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BlackBerry should have required some minimum standards by the three licensees.. As well as BBMo should have done the same with the devices they sublicensed to Optiemus (doesn't include the Evolve).05-28-19 02:11 PMLike 0 -
Those were the conditions presented TO BlackBerry to enter those markets. The alternative was nothing at all (which is not far off from how it ended up anyway).Last edited by conite; 05-28-19 at 02:33 PM.
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And realistically, we don't know what the terms are or why some licensees are updating devices the way they are.Dunt Dunt Dunt likes this.05-28-19 03:42 PMLike 1 - Protect what? What is the brand worth in India if there is NO brand in India?
Last edited by conite; 05-28-19 at 04:34 PM.
05-28-19 03:46 PMLike 0 - Still doesn't change that he bought a BlackBerry, because it's a BlackBerry.... If customers have to start looking at where a device is manufactured or by who, the "brand" has a problem.
BlackBerry should have required some minimum standards by the three licensees.. As well as BBMo should have done the same with the devices they sublicensed to Optiemus (doesn't include the Evolve).05-28-19 04:00 PMLike 0 -
- Seriously, most consumers think BlackBerry went under long ago with the perception of shock that BBMo actually produces BB licensed phones. Nobody outside BB Enterprise markets QNX, EMM, MDM and Cylance even knows the other businesses that BB still operates in or participates in through acquisitions..05-28-19 04:10 PMLike 0
- I'd like to see the Venn diagram of the several thousand device customers and the autonomous auto / radar / corporate UEM customers - particularly in India. Sounds like two circles out of site of each other to me.05-28-19 04:36 PMLike 0
- Seriously, most consumers think BlackBerry went under long ago with the perception of shock that BBMo actually produces BB licensed phones. Nobody outside BB Enterprise markets QNX, EMM, MDM and Cylance even knows the other businesses that BB still operates in or participates in through acquisitions..
If you're buying a device like the Evolve odds are you care about security and might even have a business use for it. If you purchase the Evolve and feel burnt by it, would you recommend any BlackBerry product moving forward (smartphone or otherwise)?
We can use BBM as another example, BlackBerry putting out a separate press release touting BBMe shows that they're aware of the impact that "negative" news could have on the brand and other businesses IMO.
We're fans and enthusiasts so we understand how things work with the different licensees, I don't think the general public (enterprise or otherwise) would necessarily have the same understanding.05-28-19 05:25 PMLike 0 - Enterprise isn't a bubble, consumer tastes overlap which is something BlackBerry Ltd was slow to recognize when they made phones. Why do many CEO's no longer carry BlackBerrys? Why did IT staff stop deploying BlackBerry devices infavor of iOS and Samsung ones? Why are Slack and WhatsApp now the goto messaging app for many businesses and work groups? etc.
If you're buying a device like the Evolve odds are you care about security and might even have a business use for it. If you purchase the Evolve and feel burnt by it, would you recommend any BlackBerry product moving forward (smartphone or otherwise)?
So hypothetically if a licensee dropped the ball with regards to security, do you believe the public would differentiate between BlackBerry and the licensee and no form of damage control would be needed?05-28-19 05:35 PMLike 0 - Enterprise isn't a bubble, consumer tastes overlap which is something BlackBerry Ltd was slow to recognize when they made phones. Why do many CEO's no longer carry BlackBerrys? Why did IT staff stop deploying BlackBerry devices infavor of iOS and Samsung ones? Why are Slack and WhatsApp now the goto messaging app for many businesses and work groups? etc.
If you're buying a device like the Evolve odds are you care about security and might even have a business use for it. If you purchase the Evolve and feel burnt by it, would you recommend any BlackBerry product moving forward (smartphone or otherwise)?
So hypothetically if a licensee dropped the ball with regards to security, do you believe the public would differentiate between BlackBerry and the licensee and no form of damage control would be needed?
We can use BBM as another example, BlackBerry putting out a separate press release touting BBMe shows that they're aware of the impact that "negative" news could have on the brand and other businesses IMO.
We're fans and enthusiasts so we understand how things work with the different licensees, I don't think the general public (enterprise or otherwise) would necessarily have the same understanding.
You're protecting a legendary reputation that exists only in past memories that are irrelevant or largely forgotten.05-28-19 06:26 PMLike 0 - The selling point for a lot of those items is security and the BlackBerry brands reputation for security helps with that. If security on a "BlackBerry" was ever called into question it would naturally impact the brand. We're seeing that now with Huawei, the issue was with their networks but their phones are suffering for it.Jake2826 likes this.05-28-19 06:28 PMLike 1
- The selling point for a lot of those items is security and the BlackBerry brands reputation for security helps with that. If security on a "BlackBerry" was ever called into question it would naturally impact the brand. We're seeing that now with Huawei, the issue was with their networks but their phones are suffering for it.05-28-19 06:32 PMLike 0
- The selling point for a lot of those items is security and the BlackBerry brands reputation for security helps with that. If security on a "BlackBerry" was ever called into question it would naturally impact the brand. We're seeing that now with Huawei, the issue was with their networks but their phones are suffering for it.
Otherwise, TCL has done a good job in the rest of the world in that regard.05-28-19 06:58 PMLike 0 - Of those who do care, most are the aficionados that are very aware of the peculiar licensing arrangements. The remaining uninformed or informed that purchase BlackBerry Enterprise isn't enough to worry about versus the money that Optiemus could waste or TCL could waste on behalf of the other licensees.05-28-19 07:26 PMLike 0
- You can't begin to compare one company that has the global scale and scope that's 100x the size of the other. The larger spends as much in toiletries and bathroom supplies for it's employees in one year as the other has in total sales. Then factor that smaller company spends as much for those same employee supplies for it's employees as the profit generated from it's brand licensing of a shuttered division.
Brands mean something.
For monthly updates and compared to other licensees and even BlackBerry Ltd themselves? Absolutely. Unfortunately, there are many other competitors in the race.05-28-19 07:49 PMLike 0 -
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