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  1. jay64's Avatar
    I notice since outsourcing their hardware BB is not specifying what antennae is being used on their new models. It would be nice if we knew whether each model has a Paratek installed or not. Clear call quality was a big BB hardware advantage and Paratek was a big part of the reason why.
    10-25-16 03:26 PM
  2. RichardAitch's Avatar
    Ok, here is what may be a very bone question; I have just ordered it on BlackBerry UK. It's being shipped to the UK from the US. Will it work on Vodafone?

    Cheers
    10-25-16 03:31 PM
  3. aecgda's Avatar
    Thanks. Will the sim from my Priv fit into the DTEK60?
    10-25-16 03:36 PM
  4. Christopher Cordray's Avatar
    Two questions more related to BBM but thought I'd take a chance and ask anyway....

    Any plans on introducing E2ee for BBM as a feature available to users who aren't in an EMM environment?

    How often is general encryption key for BBM changed by BlackBerry?

    If you can't answer these or want these moved to different thread I understand...
    10-25-16 03:37 PM
  5. BB-JAM215's Avatar
    Size is not far off Z30. Width is close. D60 a bit taller
    The DTEK60 is about 1/2 inch taller than the Z30:
    Attached Thumbnails DTEK60 questions?-dtek60-dtek50-z30.jpg  
    Egod101 likes this.
    10-25-16 03:38 PM
  6. conite's Avatar
    Thanks. Will the sim from my Priv fit into the DTEK60?
    Yes. Both nano.
    10-25-16 03:38 PM
  7. conite's Avatar
    Two questions more related to BBM but thought I'd take a chance and ask anyway....

    Any plans on introducing E2ee for BBM as a feature available to users who aren't in an EMM environment?

    How often is general encryption key for BBM changed by BlackBerry?

    If you can't answer these or want these moved to different thread I understand...
    I use BBM Protected without being on a BES. $42/yr CDN.
    10-25-16 03:39 PM
  8. conite's Avatar
    Thanks.
    I think Bla1ze and DeeJayBB have both the phones. I'd like to know how does it feel in hand? Does it feel too big compared to dtek50?
    You're asking the BlackBerry guy if it feels "too big" ?
    10-25-16 03:40 PM
  9. aecgda's Avatar
    Yes. Both nano.
    Thanks.
    10-25-16 03:46 PM
  10. Pcmx's Avatar
    Utterly irrelevant question, but does DTEK actually mean anything? Is it an acronym or just 4 random letters?
    I think it means it detects things. Detects-ick-sty

    Posted via CB10
    Mirko935 likes this.
    10-25-16 03:50 PM
  11. ToniCipriani's Avatar
    Ok, here is what may be a very bone question; I have just ordered it on BlackBerry UK. It's being shipped to the UK from the US. Will it work on Vodafone?

    Cheers
    I think the UK version is actually different hardware, so could be locally shipped or at least a distributor in Europe.
    RichardAitch likes this.
    10-25-16 04:09 PM
  12. Willieray3's Avatar
    The DTEK60 is about 1/2 inch taller than the Z30:
    The Z30 was the best!
    tonythecanuck likes this.
    10-25-16 04:10 PM
  13. Bertie Bear's Avatar
    Glad to see the red notification is back, but does the bundled leather pouch for UK buyers have the red stitching?
    10-25-16 04:23 PM
  14. aecgda's Avatar
    I think the UK version is actually different hardware, so could be locally shipped or at least a distributor in Europe.
    I'm sure it will. That's what I'll be doing. I have a Vodafone sim. Good deal with the data.
    RichardAitch likes this.
    10-25-16 04:26 PM
  15. RDZONE99's Avatar
    Ok, here is what may be a very bone question; I have just ordered it on BlackBerry UK. It's being shipped to the UK from the US. Will it work on Vodafone?

    Cheers
    When will you have it delivered? I'm thinking to order mine but prefer to see it first.
    10-25-16 04:37 PM
  16. DeeJayBB's Avatar
    No
    Hello,

    I just loaded up a fresh device without Google services... you can:

    1. make a phone call
    2. use BlackBerry apps such as Hub, Calendar, Notes etc.
    3. take pictures and store them on the device.
    4. View pictures
    5. Browse the web using Chrome
    6. Chat via SMS and BBM
    7. Change the wallpaper

    Loading apps would not be possible unless you sideload them or download .apk files off the web (which i highly do not recommend)

    so yes you can definitely use the phone without Google services. You just miss out on back up, syncing, services, apps etc.
    10-25-16 05:21 PM
  17. DeeJayBB's Avatar
    Thanks.
    I think Bla1ze and DeeJayBB have both the phones. I'd like to know how does it feel in hand? Does it feel too big compared to dtek50?
    I am holding a DTEK50 and DTEK60 right now and it is not that much of a difference (for me)

    the width of the device size difference is so minimal you dont notice anything and the height of the device does not make a difference.

    both devices feel very good in hand.
    10-25-16 05:31 PM
  18. Cortizo5's Avatar
    Wireless charging??

    Posted via CB10
    10-25-16 05:33 PM
  19. DeeJayBB's Avatar
    Ok, here is what may be a very bone question; I have just ordered it on BlackBerry UK. It's being shipped to the UK from the US. Will it work on Vodafone?

    Cheers
    I am not the network band guru so i will be deferring your question to a colleague and get back to you. Looking at the network bands for Europe it should work on Voda. But i want to confirm before i replay with an answer.

    stay tuned.
    RichardAitch likes this.
    10-25-16 05:36 PM
  20. mutigbeere's Avatar
    Wireless charging??

    Posted via CB10
    No
    10-25-16 05:37 PM
  21. vhl71's Avatar
    I am holding a DTEK50 and DTEK60 right now and it is not that much of a difference (for me)

    the width of the device size difference is so minimal you dont notice anything and the height of the device does not make a difference.

    both devices feel very good in hand.
    Thanks - that helps
    So I might sell my dtek50 and order a dtek60.
    So anyone who wants a detek50 which is in very good condition pm me. We can work out something
    10-25-16 05:41 PM
  22. DeeJayBB's Avatar
    Two questions more related to BBM but thought I'd take a chance and ask anyway....

    Any plans on introducing E2ee for BBM as a feature available to users who aren't in an EMM environment?

    How often is general encryption key for BBM changed by BlackBerry?

    If you can't answer these or want these moved to different thread I understand...
    I unfortunately do not work on anything BBM related, but i do know the team and i have forwarded your questions to see what answers they can provide (if any)

    Thanks,
    10-25-16 05:42 PM
  23. Resilience's Avatar
    Two questions more related to BBM but thought I'd take a chance and ask anyway....

    Any plans on introducing E2ee for BBM as a feature available to users who aren't in an EMM environment?

    How often is general encryption key for BBM changed by BlackBerry?

    If you can't answer these or want these moved to different thread I understand...
    Do not use BBM as a secure route of communications, they are not open source and use a weak encryption.

    Signal is the gold standard for messaging.
    10-25-16 05:51 PM
  24. conite's Avatar
    Do not use BBM as a secure route of communications, they are not open source and use a weak encryption.

    Signal is the gold standard for messaging.
    He's asking about BBM Protected without BES. I have it. It is full E2E encryption.
    10-25-16 06:08 PM
  25. Resilience's Avatar
    He's asking about BBM Protected without BES. I have it. It is full E2E encryption.
    Still not open source which can not be audited.
    10-25-16 06:22 PM
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