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BB UK have also admitted that the device I have is not locked in any way....(from the imei number) so please, try to explain that to me??
I have NEVER bought a carrier locked phone, either from BB or any other supplier, because I refused to be 'tied down' by someone other than the phone manufacturer..Last edited by HughJarsse; 06-16-17 at 12:03 PM. Reason: spelling
06-16-17 12:02 PMLike 0 - But I don't have a 'carrier branded' device... item bought from a supplier who buys direct from BB, and they have written to me, stating that their phones are direct from BB, so definately not 'carrier branded'
BB UK have also admitted that the device I have is not locked in any way....(from the imei number) so please, try to explain that to me??
I have NEVER bought a carrier locked phone, either from BB or any other supplier, because I refused to be 'tied down' by someone other than the phone manufacturer..
I don't live there, so I can't say much about UK devices obtained through re-sellers.06-16-17 12:35 PMLike 0 -
The original Blackberry support forums had many, many posts from the WHOLE of Europe, (France, Germany, Denmark, Italy) as well as other non-EU countries all complaining that they were late getting updates. Some were because they were carrier locked, but many others were not..EU ones seemed to be from 'shop BB' yet still had months go by without any updates...
Probably the main reason Blackberry shut their own 'support' forum was that there were so many irate 'owners' not getting updates for Priv, and Dteks they decided to call it quits...
But hey, let's not forget that so long as the good old NA customers are OK, the rest of us other world 'wallahs' can jolly well go and run, Eh Blackberry??06-16-17 02:36 PMLike 0 -
- So you are making 'sweeping generalisations' based on yourself in NA then...
The original Blackberry support forums had many, many posts from the WHOLE of Europe, (France, Germany, Denmark, Italy) as well as other non-EU countries all complaining that they were late getting updates. Some were because they were carrier locked, but many others were not..EU ones seemed to be from 'shop BB' yet still had months go by without any updates...
Probably the main reason Blackberry shut their own 'support' forum was that there were so many irate 'owners' not getting updates for Priv, and Dteks they decided to call it quits...
But hey, let's not forget that so long as the good old NA customers are OK, the rest of us other world 'wallahs' can jolly well go and run, Eh Blackberry??
My experience is I bought a 50 from Staples Canada unlocked in late March, right out of the box it updated to March security update out of the box. April went by no update, May 15 still nothing. I called BlackBerry they opened a ticket and told me it is a known issue some of the phones are not pulling the update from server. Late in May it finally came through and here we are today on that May patch.06-16-17 04:19 PMLike 0 -
That's important to note, because the update/security patching of each devices is not independent of the other devices - presumably because they have the absolute minimum number of people working on their phone software required to keep the licensing agreements going.
With the KEYone now launched, presumably with its very own OS version since it has no swipe gesture like the previous 3 phones, unless they hire more people don't expect the schedule to get better...only worse.
Once the dtek60 launched everything fell apart as far as day zero patching was concerned.
Posted via CB1006-16-17 09:44 PMLike 0 - Ok. I've done some work and went back in time to go over the DTEK50 updates:
Sep 5 patch received Aug 30 - build AAG326
Oct 5 patch received Oct 18 - build AAH108
Nov 5 patch received Dec 5 - build AAH990
Dec 5 patch received Jan 5 - build AAI482
Jan 5 patch received Jan 13 - build AAI795
Feb 5 patch received Feb 15 - build AAJ221
Mar 5 patch received Mar 6 - build AAJ842
Apr 5 patch received Apr 5 - build AAK406
May 5 patch received May 5 - Build AAL135
Apart from the aberration in Nov/Dec, that's pretty darn awesome.
Posted via CB10anon(7979562) likes this.06-16-17 09:46 PMLike 1 -
Moto G 4, HALF the price of a Dtek50, yet, has nougat already!!
Yet, Dtek, 'the securest android' doesn't even have the latest security patch, over HALF WAY through the month!!tcartr likes this.06-19-17 10:36 AMLike 1 - I wonder if people who didn't have BlackBerry actually check to see when the last time it got a security update? Obviously BlackBerry sold on that so they're reaping what they saw I suppose.
I have an Android TV which hasn't had a security fix for four months and to be fair I only check to see if there's one when I remember whereas my Dtek50 I check most nights after the first of the month.06-19-17 02:30 PMLike 0 -
Name me a single Android device who's marketing campaign was built on Updating the Security of Your Device - Long After You Purchase It who hasn't been receiving timely monthly updates?crackberry_geek likes this.06-19-17 03:01 PMLike 1 - Sometimes I wonder if you're an actual human being or some sort of AI that John Chen as employed on these forums for amusement.
Name me a single Android device who's marketing campaign was built on Updating the Security of Your Device - Long After You Purchase It who hasn't been receiving timely monthly updates?
My statement stands.
If you don't like the above update schedule, move to another device.06-19-17 03:11 PMLike 0 -
It's a pity though that you would rather take your ball and go home.06-19-17 03:39 PMLike 0 -
- You guys should upgrade to a BlackBerry z10. No silly fretting about monthly security upgrades, cuz they ain't needed (or coming anytime soon).
Btw... just fired up my dtek50 tonight to answer a question a poster asked. I think I may be on the December 2016 patch or January 2017 but the phone itself works great.. may actually work it into my rotation.
What is the big deal with the monthly security updates? And why would somebody get so upset about a security update a few days late, they go and buy a phone that will have even fewer and slower updates? Doesn't make sense.
Posted via CB10Thaefner18 likes this.06-20-17 10:09 PMLike 1 - I sold my Dtek50 for just $70 less than I paid but I had it just from March. Too bad i liked it but I don't want a phone that is supported just one year.06-21-17 03:48 PMLike 0
- You guys should upgrade to a BlackBerry z10. No silly fretting about monthly security upgrades, cuz they ain't needed (or coming anytime soon).
Btw... just fired up my dtek50 tonight to answer a question a poster asked. I think I may be on the December 2016 patch or January 2017 but the phone itself works great.. may actually work it into my rotation.
What is the big deal with the monthly security updates? And why would somebody get so upset about a security update a few days late, they go and buy a phone that will have even fewer and slower updates? Doesn't make sense.
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Posted via CB10elfabio80 likes this.06-22-17 02:43 PMLike 1 -
Posted via CB1006-22-17 04:13 PMLike 0 - I'm not fussed. I check if there isn't one I get on with my life. I have various android things about No they are months behind with updates. I can sleep sound in my bed at night because any time I've heard of an attack it always seems to be a potential risk, never actually heard of one running wild yet, on any platform.06-22-17 04:17 PMLike 0
- It's a developing pattern of behavior that has people concerned. Coupled with ZERO communication, and you have a situation where people bought a product based on a certain software feature set and are starting to already feel the cold shoulder of abandonment on the horizon. Sure the phone still works, and will continue to do so, but when you pay dollars and cents for advertised advantages and feel short changed, it's only natural to expect customers to start asking questions. I'm puzzled as to why you feel this is a such a foreign and unrealistic reaction.Ethynil likes this.06-23-17 10:50 AMLike 1
- It's a developing pattern of behavior that has people concerned. Coupled with ZERO communication, and you have a situation where people bought a product based on a certain software feature set and are starting to already feel the cold shoulder of abandonment on the horizon. Sure the phone still works, and will continue to do so, but when you pay dollars and cents for advertised advantages and feel short changed, it's only natural to expect customers to start asking questions. I'm puzzled as to why you feel this is a such a foreign and unrealistic reaction.
Posted via CB1006-23-17 03:01 PMLike 0 - It's a developing pattern of behavior that has people concerned. Coupled with ZERO communication, and you have a situation where people bought a product based on a certain software feature set and are starting to already feel the cold shoulder of abandonment on the horizon. Sure the phone still works, and will continue to do so, but when you pay dollars and cents for advertised advantages and feel short changed, it's only natural to expect customers to start asking questions. I'm puzzled as to why you feel this is a such a foreign and unrealistic reaction.06-23-17 07:17 PMLike 2
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