10-26-16 06:53 AM
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  1. jdr6000's Avatar
    I am not tech savvy. Can someone layout the tech differences between what the Priv has under the hood as compared to what is rumored to make up the Dtek 60?

    Thanks

    Posted via CB10
    09-24-16 01:46 PM
  2. thurask's Avatar
    DTEK60:
    5.5" diagonal, 534 PPI, 2560 x 1440 Quad HD resolution
    Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 64-bit Quad-Core (MSM8996 with 64 bit Quad-Core 2+2 Kryo 2.15GHz / 1.6GHz), Adreno 530, 624MHz GPU
    4 GB RAM, 32 GB Flash, SD card slot
    USB Type-C
    3000 mAh 4.4V non-removable Lithium-Ion battery QC3.0 Enabled
    21-megapixel auto-focus rear camera
    8-megapixel Fixed-Focus front camera
    Fingerprint sensor
    Convenience key
    Virtual keyboard

    Priv:
    5.4" diagonal, 540 PPI, 2560 x 1440 Quad HD resolution
    Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 64-bit Hexa-Core (MSM8992 with 64 bit Hexa-Core 2 Cortex-A57 1.8GHz + 4 Cortex-A53 1.4 GHz), Adreno 418, 600MHz GPU
    3 GB RAM, 32 GB Flash, SD card slot
    Micro USB 2.0
    3410 mAh 4.4V non-removable Lithium-Ion battery QC2.0 Enabled
    18-megapixel auto-focus rear camera
    2-megapixel Fixed-Focus front camera
    Virtual + physical keyboards

    So the DTEK60 has a slightly larger screen, better CPU, an extra gig of RAM, the new port standard, a slightly smaller battery, better cameras and no physical keyboard.
    09-24-16 02:12 PM
  3. vagos2006's Avatar
    Looks good but they should put a bigger battery in the DTEK60. Has bigger screen, more power than the Priv and the Priv has a bigger battery. That doesn't make sense. The Z30 Has a 2880mah and its only 5" screen. I don't think 3000mah will get you through a day. Anyone else agree or it just me?

    Posted via CB10
    09-24-16 11:40 PM
  4. Uzi's Avatar
    I hope they make DTEK 60 curve screen edition, wishful thinking 💭.....
    Nels and onlyoneromeo like this.
    09-24-16 11:57 PM
  5. Plazmic Flame's Avatar
    I hope they make DTEK 60 curve screen edition, wishful thinking ��.....
    Why do you want that though? I've still yet to hear a valid reason for having a curved screen...
    09-25-16 01:26 AM
  6. Uzi's Avatar
    Why do you want that though? I've still yet to hear a valid reason for having a curved screen...
    My eyes get used to curve screen can't go back to normal screen
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    09-25-16 02:03 AM
  7. jalx's Avatar
    Why do you want that though? I've still yet to hear a valid reason for having a curved screen...
    Because it makes the phone look and feel more sleek

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
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    09-25-16 03:17 AM
  8. jdr6000's Avatar
    Thanks

    Posted via CB10
    09-25-16 07:47 AM
  9. Plazmic Flame's Avatar
    My eyes get used to curve screen can't go back to normal screen
    Because it makes the phone look and feel more sleek

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    Aaaaand... we're still at square one here, lol. Still not buying the reason for a curved screen.

    Personally, I find it pointless. It's a terrible typing experience, especially if you have to hit keys on the edge of the screen where it curves down. That's not ergonomic or anything, it's a step backwards. While BlackBerry did that nonsense on the PRIV, I'm glad they didn't do that on the DTEK50 and I hope we don't ever see it again.
    09-25-16 10:33 AM
  10. conite's Avatar
    DTEK60 will not have a curved screen.

    Just look at the Alcatel 4S / Alcatel 4 Pro / TCL950.
    09-25-16 10:41 AM
  11. Adif_701's Avatar
    Curved glass not screen. That's what I am expecting. Similar to original Passport. Soft edge.

    Posted via CB10
    09-25-16 10:43 AM
  12. Centerman66's Avatar
    DTEK60:
    5.5" diagonal, 534 PPI, 2560 x 1440 Quad HD resolution
    Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 64-bit Quad-Core (MSM8996 with 64 bit Quad-Core 2+2 Kryo 2.15GHz / 1.6GHz), Adreno 530, 624MHz GPU
    4 GB RAM, 32 GB Flash, SD card slot
    USB Type-C
    3000 mAh 4.4V non-removable Lithium-Ion battery QC3.0 Enabled
    21-megapixel auto-focus rear camera
    8-megapixel Fixed-Focus front camera
    Fingerprint sensor
    Convenience key
    Virtual keyboard

    Priv:
    5.4" diagonal, 540 PPI, 2560 x 1440 Quad HD resolution
    Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 64-bit Hexa-Core (MSM8992 with 64 bit Hexa-Core 2 Cortex-A57 1.8GHz + 4 Cortex-A53 1.4 GHz), Adreno 418, 600MHz GPU
    3 GB RAM, 32 GB Flash, SD card slot
    Micro USB 2.0
    3410 mAh 4.4V non-removable Lithium-Ion battery QC2.0 Enabled
    18-megapixel auto-focus rear camera
    2-megapixel Fixed-Focus front camera
    Virtual + physical keyboards

    So the DTEK60 has a slightly larger screen, better CPU, an extra gig of RAM, the new port standard, a slightly smaller battery, better cameras and no physical keyboard.
    Higher resolution does not make for a better camera. Unless there are more reason for you making this conclusion, in which case, please share.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android on my Priv
    Last edited by Centerman66; 09-25-16 at 01:18 PM.
    09-25-16 12:33 PM
  13. thurask's Avatar
    Higher resolution does not make for a better camera. Unless there are more reason for you making this conclusion. I'm which case, please share.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android on my Priv
    Front camera alone, but I'll pull up the camera sections:

    DTEK60:

    Rear Camera
    21 megapixel auto-focus camera
    4K video recording at 30 fps
    720p HD video recording at 120 fps
    Phase Detect Auto Focus (PDAF), Fast focus lock
    HDR
    6-element f2.0 lens
    Dual Tone LED Flash – Enhanced photo color balance
    4x digital zoom
    Continuous & touch to focus, face detection, video image stabilization
    Panorama, Burst, Live Filters
    Multi-frame Low Light Enhancement

    Front Camera
    8MP Fixed-Focus, f2.2
    1.125um pixel size
    84˚ wide angle/field of view lens
    HDR, Live Filters, video image stabilization
    Image & video stabilisation
    1080p HD video recording at 30 fps
    Selfie Flash
    Wide Selfie Mode (also known as Selfie Panorama)
    Multi-Frame Low Light Enhancement

    Priv:

    Rear Camera:
    18 megapixel auto-focus camera
    Optical Image Stabilization (OIS)
    Phase Detect Auto Focus (PDAF), Fast focus lock
    HDR
    6-element f2.2 lens
    Back Side Illumination (BSI2) Stacked Sensor
    Dual Color, Dual 2 mm2 LED Flash – Enhanced photo color balance
    4X digital zoom
    Continuous & touch to focus, face detection, image stabilization
    Panorama, Burst, Live Filters
    4k Video Recording at 30 fps
    1080p HD video recording at 60 fps
    6DOF video stabilization combined with OIS for incredibly smooth video

    Front Camera:
    2MP Fixed-Focus, f2.8
    Large 1.75um pixel size
    Image & video stabilization
    720p HD video recording
    2X digital zoom
    Wide Selfie Mode (also known as Selfie Panorama)
    Multi-Frame Low Light Enhancement

    The only uncertainty is OIS on the DTEK60's rear camera, but given that the only Alcatel Idol 4-type device with a 21MP rear camera is the unreleased TCL 950, that has to be figured out later.
    09-25-16 01:17 PM
  14. Centerman66's Avatar
    Front camera alone, but I'll pull up the camera sections:

    DTEK60:

    Rear Camera
    21 megapixel auto-focus camera
    4K video recording at 30 fps
    720p HD video recording at 120 fps
    Phase Detect Auto Focus (PDAF), Fast focus lock
    HDR
    6-element f2.0 lens
    Dual Tone LED Flash Enhanced photo color balance
    4x digital zoom
    Continuous & touch to focus, face detection, video image stabilization
    Panorama, Burst, Live Filters
    Multi-frame Low Light Enhancement

    Front Camera
    8MP Fixed-Focus, f2.2
    1.125um pixel size
    84˚ wide angle/field of view lens
    HDR, Live Filters, video image stabilization
    Image & video stabilisation
    1080p HD video recording at 30 fps
    Selfie Flash
    Wide Selfie Mode (also known as Selfie Panorama)
    Multi-Frame Low Light Enhancement

    Priv:

    Rear Camera:
    18 megapixel auto-focus camera
    Optical Image Stabilization (OIS)
    Phase Detect Auto Focus (PDAF), Fast focus lock
    HDR
    6-element f2.2 lens
    Back Side Illumination (BSI2) Stacked Sensor
    Dual Color, Dual 2 mm2 LED Flash Enhanced photo color balance
    4X digital zoom
    Continuous & touch to focus, face detection, image stabilization
    Panorama, Burst, Live Filters
    4k Video Recording at 30 fps
    1080p HD video recording at 60 fps
    6DOF video stabilization combined with OIS for incredibly smooth video

    Front Camera:
    2MP Fixed-Focus, f2.8
    Large 1.75um pixel size
    Image & video stabilization
    720p HD video recording
    2X digital zoom
    Wide Selfie Mode (also known as Selfie Panorama)
    Multi-Frame Low Light Enhancement

    The only uncertainty is OIS on the DTEK60's rear camera, but given that the only Alcatel Idol 4-type device with a 21MP rear camera is the unreleased TCL 950, that has to be figured out later.
    Thanks for taking the time to provide these details. I hope the DTEK60 camera is at least as good if not better than the Priv camera.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android on my Priv
    09-25-16 01:19 PM
  15. redantz's Avatar
    Will the DTEK have optical or digital stabilisation?

    Posted via CB10
    09-25-16 07:38 PM
  16. conite's Avatar
    Will the DTEK have optical or digital stabilisation?

    Posted via CB10
    Not confirmed, but my guess is that it won't have OIS.

    On the plus side, it has a lower f-stop, and higher MP.
    09-25-16 07:40 PM
  17. gng11's Avatar
    Also critical is the sharpness of detail and colour.
    09-25-16 09:48 PM
  18. Fastmarc's Avatar
    Not confirmed, but my guess is that it won't have OIS.

    On the plus side, it has a lower f-stop, and higher MP.
    The wider aperture is a plus.
    The higher MP not necessarily so.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    09-25-16 10:37 PM
  19. CharlieV's Avatar
    The 820 is so much faster and smoother than the 808. I'm using both at the moment. One in a Priv and the other in an s7 edge. No comparison. Also, it the 820 stays much cooler. I'm not sure about battery consumption but it is disappointing that the DTEK 60 doesn't have a bigger battery than the Priv.

    Also, it is unfortunate that the DTEK 60 specs don't mention the antennas. Priv has an excellent antenna on the GSM version. Stellar. I don't know what the Priv had until after I bought it, several months after release. Got lucky.

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    09-25-16 10:58 PM
  20. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    If you want a keyboard... get the PRIV.

    Unless the difference in price is an issue, I would say the DTEK60 "specs" are a going to make it a much better choice.
    09-26-16 08:51 AM
  21. vagos2006's Avatar
    The 820 is so much faster and smoother than the 808. I'm using both at the moment. One in a Priv and the other in an s7 edge. No comparison. Also, it the 820 stays much cooler. I'm not sure about battery consumption but it is disappointing that the DTEK 60 doesn't have a bigger battery than the Priv.

    Also, it is unfortunate that the DTEK 60 specs don't mention the antennas. Priv has an excellent antenna on the GSM version. Stellar. I don't know what the Priv had until after I bought it, several months after release. Got lucky.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    The DTEK60 needs a bigger battery than the Priv. 3000mah is not going to cut it for a high end device like the DTEK60. It has a bigger screen, more CPU power. I don't know what BlackBerry is thinking. I don't think that will be enough juice to make it through the day or I might be wrong. I don't know.

    Posted via CB10
    09-26-16 09:50 AM
  22. conite's Avatar
    The DTEK60 needs a bigger battery than the Priv. 3000mah is not going to cut it for a high end device like the DTEK60. It has a bigger screen, more CPU power. I don't know what BlackBerry is thinking. I don't think that will be enough juice to make it through the day or I might be wrong. I don't know.

    Posted via CB10
    It's supposed to last 7% longer than the Priv. And unless I'm killing aliens or watching midget wrestling, I easily get through the day with the Priv.
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    09-26-16 09:58 AM
  23. Matty's Avatar
    Looks good but they should put a bigger battery in the DTEK60. Has bigger screen, more power than the Priv and the Priv has a bigger battery. That doesn't make sense. The Z30 Has a 2880mah and its only 5" screen. I don't think 3000mah will get you through a day. Anyone else agree or it just me?

    Posted via CB10
    Unfortunately, Blackberry does not decide the battery size. Its a rumoured 'reference' design. so they just tweak the externals and make it look 'better' and the internals stay the same. Just like the DTEK50 it has the same battery as the Alcatel Idol 4
    09-26-16 10:38 AM
  24. Centerman66's Avatar
    It's supposed to last 7% longer than the Priv. And unless I'm killing aliens or watching midget wrestling, I easily get through the day with the Priv.
    Watching midget wrestling is definitely taxing on one's device....but so worthwhile....
    09-26-16 10:42 AM
  25. vagos2006's Avatar
    It's supposed to last 7% longer than the Priv. And unless I'm killing aliens or watching midget wrestling, I easily get through the day with the Priv.
    Oh I didn't know that. 7% longer with a smaller battery than the Priv. How so, if you don't mind me asking?

    Posted via CB10
    09-26-16 10:44 AM
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