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  1. mfk2901's Avatar
    The only reason I would upgrade to the keytwo would be if it has even better battery life than the keyone. So what do you guys know about this?
    05-27-18 03:06 PM
  2. Carjackd's Avatar
    More power and more efficient . I expect a larger battery...probably 4000mah going into the key two will make it a complete tank
    05-27-18 11:06 PM
  3. Ajith_nkr's Avatar
    Absolutely yes.
    SS 660 is kyro type of architecture and it gives you better battery effective functionality and around 40% increase in performance.
    additionally sd 660 boasts X12 moderm to provide energy effective high quality standby
    05-27-18 11:09 PM
  4. Davis Rayler's Avatar
    The battery is confirmed to be smaller.

    Posted with BlackBerry Passport SE via CB10
    05-27-18 11:17 PM
  5. conite's Avatar
    More power and more efficient . I expect a larger battery...probably 4000mah going into the key two will make it a complete tank
    Rumour is a 3360. Slightly smaller (4%).
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    05-27-18 11:36 PM
  6. mfk2901's Avatar
    Absolutely yes.
    SS 660 is kyro type of architecture and it gives you better battery effective functionality and around 40% increase in performance.
    additionally sd 660 boasts X12 moderm to provide energy effective high quality standby
    Haha the way you explain it makes me think the key2 is going to get way better battery life. However it is mentioned the battery will be smaller than the key1. I hope they know what they are doing.
    Ajith_nkr likes this.
    05-28-18 01:07 AM
  7. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Haha the way you explain it makes me think the key2 is going to get way better battery life. However it is mentioned the battery will be smaller than the key1. I hope they know what they are doing.
    If nothing else, it'll likely be on par with KEYone.
    IndianTiwari likes this.
    05-28-18 12:08 PM
  8. IndianTiwari's Avatar
    Rumour is a 3360. Slightly smaller (4%).
    That is fine . The 660 processor might be the key to the battery life.
    skinnymike1 and PantherBlitz like this.
    05-29-18 02:36 AM
  9. the_boon's Avatar
    That is fine . The 660 processor might be the key to the battery life.
    You mean "The KEY2 battery life"



    See what I did there
    Last edited by the_boon; 05-29-18 at 05:49 AM.
    05-29-18 03:51 AM
  10. IndianTiwari's Avatar
    You mean "The KEY2 battery life"



    See what I did there
    Yes I meant KeyTwo. I am using KeyOne and Motion at the moment and both these devices have great battery life.
    Last edited by IndianTiwari; 05-29-18 at 05:13 AM.
    05-29-18 04:56 AM
  11. AZN's Avatar
    Yes I meant KeyTwo. I am using KeyOne and Motion at the moment and both these devices have great battery life.
    You didn't get it 😃
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    05-29-18 06:17 AM
  12. orkneydave's Avatar
    You didn't get it 😃
    05-29-18 06:24 AM
  13. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    K2 will have great battery life....

    Will it last as long as the KEYone... we will have to see, but I suspect it will depend on what you are doing. The 660 is more powerful, and if that extra HP is being utilized (Games), it will probable drain the tank more quickly... and it's a smaller tank. But if all you do is idle along on emails and word documents... it might make it just as far on a full tank as the KEYone.
    IndianTiwari likes this.
    05-29-18 07:22 AM
  14. valer466's Avatar
    Can we run dual apps on the KEYone or the upcoming KEYtwo? Like 2 Facebooks and 2 WhatsApp that many Android brands allow. Could somebody let me know. I might consider K2 if it does.
    05-29-18 07:30 AM
  15. danp2000's Avatar
    K2 will have great battery life....

    Will it last as long as the KEYone... we will have to see, but I suspect it will depend on what you are doing. The 660 is more powerful, and if that extra HP is being utilized (Games), it will probable drain the tank more quickly... and it's a smaller tank. But if all you do is idle along on emails and word documents... it might make it just as far on a full tank as the KEYone.
    I just finished going through a pretty exhaustive read on the differences between the SoC 660 and the 625 and here are my conclusions.

    The 660 CPU is 30% faster than the 625.
    The 660 GPU is 40% faster than the 625.
    The 660 Memory Speed is twice as fast as the 625.
    The 660 LTE Modem is faster than the 625.
    The KEY² Battery is reported to be 4% smaller than the KEYᵒⁿᵉ Battery.
    The 660 is reported to run on a lower core count than the 625 on the same tasks.

    Based on those data points I expect the KEY² to be between 20% & 25% more battery efficient while performing the same tasks.

    The rub is the 660 is reported to do games well and is faster so usage will probably differ which will reduce battery performance, especially if gaming.

    While not completely scientific it should be a pretty good SWAG (Scientific WIld @ss Guess).

    My 2¢ on the matter.
    05-29-18 07:39 AM
  16. the_boon's Avatar
    K2 will have great battery life....

    Will it last as long as the KEYone... we will have to see, but I suspect it will depend on what you are doing. The 660 is more powerful, and if that extra HP is being utilized (Games), it will probable drain the tank more quickly... and it's a smaller tank. But if all you do is idle along on emails and word documents... it might make it just as far on a full tank as the KEYone.
    What's the tank? the K2 itself, or its battery?
    05-29-18 07:41 AM
  17. the_boon's Avatar
    I just finished going through a pretty exhaustive read on the differences between the SoC 660 and the 625 and here are my conclusions.

    The 660 CPU is 30% faster than the 625.
    The 660 GPU is 40% faster than the 625.
    The 660 Memory Speed is twice as fast as the 625.
    The 660 LTE Modem is faster than the 625.
    The KEY² Battery is reported to be 4% smaller than the KEYᵒⁿᵉ Battery.
    The 660 is reported to run on a lower core count than the 625 on the same tasks.

    Based on those data points I expect the KEY² to be between 20% & 25% more battery efficient while performing the same tasks.

    The rub is the 660 is reported to do games well and is faster so usage will probably differ which will reduce battery performance, especially if gaming.

    While not completely scientific it should be a pretty good SWAG (Scientific WIld @ss Guess).

    My 2¢ on the matter.
    Thanks for the nice info.

    Can we conclude that:

    Given that the battery is 4% smaller, and the 660 is at least 20% more efficient than the 625, then the KEY2 will deliver at least as good of endurance as KEYone.
    IndianTiwari likes this.
    05-29-18 07:45 AM
  18. Tim-ANC's Avatar
    I just finished going through a pretty exhaustive read on the differences between the SoC 660 and the 625 and here are my conclusions.

    The 660 CPU is 30% faster than the 625.
    The 660 GPU is 40% faster than the 625.
    The 660 Memory Speed is twice as fast as the 625.
    The 660 LTE Modem is faster than the 625.
    The KEY² Battery is reported to be 4% smaller than the KEYᵒⁿᵉ Battery.
    The 660 is reported to run on a lower core count than the 625 on the same tasks.

    Based on those data points I expect the KEY² to be between 20% & 25% more battery efficient while performing the same tasks.

    The rub is the 660 is reported to do games well and is faster so usage will probably differ which will reduce battery performance, especially if gaming.

    While not completely scientific it should be a pretty good SWAG (Scientific WIld @ss Guess).

    My 2¢ on the matter.
    Excellent SWAG
    05-29-18 08:01 AM
  19. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    I just finished going through a pretty exhaustive read on the differences between the SoC 660 and the 625 and here are my conclusions.

    The 660 CPU is 30% faster than the 625.
    The 660 GPU is 40% faster than the 625.
    The 660 Memory Speed is twice as fast as the 625.
    The 660 LTE Modem is faster than the 625.
    The KEY² Battery is reported to be 4% smaller than the KEYᵒⁿᵉ Battery.
    The 660 is reported to run on a lower core count than the 625 on the same tasks.

    Based on those data points I expect the KEY² to be between 20% & 25% more battery efficient while performing the same tasks.

    The rub is the 660 is reported to do games well and is faster so usage will probably differ which will reduce battery performance, especially if gaming.

    While not completely scientific it should be a pretty good SWAG (Scientific WIld @ss Guess).

    My 2¢ on the matter.
    Only thing is, by that reasoning... the SD 845 should be even more "battery efficient".

    The SD 660 shares the 14nm architecture of the SD 625, and that's really where the power efficiency would have come from.

    Of course BlackBerry could limit the clock speed on the SD660 to match the SD625 and that would help battery life.... again, we will just have to wait and see.
    05-29-18 08:27 AM
  20. danp2000's Avatar
    Only thing is, by that reasoning... the SD 845 should be even more "battery efficient".

    The SD 660 shares the 14nm architecture of the SD 625, and that's really where the power efficiency would have come from.

    Of course BlackBerry could limit the clock speed on the SD660 to match the SD625 and that would help battery life.... again, we will just have to wait and see.
    Actually the figures I used were found while searching the internet comparing the SoC 660 to the 625, I didn't make any comparisons to the 845 at all. The main improvement in the 660 is the upgrades to the later generation and more efficient cores.

    Also it was, as I stated, a SWAG.
    05-29-18 08:29 AM
  21. IndianTiwari's Avatar
    I just finished going through a pretty exhaustive read on the differences between the SoC 660 and the 625 and here are my conclusions.

    The 660 CPU is 30% faster than the 625.
    The 660 GPU is 40% faster than the 625.
    The 660 Memory Speed is twice as fast as the 625.
    The 660 LTE Modem is faster than the 625.
    The KEY² Battery is reported to be 4% smaller than the KEYᵒⁿᵉ Battery.
    The 660 is reported to run on a lower core count than the 625 on the same tasks.

    Based on those data points I expect the KEY² to be between 20% & 25% more battery efficient while performing the same tasks.

    The rub is the 660 is reported to do games well and is faster so usage will probably differ which will reduce battery performance, especially if gaming.

    While not completely scientific it should be a pretty good SWAG (Scientific WIld @ss Guess).

    My 2¢ on the matter.
    Excellent and exhaustive comparison.
    05-29-18 09:07 AM
  22. vladi's Avatar
    BBRY can easily pull some software optimization to gain better battery life than original "icon" with smaller battery in new reborn icon
    05-29-18 09:13 AM
  23. Wezard's Avatar
    Manufacturing tolerances on these batteries is +/- 2.5%.
    So the difference in the 3505mAh on the Key1 and the reported 3360mAh on the Key2 is going to be negligible.
    Thats not to say that the battery life difference between the 2 phones will be negligible.
    But if you dropped the 3360 into the Key1, it would be negligible.
    Nathan Conley likes this.
    05-29-18 02:00 PM
  24. mfk2901's Avatar
    You mean "The KEY2 battery life"



    See what I did there
    I dont think he saw what you did there
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    05-29-18 08:38 PM
  25. mfk2901's Avatar
    I just finished going through a pretty exhaustive read on the differences between the SoC 660 and the 625 and here are my conclusions.

    The 660 CPU is 30% faster than the 625.
    The 660 GPU is 40% faster than the 625.
    The 660 Memory Speed is twice as fast as the 625.
    The 660 LTE Modem is faster than the 625.
    The KEY² Battery is reported to be 4% smaller than the KEYᵒⁿᵉ Battery.
    The 660 is reported to run on a lower core count than the 625 on the same tasks.

    Based on those data points I expect the KEY² to be between 20% & 25% more battery efficient while performing the same tasks.

    The rub is the 660 is reported to do games well and is faster so usage will probably differ which will reduce battery performance, especially if gaming.

    While not completely scientific it should be a pretty good SWAG (Scientific WIld @ss Guess).

    My 2¢ on the matter.
    Nice research. I would conclude that blackberry will not and is not looking to sacrifice battery life for performance. Hence why they chose the 660 chip.
    05-29-18 08:43 PM
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