bought my Silver K2 from Walmart Canada. Not a carrier provided phone. This is a factory phone. What am I missing here?
    Which variant (PRD)?

    As NA carriers have to wait for PTCRB certification before green-lighting an update, it seems the non-carrier models are being kept in sync.
    12-01-18 08:28 PM
  5. anon(10387168)'s Avatar
    anon(10387168)
    Originally Posted by conite
    Which variant (PRD)?
    This is my NA PRD. BlackBerry Factory Unlocked Phones-screenshot_20181017-152732.jpeg
    12-01-18 08:32 PM
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    Originally Posted by Crusader03
    This is my NA PRD. Click image for larger version.  Name: Screenshot_20181017-152732.jpeg  Views: 98  Size: 24.9 KB  ID: 441575
    Would have thought you'd have had ABI067 for some time now.
    12-01-18 08:34 PM
  7. anon(10387168)'s Avatar
    anon(10387168)
    Originally Posted by conite
    Would have thought you'd have had ABI067 for some time now.
    I do! old pic, but PRD doesn't change.
    12-01-18 08:35 PM
  8. anon(10387168)'s Avatar
    anon(10387168)
    Still do not understand why security updates do not come first to factory phones. No NA carrier involved here, right?
    12-01-18 08:37 PM
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    conite
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    Originally Posted by Crusader03
    Still do not understand why security updates do not come first to factory phones. No NA carrier involved here, right?
    As I said, ALL devices are factory-unlocked, and ALL updates come from BBMo.
    12-01-18 08:39 PM
  10. anon(10387168)'s Avatar
    anon(10387168)
    Originally Posted by conite
    As I said, ALL devices are factory-unlocked, and ALL updates come from BBMo.
    Thought they went to TLC from BBMo? No?
    12-01-18 08:40 PM
  11. anon(10387168)'s Avatar
    anon(10387168)
    I have read here that carriers often delay because of changes they need made. That would not apply here. What am I missing!
    12-01-18 08:42 PM
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    Originally Posted by Crusader03
    Thought they went to TLC from BBMo? No?
    TCL is BBMo.

    But BlackBerry gets the OS from Google and does its kernel magic. BBMo supplies apps and drivers to BlackBerry. BlackBerry packages it all together, signs it, and sends it to BBMo to distribute.
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    12-01-18 08:43 PM
  13. anon(10387168)'s Avatar
    anon(10387168)
    Oh, ok. That would explain this mess. Thanks,
    12-01-18 08:45 PM
  14. Vistaus's Avatar
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    At least be glad that you're getting it first. EU QWERTY unlocked gets it last. At least up till now.
    anon(10387168) likes this.
    12-02-18 03:40 PM
  15. anon(10387168)'s Avatar
    anon(10387168)
    Originally Posted by Vistaus
    At least be glad that you're getting it first. EU QWERTY unlocked gets it last. At least up till now.
    Definitely not getting it first this time if at all, could be a skipped one.
    12-02-18 04:36 PM
  16. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Chuck Finley69
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    Originally Posted by Crusader03
    Still do not understand why security updates do not come first to factory phones. No NA carrier involved here, right?
    The advantage of factory unlocked devices have been greatly diminished since PRD numbers seems to be important part of the process now.
    anon(10387168) and Vistaus like this.
    12-02-18 06:12 PM
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