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  1. khlover520's Avatar
    Is it an all touch or with a keyboard? Because I've been reading articles with different ideas on what the Argon is. Some say it's an all touch releasing in October while others say it's with a physical keyboard. Many are also saying that the keyboard one is going to be released next, which would mean Argon because that's what's going to be released next.

    I would love to see the one with the physical keyboard device to be generously spec'd!

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    08-02-16 04:38 AM
  2. Uzi's Avatar
    According from German website this would be Argon

    https://bb10qnx.de/2016/07/ist-das-t...ckberry-argon/
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    08-02-16 04:43 AM
  3. khlover520's Avatar
    According from German website this would be Argon

    https://bb10qnx.de/2016/07/ist-das-t...ckberry-argon/
    Interesting pictures! I've definitely never seen those! But it looks just like the DTEK50 except bigger..

    Would you by any chance have any recent leaks of the one with the keyboard?

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    08-02-16 04:50 AM
  4. rajeshr68's Avatar
    Looks like an Alcatel Idol 4S!
    08-02-16 01:15 PM
  5. Centerman66's Avatar
    I agree. I think the whiz bang Argon is a re-branded and software augmented Idol 4S.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android on my Priv
    08-02-16 03:25 PM
  6. ToniCipriani's Avatar
    I agree. I think the whiz bang Argon is a re-branded and software augmented Idol 4S.

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    Looks like an Alcatel Idol 4S!
    Doesn't match up with previous rumours though. Rumour says it gas a 820 lite, Idol 4s has a 652.
    08-02-16 03:41 PM
  7. rajeshr68's Avatar
    Doesn't match up with previous rumours though. Rumour says it gas a 820 lite, Idol 4s has a 652.
    Not saying the Argon is going to be a rebranded 4S, but those pictures do resemble the 4S. The site is probably just guessing as to the look...
    08-02-16 03:47 PM
  8. Centerman66's Avatar
    Doesn't match up with previous rumours though. Rumour says it gas a 820 lite, Idol 4s has a 652.
    I almost mentioned that discrepancy. I hope you are right Toni. Besides the potential lower powered CPU, I am not a fan of the Alcatel cameras

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    08-02-16 05:16 PM
  9. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Doesn't match up with previous rumours though. Rumour says it gas a 820 lite, Idol 4s has a 652.

    Idol 4S Pro uses SD 820 - https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/710256965679763457

    Remember, BlackBerry can jam whatever SoC they want in there, as long as they want to pay for it.

    And here it is running Android - https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benc...testgroup=info
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    08-03-16 11:27 PM
  10. ToniCipriani's Avatar
    Idol 4S Pro uses SD 820 - https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/710256965679763457

    Remember, BlackBerry can jam whatever SoC they want in there, as long as they want to pay for it.

    And here it is running Android - https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benc...testgroup=info
    Well in that case it isn't really "BlackBerry jamming the SoC in" but they are rebadging a different model.

    But then all those damn slates look the same, so what's the difference. \_(ツ)_/
    08-03-16 11:47 PM
  11. Uzi's Avatar
    Idol 4S Pro uses SD 820 - https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/710256965679763457

    Remember, BlackBerry can jam whatever SoC they want in there, as long as they want to pay for it.

    And here it is running Android - https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benc...testgroup=info
    Gfxbench not found?
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    08-03-16 11:49 PM
  12. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Gfxbench not found?
    User error.
    08-04-16 01:28 AM
  13. Uzi's Avatar
    Haha cb App not properly display the link
    08-04-16 02:06 AM
  14. BBd00d's Avatar
    Doesn't match up with previous rumours though. Rumour says it gas a 820 lite, Idol 4s has a 652.
    It's possible that they will use the 4S as a reference device but since they use custom chips, maybe going with something different than the standard issue 4S chipset. Afterall, they want a flagship to replace Priv, so this might be one way to do it.

    EDIT: according to the course below, the 'TCL 950' sports a snapdragon 820 and might be sold seperate from its Alcatel 4S sister device. Specs all match up except for Processor and storage. Maybe BlackBerry will use the TCL 950 as a reference device?

    Source: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016...ces-china.html


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    08-04-16 06:17 AM
  15. khlover520's Avatar
    So is Mercury also going to be a rebranded Chinese phone?

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    08-04-16 06:18 AM
  16. BBd00d's Avatar
    So is Mercury also going to be a rebranded Chinese phone?

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    Probably going to be manufactured elsewhere like all the others, but designed by BlackBerry. It won't be a reference design like all the others, since no one makes an off the shelf template for pkb devices, so manufactured to BlackBerry specs, but not reference design

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    08-04-16 06:29 AM
  17. khlover520's Avatar
    Probably going to be manufactured elsewhere like all the others, but designed by BlackBerry. It won't be a reference design like all the others, since no one makes an off the shelf template for pkb devices, so manufactured to BlackBerry specs, but not reference design

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    The rumors say the Mercury will be the most premium device out of the three. So I'm guessing this device will be made by BlackBerry themselves, hopefully.

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    08-04-16 07:46 AM
  18. Burton79's Avatar
    Really hopeful that this has a carrier release by oct.

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    08-04-16 09:38 AM
  19. Randy Spear's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure the mercury is mid range specs too (slightly better than dtek 50) but the materials will likely be premium.

    I was waiting for the argon until i realized it was made by tcl too. the reviews for the idol 4s say the fingerprint scanner is awful. (that's the nail in the coffin for me)
    08-04-16 12:49 PM
  20. Burton79's Avatar
    Im hopeful for a red blinker, the BlackBerry software package, and a decent camera. Of course good price is important too. DTEK looked like it was priced alright so something inline with the higher specs being used would also work for me.

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    08-04-16 01:02 PM
  21. Avenzuno's Avatar
    The rumors say the Mercury will be the most premium device out of the three. So I'm guessing this device will be made by BlackBerry themselves, hopefully.

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    Well, BlackBerry has outsourced the manufacturing of its BB10 phones to outfits like Foxconn. As you know, the DTEK 50 is based upon an Acatel reference design, and also happens to be manufactured by Acatel. I for one, would not mind Acatel making the Mercury, so long as the PKB device is designed solely by BlackBerry, and hopefully includes its best PKB, which is the Classic one.

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    08-05-16 12:19 AM
  22. llamax's Avatar
    950 has the lame 1080p screen vs the Priv's QHD screen.

    Hope BB ups the screen to match at QHD instead of sliding in with the stock 1080p travesty.
    08-05-16 04:08 AM
  23. Uzi's Avatar
    950 has the lame 1080p screen vs the Priv's QHD screen.

    Hope BB ups the screen to match at QHD instead of sliding in with the stock 1080p travesty.
    It's mid range lol
    08-05-16 04:28 AM
  24. aespix's Avatar
    Oh my goodnes, you telling me the argon is another cheap ripoff from alcatel?

    Sorry I won't be spending my money on that.

    This is the direction the company is heading into? Just rebranding things? I'm sure alcatel and blackberry have some sort of deal about profit splits or so.

    That argon looks ugly, so too the dtek50.

    I'm not hating but it's clear the priv might be the last blackberryfied smartphone ever made. So the press wasn't too wrong on that one.

    Shameful. I'm not impressed.

    This post just killed it for me.
    08-05-16 05:13 AM
  25. BBd00d's Avatar
    Oh my goodnes, you telling me the argon is another cheap ripoff from alcatel?

    Sorry I won't be spending my money on that.

    This is the direction the company is heading into? Just rebranding things? I'm sure alcatel and blackberry have some sort of deal about profit splits or so.

    That argon looks ugly, so too the dtek50.

    I'm not hating but it's clear the priv might be the last blackberryfied smartphone ever made. So the press wasn't too wrong on that one.

    Shameful. I'm not impressed.

    This post just killed it for me.
    Looks are subjective, I like how it looks personally. Secondly, DTEK50 and Argon are not rebranded, they are customized...there is a difference. With Alcatel, you won't get the monthly security patches, hardware root of trust, or the blackberry software productivity customizations. For me, yes, those things matter, but for you, if you don't place value on things like that, there are a plethora of other choices out there.

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    08-05-16 08:41 AM
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