Sure do, little late..but we sure get it now.
But in the courts, it is still BlackBerry.. You brand it, you own it!
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Sure do, little late..but we sure get it now.
But in the courts, it is still BlackBerry.. You brand it, you own it!
Yes, BlackBerry has sought an exit strategy for devices. They no longer make them, and they are trying to extract value from their software through licensing.
TCL, on the other hand, genuinely seems quite excited about the opportunity. I'm pretty confident that they're going to stick around for a while.
If you feel better holding TCL to account for BlackBerry's prior faults, then go for it. I just don't find it a very useful exercise.
They did NOT exit hardware.
They simply changed to a licensing strategy because it was more efficient to have someone else build them.
Their logo is clearly still all over existing hardware sales.
No amount of excuse making can change that.
It's still really simple... ya might get it soon.
No, they are completely out of the device business. They are simply trying to extract some small value out of the Blackberry Android software by licensing it to others. They're also trying to make a few bucks out of their brand name as well. But it stops there.
Then why were the Dtek series, and K1 Marketed, Branded, Warrantied, and sold by BlackBerry, Not BlackBerry made by TCL?
Just like when you're consulting for a company, they may even give you an email address and cubicle, but you're not an employee...you decide what you're going to do, when you're going to do it and EXIT anytime you'd like....
There's various levels with outsourcing and they've chosen the extreme with licensing. They have no legal obligation to back up anything BBMo does. They have to honor remaining warranties for PRIV/DTEK hardware sold recently.
If you think it's more, sue them, although I'm sure they'll out legal you with the law and out lawyer you with the bodies. Fairfax/Prem and the other institutional shareholders are pretty good with that sort of thing.
You're not correct.
The Priv and DTEKs were BlackBerry devices, and sold and distributed by BlackBerry. They are also out of production and no longer available.
The KEYᵒⁿᵉ is a TCL (BlackBerry Mobile) device - sold and distributed by TCL. www.blackberrymobile.com
Maybe true, but once a good class action gets rolling it is hard to stop once the bottom feeder lawyers join together. Just think out loud here, just a really poor ways to exit the business that's all. Might be a good thing once there isn't a BB logo on any of the phones TCL manufacturer's, then all can move on from BlackBerry.
Another thought.... Does anyone know what CB plans to do once the BB logo ceases to exist on hardware.
TCL made the Dtek series, right?
The DTEK60 was made by TCL. It was also released after BB announced they were exiting the Device business.
So are you saying that from day 1 we should have assumed that BlackBerry wouldn't support it because they had already exited the business? Or should we listen to the marketing that is still on their website that states they will provide updates and secure the device.
They only did the manufacturing for BlackBerry. Much like Wistron built the Priv and Passport.
So the answer is yes I take it.
The PRIV was designed by BlackBerry, was it not? The DTEK phones used reference designs previously used by TCL. So it is similar, but BlackBerry had much more input into the design of the PRIV, right?
They are supporting it. You're just not getting Nougat.
The PRIV was designed by BlackBerry, was it not? The DTEK phones used reference designs previously used by TCL. So it is similar, but BlackBerry had much more input into the design of the PRIV, right?
BlackBerry worked off TCL reference designs for the DTEK hardware, yes.
They figured that would be cheaper, and make the devices more affordable than designing from scratch.
Are they? Not to the degree that they promote on their website, and not to the degree that has been expected considering they are "first-in-class"
More apologist talk from conite. Not surprising.
In addition, the most secure thing would be to update to Nougat, but that won't happen.
Amen, defender and chief of BB and CB!
You flat out said they "weren't" supporting it. I said they were, but I did not specify as to what degree.
Warranty support and monthly patches sufficiently qualify as a measurable level of support - so your statement is incorrect.
well, until we get an update for June or July, the support I am seeing is zero since I got the May update.
That is how I view it.
Warranty support is a legal obligation. I won't even consider that.
Not that it has a single thing to do with our discussion.
It does to me. I am not happy with my experience with a TCL built BlackBerry phone. Therefore TCL and BlackBerry have a negative perception in my mind. Even if the legal lines you draw with regard to the DTEK60 mean I should only be mad at BlackBerry.
Fair enough.
Sure it does, with your bias it has everything to do with it.
I'm also saying that if they want to sell software like they say, said software must be used somewhere. Sure if they sell /license their software to TCL as an example they can just take the money and not care what they do with it but technically that will be their last sale, as TCL does not seem to care about repeat customers either. I say it sounds like an exit strategy but it makes no sense to me