[bizzob223]

I'm somewhat confused by the 8330 vs 8330m. This is my phone info, however when I go into the status screen is shows MEID (dec) 26843 (+13 more numbers). Is it just an 8330 or os it the 8330m. My phone is running great on .160

Thanks a million
Bob

blackberry 8330
smarthpone (CDMA)
v4.5.150 (Platform 3.4.0.41)

[xliderider]

I'm somewhat confused by the 8330 vs 8330m. This is my phone info, however when I go into the status screen is shows MEID (dec) 26843 (+13 more numbers). Is it just an 8330 or os it the 8330m. My phone is running great on .160

Thanks a million
Bob

blackberry 8330
smarthpone (CDMA)
v4.5.150 (Platform 3.4.0.41)

Your device is an 8330, that's why it is running .160. If it said 8330m on your Options > About screen, you wouldn't be able to load the .160 OS on it.

[bizzob223]

I was about 98% sure that is was an 8330. Thanks for the quick reply.


Bob

[HouseApe]

Um...if you see MEID then you have an 8330m not an 8330

How to determine if you have an ESN or MEID based device:
From the main menu, select Options, then select Status.
ESN devices - On the Status screen you will see ESN on the display (= 8330)
MEID devices � On the Status screen you will see MEID on the display (= 8330m)

[bizzob223]

Well I do see MEID on the display, however i have .160 running perfectly on it as of now. Does Verizon have a 8330m?


Thanks again

[xliderider]

Um...if you see MEID then you have an 8330m not an 8330

How to determine if you have an ESN or MEID based device:
From the main menu, select Options, then select Status.
ESN devices - On the Status screen you will see ESN on the display (= 8330)
MEID devices – On the Status screen you will see MEID on the display (= 8330m)

It's not that black and white. There are several members here that have MEID numbers, yet the Options > About screen reports 8330 as the device, not 8330m. Their devices will not load an OS designed for the 8330m, but will take an OS for an ESN device with no problem.

What determines what OS the device accepts is dependent on the device info., not whether it has an MEID or ESN.

[HouseApe]

I have heard that the Telus .160 will load on an 8330m

if you look at the file name
(8330AMEA_PBr4.5.0_rel253_PL3.4.0.41_A4.5.0.160_Te lus_Mobility)

It does not have the 8330u (for ESN) like the previous OS's do, or the 8330m (for MEID).
8330uAMEA_PBr4.5.0_rel205_PL3.4.0.30_A4.5.0.138
8330mAMEA_PBr4.5.0_rel205_PL3.4.0.30_A4.5.0.138

But if your seeing MEID then you have an 8330m

[xliderider]

I have heard that the Telus .160 will load on an 8330m

if you look at the file name
(8330AMEA_PBr4.5.0_rel253_PL3.4.0.41_A4.5.0.160_Te lus_Mobility)

It does not have the 8330u (for ESN) like the previous OS's do, or the 8330m (for MEID).
8330uAMEA_PBr4.5.0_rel205_PL3.4.0.30_A4.5.0.138
8330mAMEA_PBr4.5.0_rel205_PL3.4.0.30_A4.5.0.138

But if your seeing MEID then you have an 8330m

Why would the Options > About screen say the device is an 8330 then and not 8330m?

Like I said, it isn't as cut and dry as saying "if you have an MEID number, then you have an 8330m". There have been numerous reports that there are devices with MEID numbers, yet the device info is 8330 in Options > About.

[HouseApe]

So Rim has made a few MEID 8330's This is news to me. Ill look into it then.

[HouseApe]

So I did see the posts about the "About screen" saying 8330 but they have an MEID and they are loading the 8330 OS and not the 8330m OS's. Still not sure how they could have an MEID and load ESN OS's

Then I seen your post

If you have an MEID number, then your device is an 8330m. The 8330 has an ESN number.

from
http://forums.crackberry.com/f52/ime...2/#post2812188 This is what I say too but your now saying different from what you said two weeks ago. Can you explain what changed your opinion now in this thread? I'm not trying to call you out or anything but just trying to understand.

[xliderider]

Yeah, you got me.

I changed my opinion after realizing that there are indeed people who have MEID numbers who can only load the ESN version of OS releases, and their devices are reporting as an 8330.

[HouseApe]

After reading some more 8330m really means embedded MMS and not really MEID. Although all 8330m's are MEID.

So you could have an MEID 8330 (with no embedded MMS or like Telus and no MMS at all). And this is why it says 8330 in the about screen.

This makes total sense now as embedded MMS would require a different OS and I'm guessing a different chip set that's why they came up with a different model number.

So the only real way to tell an 8330 from an 8330m is in the about screen only.

Still does not explain the diffrance in the file names ("u" vs "m" vs no letter at all) unless RIM finaly made the .160 OS work on all 8330's and 8330m's

[didiwags]

Yeah that is really confusing LOL I have a 8330 from verizon but all it is says is 8330, it has a MEID #, I dont get the whole MMS thing as I can send MMS but dont know the differences!

[xliderider]

There were a few ppl in the .160 thread who reported not being able to load the .160 OS. When all was said and done, it turned out they had an 8330m.

So again, I suspect that the only thing that determines what OS can and cannot be loaded on a device is the device's identity 8330 vs. 8330m in Options, About.

I still don't fully understand what determines why an OS can be loaded on one device and not another. Example: My OS is .160, however, I have taken ALL the Java files out of the .160 GSM OS and transplanted them into the .160 OS. Then I added over half the files from a 4.6 OS (Bold, GSM) and some 5.0 files.

Now you would think this concoction wouldn't even load, right? But it does.

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[HouseApe]

Well just to confuse us all even more

Check out this screen shot from this post http://forums.crackberry.com/f52/wha...ml#post2869433

[xliderider]

Something is fishy with that platform version. .160 should have a platform of 3.4.0.40 or .41 (can't remember exactly), must be a hybrid running a radio from an m OS.

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[iowabowtech]

A sidenote to all this 8330 vs 8330m thing...some say 8330 (ESN) can't receive imbedded media in MMS. That seems to be misinformation since my 8330 does it. Didn't mean to sidebar too much but these topics seem to come up together on regular occasion. Just noticed it again in one of the posted links in this thread.

[HouseApe]

Well I'm on Telus and we get no MMS at all. So I'm just. Going by what I've read. It seems that the 8330 can recive a an MMS but its "a picture mail" and not a true emmbeded MMS.

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[xliderider]

Iowa, yes, that is a whole other issue in itself.

No one is saying an 8330 can't receive embedded media in MMS, it's just that the Sprint system is supposed to send the picturemail link to all 8330 devices, since there is no way for them to know whether the user has upgraded to 4.5 software or not.

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[iowabowtech]

I shouldn't have muddied the waters on a good thread. Just hoping folks will realize that there's not a lot cut and dried in the 8330 vs 8330m topic on multiple fronts. I've seen many incorrect references (not this thread but a link from this thread) to the imbedded media capability.

Anyway, carry on.

[Not_Your_Princess420]

My About looks just like that because I have the hybrid. Not that that really helps any. Lol ...well...it might. idk. lol

[xliderider]

That's what I was saying. It has to be a hybrid.

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[VetteVert]

I have both with a rural carrier that doesn't touch the phones as they come from RIM (full functionality as intended)...if anyone wants to know any differences or screens from them.

VV