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- People ask BlackBerry; BlackBerry answers; imo is the normal way to communicate. Not answering is just odd.
Posted via CB1006-15-17 02:48 PMLike 0 -
For the sake of argument, if, in fact, they have already decided NOT to release N, what is the business case behind making a press release about it? Wouldn't it probably hurt more than help?06-15-17 03:00 PMLike 0 - Does it even matter? I finally got my hands on a working KeyOne demo unit running Nougat, and at first I couldn't even tell that it was an upgraded OS...and by the way, while the design of the KeyOne looks good in pictures, actually holding the device in hand, the first impression was of a cheap looking, cheaply made and assembled device. It might have the BlackBerry logo on the back but it surely isn't a BlackBerry device...
I prefer my redesigned, repurposed, recycled Alcatel Idol 4...aka the DTEK50...06-15-17 08:47 PMLike 0 - Staying silent is not helping BB's credability here. Their reputation is poor at the moment anyway, and people are getting jittery as to where this is going.
If BB are deserting Dteks already, after less than a year, what is to say that they wil not do the same to Keyone?? BB's past is catching up with them, and owners have a right to know where BB stands regarding support for it's products. a 'life' of 12 months or so for Dtek's is not going to convince others to buy Keyone, that's for sure.
Regarding 'being from a different manufacturer' the phones are still 'Blackberry' labelled, and as such, mud sticks..BB need to clarify the situation, for EVERYBODY's sake. both existing users, and prospective new one's, otherwise the confusion will not make anything better, just worse, as people speculate!!
BB are a toxic firm to many at the present, and they will not buy without assurances that they will not be 'dumped' inside a year, as Dtek owners have been!!xandros9 likes this.06-16-17 03:08 AMLike 1 - Staying silent is not helping BB's credability here. Their reputation is poor at the moment anyway, and people are getting jittery as to where this is going.
If BB are deserting Dteks already, after less than a year, what is to say that they wil not do the same to Keyone?? BB's past is catching up with them, and owners have a right to know where BB stands regarding support for it's products. a 'life' of 12 months or so for Dtek's is not going to convince others to buy Keyone, that's for sure.
Regarding 'being from a different manufacturer' the phones are still 'Blackberry' labelled, and as such, mud sticks..BB need to clarify the situation, for EVERYBODY's sake. both existing users, and prospective new one's, otherwise the confusion will not make anything better, just worse, as people speculate!!
BB are a toxic firm to many at the present, and they will not buy without assurances that they will not be 'dumped' inside a year, as Dtek owners have been!!
TCL/BBMobile knew this when they licensed BlackBerry name. They know how many PRIV/DTEK hardware devices were manufactured and sold. They've run the numbers and will decide whether to update those devices to Nougat is worth it or not. If enough BlackBerry diehards buy the KEYone with Nougat, TCL/BBMobile can decide it would be more beneficial to rollout a new flagship VKB slab device with better specs than DTEK.06-16-17 07:11 AMLike 0 -
Anyway. As a shareholder I would me more than happy to have confirmed they are not wasting money on updates that bring no extra income to the company.
So dont see the hurt actually. What stops them from just telling they are not bringing the update. Surely it would make the shareholders happy (unless he has a DTEK/Priv) .
Posted via CB1006-16-17 10:55 AMLike 0 - Shareholder standpoint deciding on business direction, so happy that concept is not operational in the Rheinland. Different subject though.
Anyway. As a shareholder I would me more than happy to have confirmed they are not wasting money on updates that bring no extra income to the company.
So dont see the hurt actually. What stops them from just telling they are not bringing the update. Surely it would make the shareholders happy (unless he has a DTEK/Priv) .
Posted via CB10werkregen likes this.06-16-17 11:06 AMLike 1 - kbz1960Doesn't MatterIt's always about the money. But it makes for more loss of customers who wait rather jump on the keyone. But blackberry has never cared about consumers anyway. Of course they have ones that will ignore all and buy any and everything they make and several of them lol.06-16-17 11:22 AMLike 0
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Unless you refer to the fact the DTEK50 and 60 are not even a year old and are catered to "enterprise" (thus security is paramount - their words, not mine), and both launched either at the same time or after nougat was already available - yea I can see why confirming they won't be updating these ones would look bad.
But the Priv - it's old enough to just say "hey, we won't update this one".
But I know it's irrelevant at this point as you're right - when Blackberry left hardware they left it, including their software priorities for said hardware.Uzi likes this.06-16-17 12:17 PMLike 1 - Wasn't it said in multiple other posts we should remain aware TCL has nothing to do with BBoriginal?
So upsetting potential KEY1 buyers is irrelevant. Not providing info upsets those potential buyers just as wel, however as said upsetting K1 buyers is irrelevant anyway.
Still no reason seen why BlackBerry could not behave as a good responsible company providing clarity to its shareholders (and clients maybe, oh no, don't mention the clients) and answer they yes/no question.
Posted via CB1006-17-17 06:42 AMLike 0 - It seems to in the general android world. All devices get 1 major update. If it launches with 5, it gets 6 update. If it launches with 6, it gets 7. Priv launched with 5 and got 6. Dtek50 /60 launched with 6.... It should get 7. But from what I'm being told 7 isn't even a Beta option internally..... So I doubt it will come.06-17-17 07:39 AMLike 0
- It seems to in the general android world. All devices get 1 major update. If it launches with 5, it gets 6 update. If it launches with 6, it gets 7. Priv launched with 5 and got 6. Dtek50 /60 launched with 6.... It should get 7. But from what I'm being told 7 isn't even a Beta option internally..... So I doubt it will come.
Last year, right after BlackBerry exited hardware by announcement people were cautious about buying their new dtek50 and dtek60.
And some folks on here persuaded concerned buyers that nougat for sure would be coming because these were enterprise and would continue getting support software side...SOFTWARE side.
Now the tune being sung is "meh, they have nothing to do with hardware anymore so too bad for y'all" ...that's precisely what people were concerned about last summer.
Even when the dtek50 started getting behind on their patches the excuse being propagated here by some was that BlackBerry must be working on nougat....
I knew back then it likely had nothing to do with nougat and more with them giving no priority to their phones, software included.
Thus why they struggle to keep up with updates now that they have like 4 devices (omg that's a lot /s).
But I feel sorry for the people who got misled into thinking they'd be guaranteed nougat because of the "enterprise" myth (all in good fun don't shoot me), and also because the 60 launched a few months after nougat was available already...xandros9 likes this.06-17-17 01:09 PMLike 1 - Hilarious that some will defend BlackBerry not updating the 1000$ priv and their other devices.
Even more funny that some say "well BlackBerry isn't in the hardware business anymore". But guess what, BlackBerry is the one making the God damn software in both the Aurora and the keyone. Stop trying to make it sound like the licensees just took the brand name from BlackBerry. They took the name and the entire software package. BlackBerry is still developing android software.
Anyway when people see that BlackBerry no longer supports it's users there won't be many people buying a keyone. Whatever, BlackBerry dropped the ball and lots of users will think twice about buying a BlackBerry again.06-17-17 01:32 PMLike 0 - kbz1960Doesn't MatterHilarious that some will defend BlackBerry not updating the 1000$ priv and their other devices.
Even more funny that some say "well BlackBerry isn't in the hardware business anymore". But guess what, BlackBerry is the one making the God damn software in both the Aurora and the keyone. Stop trying to make it sound like the licensees just took the brand name from BlackBerry. They took the name and the entire software package. BlackBerry is still developing android software.
Anyway when people see that BlackBerry no longer supports it's users there won't be many people buying a keyone. Whatever, BlackBerry dropped the ball and lots of users will think twice about buying a BlackBerry again.06-17-17 01:56 PMLike 0 -
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- Strange that they can supply 2 'new' phones (Keyone and Aurora ) with Nougat, yet not even supply the existing products still in warranty with the upgrade.
REAL manufacturers offer at least ONE OS upgrade during the phones lifetime,
BB can't even manage to get their 'securest android' updates out, leave alone an OS upgrade to phones 10 months old!!.
Basically, the Dteks are walking dead, because BBm will concentrate on Keyone and Aurora, rather than Priv & Dtek.06-18-17 09:45 AMLike 0 - Strange that they can supply 2 'new' phones (Keyone and Aurora ) with Nougat, yet not even supply the existing products still in warranty with the upgrade.
REAL manufacturers offer at least ONE OS upgrade during the phones lifetime,
BB can't even manage to get their 'securest android' updates out, leave alone an OS upgrade to phones 10 months old!!.
Basically, the Dteks are walking dead, because BBm will concentrate on Keyone and Aurora, rather than Priv & Dtek.
Well, it has been said BlackBerry has nothing to gain since they're out of the hardware game.
My only contention to this is they already officially announced this before the dtek60 launched. But the same people who now say, BlackBerry is out of the game, no guarantees - back then they were saying:
The dtek's are aimed at enterprise customers...so they need to be secure and:
Hardened nougat will be as secure as bb10, thus don't see why they wouldn't bring this to the dtek's...
It takes 6months to harden nougat, so let's wait...
They "know" employees were playing around with nougat...
Basically the message by some on here was that it would probably be coming, and they saw no reason for it not to come for the dtek's, although there was the caveat of nothing is for certain.
Now it's basically - wait and see, if it doesn't come too bad, BlackBerry has nothing to gain from it, etc.
Posted via CB10Last edited by evodevo69; 06-18-17 at 01:57 PM.
06-18-17 10:56 AMLike 0 - Well Aurora is by an Indonesian licensee, not BBMo (ie. TCL).
Well, it has been said BlackBerry has nothing to gain since they're out of the hardware game.
My only contention to this is they already officially announced this before the dtek60 launched. But the same people who now say, BlackBerry is out of the game, no guarantees - back then they were saying:
The dtek's are aimed at enterprise customers...so they need to be secure and:
Hardened nougat will be as secure as bb10, thus don't see why they wouldn't bring this to the dtek's...
It takes 6months to harden nougat, so let's wait...
They "know" employees were playing around with nougat...
Basically the message by some on here was that it would probably be coming, and they saw no reason for it not to come for the dtek's, although there was the caveat of nothing is for certain.
Now it's basically - wait and see, if it doesn't come too bad, BlackBerry has nothing to gain from it, etc.
Posted via CB1006-18-17 06:18 PMLike 0 -
From my understanding, the answer is exactly 1, and only on one model.
No other Android manufacturer anywhere, including Google itself (since Google itself has retired support for some of its Nexus devices), can make that claim.
Unfortunately, it appears that some of the carrier-customized variants haven't done as well as the factory-unlocked units. That, alas, is common across all manufacturers.06-20-17 07:33 AMLike 0
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