06-03-10 08:29 PM
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  1. diegonei's Avatar
    So, RIM did it again.

    http://crackberry.com/first-look-bla...ve-9300-images

    At least now I know what the 9630 owner felt about the 9650...

    What aboutyou peeps?
    06-02-10 01:46 PM
  2. papped's Avatar
    I dunno, this was fairly predictable though. Tmobile needed a 3g curve considering every other device has a 3g variant (even the Pearl).

    Also the 8520 didn't have NEARLY the same amount of hardware failures that the 9630 did, and had wifi, and had a trackpad... The main reason the 9650 (and the name change) had to come to existence was a ton of device returns/CS costs.
    06-02-10 01:50 PM
  3. anon(140126)'s Avatar
    The phone in the picture look exactly like the 8500 series. Except for the housing, maybe. I don't know if it has different specs, or anything like that.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-02-10 01:51 PM
  4. diegonei's Avatar
    My point is, like the 9630, the 8520 (and probably the 8530) is being replaced with devide that... well... should have been the 8520 to begin with.

    Will 8520 users be able to replace their phones? I don't think 9630 users were... So, all in all, RIM did the same to us that it did to Tour'ers.

    Guess history is really cyclical after all. And I usually support RIM one most what happens. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Not sure it's a smart move as a company to keep doing this.
    06-02-10 02:09 PM
  5. papped's Avatar
    Historically the 8520 released just as expected though. No 3g on the Curve series is pretty much standard for GSM (even the 8900).

    9630 users wanted to replace their phones because the damn things fail like crazy and had a lot of signal issues. 8520 users are going to want to replace their phones because they want something newer.

    That's a huge, huge difference...
    06-02-10 02:28 PM
  6. diegonei's Avatar
    Historically the 8520 released just as expected though. No 3g on the Curve series is pretty much standard for GSM (even the 8900).

    9630 users wanted to replace their phones because the damn things fail like crazy and had a lot of signal issues. 8520 users are going to want to replace their phones because they want something newer.

    That's a huge, huge difference...
    That... almost sounded Vulcan...
    06-02-10 02:39 PM
  7. rcnathan's Avatar
    I never had issues with signal on my 9630. I have more issues with my 8530 than my Tour. I just think that phones are going to get upgraded. Its apart of the electronics world.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-02-10 05:46 PM
  8. papped's Avatar
    ^^ That doesn't explain why the entire Tour name was axed and the 9630 was fully removed from sales at least 1.5 years too early though (with the exception of VZ because they didn't release the 9650 yet, but expect it to happen for them also).
    06-02-10 06:01 PM
  9. brdl04's Avatar
    My point is, like the 9630, the 8520 (and probably the 8530) is being replaced with devide that... well... should have been the 8520 to begin with.

    Will 8520 users be able to replace their phones? I don't think 9630 users were... So, all in all, RIM did the same to us that it did to Tour'ers.

    Guess history is really cyclical after all. And I usually support RIM one most what happens. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Not sure it's a smart move as a company to keep doing this.
    "Should have been the XXXX to begin with."... I HATE THAT QUOTE!

    You could say that about anything! The Droid Incredible is what the Eris should have been. The 8530 is what the 8330 should have been. The 2010 Ford Taurus is what the 1999 Ford Taurus should have been.

    Stop it!! Its life... Get over it.
    06-02-10 07:01 PM
  10. Snowbawll's Avatar
    Hey nothing wrong with a 1999 ford taurus haha..

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-02-10 07:38 PM
  11. aria_aradhea's Avatar
    Can I get myself a chrome bezel and start calling my phone a 9300?

    06-02-10 07:54 PM
  12. RUFFSTUFF1's Avatar
    "Should have been the XXXX to begin with."... I HATE THAT QUOTE!

    You could say that about anything! The Droid Incredible is what the Eris should have been. The 8530 is what the 8330 should have been. The 2010 Ford Taurus is what the 1999 Ford Taurus should have been.

    Stop it!! Its life... Get over it.

    +1 Like someone forced them to buy the phone they have.
    06-02-10 08:17 PM
  13. TheOne01's Avatar
    Don't start crying now. You created this monster. This is the company that everyone in here defends as though their life depended on it! "Blackberry forever!", "Blackberry for life!", blah, blah, blah! It's that blind loyalty, that unwillingness to look at anything not blackberry is the reason that they can recycle the same phones and slap a new model number on it, and release it to the public. There are people in here right now jumping at the chance to order the new VZW "bold" tonight at midnight. Why? When we all know that it's barely a step up from the 9630 Tour. I suspect that you all will also be jumping at the chance to throw your money at RIM for this beauty also.
    06-02-10 08:45 PM
  14. papped's Avatar
    lol, I've owned more non-BB's than I have BB's...

    I don't buy BB's because of brand loyalty. Brand loyalty is total BS.
    06-02-10 08:50 PM
  15. RUFFSTUFF1's Avatar
    I bought a BB because the email said I could increase my length by 3 inches. I got +3.25 so I'm happy.
    06-02-10 08:56 PM
  16. papped's Avatar
    I bought a BB because the email said I could increase my length by 3 inches. I got +3.25 so I'm happy.
    lol nice...
    06-02-10 08:57 PM
  17. mrs.driscoll's Avatar
    I liked the new phone but I have to say for it to be a upgrade I sure wish they would have added a flash ... I think ill stick with my 8530 until they decide to add a phone with flash...

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-02-10 09:22 PM
  18. diegonei's Avatar
    I liked the new phone but I have to say for it to be a upgrade I sure wish they would have added a flash ... I think ill stick with my 8530 until they decide to add a phone with flash...
    Unless they change to a better processor, I see no point on going 8530 > 9330... besides aesthetics at least. The 8530 is pretty much complete as I see it. Sure, could use flash...


    Can I get myself a chrome bezel and start calling my phone a 9300?

    You know, I asked myself the very same thing...

    Don't start crying now. You created this monster. This is the company that everyone in here defends as though their life depended on it! "Blackberry forever!", "Blackberry for life!", blah, blah, blah! It's that blind loyalty, that unwillingness to look at anything not blackberry is the reason that they can recycle the same phones and slap a new model number on it, and release it to the public. There are people in here right now jumping at the chance to order the new VZW "bold" tonight at midnight. Why? When we all know that it's barely a step up from the 9630 Tour. I suspect that you all will also be jumping at the chance to throw your money at RIM for this beauty also.
    Go over my post history, I'll buy you a beer if you find such stuff.

    My point is. This is not exactly wise...

    9000 > 9700: New format, trackpad, double the memory (128 > 256), better battery life, better OS performance. If you had the 9000 you'd proabbly want the 9700. Makes sense to EOL the 9000 at some point.

    9630 > 9650: Trackpad, wi-fi, double the memory (256 > 512), can expect better OS performance, OS 6 able. If you had the 9630 you'd probably be dying for this one, but if you can't update you'd be at least annoyed the 9630 didn't get wi-fi to begin with (we know this is true). 9630 is EOL.

    Now...

    8520 > 9300: Aesthetcs... 3G... nothing else. Since this is the new installment... And there is no point building two devices that are basically the same... EOL for the 8520 in the horizon. How long since it was launched? Around 1.5 year? Deja vu anyone?

    I'll stick to BlackBerry for as long as it suits my needs. I am not into media/games and I type more than I do anything else on it so touchscreen and sweepy screens do me no good (they are still cool, I don't hate them, would not mind a Storm 2 as toy).

    Nobody forced me to buy this, but I made sure I bought the most recent device available then so I didn't have to worry about replacing it for a while... Still love it, but I kinda feel cheated.
    Last edited by diegonei; 06-02-10 at 10:34 PM.
    06-02-10 10:20 PM
  19. RUFFSTUFF1's Avatar
    You should feel cheated because you got a 8520 instead of a 8530...!
    06-03-10 06:16 AM
  20. diegonei's Avatar
    You should feel cheated because you got a 8520 instead of a 8530...!
    CDMA is long dead in Brasil.

    I didn't feel pissed about the 8530's 3G/GPS althout I asked if that would have been so much to add for the price tagging.
    06-03-10 08:19 AM
  21. RUFFSTUFF1's Avatar
    CDMA is long dead in Brasil.

    I didn't feel pissed about the 8530's 3G/GPS althout I asked if that would have been so much to add for the price tagging.
    I don't know why there's a 8520 and a 8530 in the first place. Should be just the 8530.
    06-03-10 11:35 AM
  22. diegonei's Avatar
    I don't know why there's a 8520 and a 8530 in the first place. Should be just the 8530.
    What exactly do you mean? That there shouldn't be a GSM version?

    I hope you intended to say that both 8520 and 8530 should have had the very same features. I really do.
    06-03-10 11:45 AM
  23. sprint_fan's Avatar
    I can see the upgrade for 8520 users, because of the 3g, but they should make this more compelling for all 8520 and 8530 users by adding memory, flash maybe, and whatever it needs to be able to run os 6.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-03-10 12:19 PM
  24. papped's Avatar
    I can see the upgrade for 8520 users, because of the 3g, but they should make this more compelling for all 8520 and 8530 users by adding memory, flash maybe, and whatever it needs to be able to run os 6.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    It's not as necessary as you think because what you want out of the 9330 and what they are trying to target are two different things. This is a low end device. Cost is the bottom line, so having a cheaper phone even if it doesn't run OS6 still makes sense.

    They might still upgrade other things, but even if they don't, 3g + low cost 8520+3g for GSM is the target. In other words they are not really targeting 8520 upgraders.

    For the 8530 users I don't think this is even relevant. This is for GSM to put them on par with some of the current CDMA low-end offerings.
    06-03-10 01:56 PM
  25. LilacBleeds's Avatar
    i thought the 3G would bother me but it doesn't
    i live in the uk so we always get them about a year behind the usa so i can always save up and that
    06-03-10 03:53 PM
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