1. Thiesi's Avatar
    Why? Since you can't buy the phone without paying VAT it really doesn't matter how much it is without taxes. All that counts is the final price - and if that is 599 � in Germany then it's going to be yet another overpriced BBRY launch.

    Posted via CB10
    10-19-16 04:34 PM
  2. Julesan's Avatar
    Launch ... but what about announcement. Normally companies announce a product before launch. Crickets from BlackBerry's offices.

    Posted via CB10
    10-19-16 04:39 PM
  3. conite's Avatar
    Launch ... but what about announcement. Normally companies announce a product before launch. Crickets from BlackBerry's offices.

    Posted via CB10
    I've always been of the opinion that when you announce a device, you should have the product available.
    10-19-16 04:46 PM
  4. London_Call_Me's Avatar
    BlackBerry wants to outdo Apple, release it first, and then announce. The new standard..

    Posted via CB10
    mikedolo, mago72 and techvisor like this.
    10-19-16 04:46 PM
  5. so crow's Avatar
    So the battery problems have been sorted then that's good.
    10-19-16 05:02 PM
  6. HaberNik's Avatar
    So the battery problems have been sorted then that's good.
    Stop!!! Lol.

    Posted via CB10
    10-19-16 05:38 PM
  7. Willieray3's Avatar
    Any word on if it will come with any accessories?

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    10-19-16 05:41 PM
  8. si001's Avatar
    Launch ... but what about announcement. Normally companies announce a product before launch. Crickets from BlackBerry's offices.

    Posted via CB10
    Business as usual.
    10-19-16 05:55 PM
  9. laid-back's Avatar
    I'm still hoping for an announcement. The price in Europe seems a little high though. But at least we have a 2016 release date

    Posted via the handsome BlackBerry PRIV
    10-19-16 07:07 PM
  10. CranksterBB10's Avatar
    BlackBerry wants to outdo Apple, release it first, and then announce. The new standard..

    Posted via CB10
    Now that is a strategy!

    Posted via CB10
    10-19-16 08:11 PM
  11. AmritD's Avatar
    It's accurate. Unless BlackBerry changes their mind once again.
    What do you think about the price?
    599 euros is about $657!
    (I don't know about the taxation structures of Europe)

    Z30STA100-2/10.3.2.2876
    10-19-16 09:44 PM
  12. Bla1ze's Avatar
    What do you think about the price?
    599 euros is about $657!
    (I don't know about the taxation structures of Europe)

    Z30STA100-2/10.3.2.2876
    Won't be buying from EU, so kinda hard to care and direct conversion to USD doesn't make sense anyway as they're always priced per market. There's always variances there plus the inclusion of VAT vs. state taxes.
    10-19-16 09:56 PM
  13. Thiesi's Avatar
    The price is way too high. Cheapest CAD price was 632 which would equal about 440 €. Now add 20% for taxes and you'll be at 529 €. That's the price I was expecting. Now MediaMarkt is not known to be particularly cheap but somehow I doubt it will be sold for 70 € less somewhere else.
    10-19-16 09:57 PM
  14. AmritD's Avatar
    Won't be buying from EU, so kinda hard to care and direct conversion to USD doesn't make sense anyway as they're always priced per market. There's always variances there plus the inclusion of VAT vs. state taxes.
    Thanks! (y)
    BlackBerry sure did push their marketing but only the software
    We can expect something for the phone around launch in the WSJ and Financial Times? *just curious*

    Z30STA100-2/10.3.2.2876
    10-19-16 10:04 PM
  15. Karan Riar's Avatar
    Blackberry gave an ad on wall Street journal about their software offerings and how software is the new blackberry,but nothing about the new handset that's going to release in a week. Ladies n gentlemen that's Mr Chen the ceo of blackberry for you.

    The Living Legend- Babbu Maan.
    techvisor likes this.
    10-19-16 11:41 PM
  16. mutigbeere's Avatar
    Since you can't buy the phone without paying VAT it really doesn't matter

    Posted via CB10
    Sure you can. Just buy it in Delaware.
    10-20-16 01:14 AM
  17. Thiesi's Avatar
    No, that doesn't help as the VAT will still be collected upon importing it to the EU. That just avoids double taxation.

    EDIT: Sorry, you're right of course - if you buy it in Delaware and don't export it to anywhere, then you'll have entirely avoided all VAT. But that's really just a very small percentage of folks who can do that.
    Last edited by Thiesi; 10-20-16 at 01:40 AM.
    10-20-16 01:22 AM
  18. mcne2001's Avatar
    Won't be buying from EU, so kinda hard to care and direct conversion to USD doesn't make sense anyway as they're always priced per market. There's always variances there plus the inclusion of VAT vs. state taxes.
    So in Switzerland it will be CHF999.--, priced for Swiss customers....

    :-)


    Posted via CB10
    10-20-16 01:53 AM
  19. Matty's Avatar
    2016

    Posted via CB10
    Only on a Blackberry Forum would the year of the release date be more important than the day and month ^_^

    Ah this made me laugh.
    brian4591 likes this.
    10-20-16 02:16 AM
  20. gng11's Avatar
    Both, I'm guessing. I doubt there will be a pre-order period.
    Apple does both, excitement and "immediate" availability.
    10-20-16 02:25 AM
  21. gng11's Avatar
    Apple's MacBook Pro rumoured release date is Oct. 27th, not sure if this is coincidential or purely Apple trying to steal the fire.
    https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAja1K5?m=en-ca
    10-20-16 02:35 AM
  22. JeepBB's Avatar
    Apple's MacBook Pro rumoured release date is Oct. 27th, not sure if this is coincidential or purely Apple trying to steal the fire.
    https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAja1K5?m=en-ca
    I really doubt that Apple factors what BB are doing into their decision-making ... at all!

    To Apple, BB are an irrelevance, and have been for years.
    techvisor likes this.
    10-20-16 04:48 AM
  23. Vampiro's Avatar
    So in Switzerland it will be CHF999.--, priced for Swiss customers....

    :-)


    Posted via CB10
    Swiss prices in tech are always lower than EU market since they only have 8% Tax.........


    btw. first third party accessories start popping up at amazon DE
    Last edited by Vampiro; 10-20-16 at 05:43 AM.
    10-20-16 05:08 AM
  24. Pinot2015's Avatar
    I really doubt that Apple factors what BB are doing into their decision-making ... at all!

    To Apple, BB are an irrelevance, and have been for years.
    ^^^^^ exactly this for the hardware consumer market.

    Posted via my DTEK50
    10-20-16 06:40 AM
  25. mutigbeere's Avatar
    Apple's MacBook Pro rumoured release date is Oct. 27th, not sure if this is coincidential or purely Apple trying to steal the fire.
    I definitely think it is Apple trying to steal BlackBerry's thunder ;-)
    10-20-16 07:03 AM
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