1. oliv2915's Avatar
    Has anyone loaded this on there phones?

    8330m: https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...B58CE00D1194C9

    This download is from U.S. Cellular. With you having to delete the vender.xml file, this should work. The only thing is that I don't know if they are a GSM or CDMA provider.
    Last edited by oliv2915; 04-13-09 at 12:01 PM. Reason: Fix broken link.
    04-13-09 08:23 AM
  2. trinxified's Avatar
    What? Can somebody confirm this please?

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    04-13-09 08:27 AM
  3. big.daddy's Avatar
    us cellular is CDMA
    04-13-09 08:31 AM
  4. VTshorty78's Avatar
    Links do not work. Try this one instead:

    https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...B58CE00D1194C9

    This is only for 8330m. I did not see the same .205 for 8330. Perhaps I am blind.
    04-13-09 08:38 AM
  5. LazyStarGazer's Avatar
    Don't get excited if you have an 8330...it's package 4.5.90, application 4.5.0.66

    For the 8330m, it's package 4.5.0.205, application 4.5.0.138
    04-13-09 08:53 AM
  6. HouseApe's Avatar
    if you go to BlackBerry - Update your Device Software it should load .138 for the ESN 8330
    I'm running it now.
    04-13-09 08:59 AM
  7. oliv2915's Avatar
    I will fix the links. Yes the 8330 is .90. I forgot to post that.

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    04-13-09 09:16 AM
  8. forkup's Avatar
    i don't get .138 on my 8330.

    forkup
    04-13-09 09:17 AM
  9. John Yester's Avatar
    8330m is a MEID device not ESN device. The new SW/OS is to accommodate the MEID change. Your phone has an 18 digit serial number starting with XXXXXXXXX---------. Look under the battery at the label. The SW/OS for BB's with only 11 digits are NOT compatible.

    Electronic Serial Numbers (ESNs) were created by the FCC to uniquely identify mobile devices from the days of AMPS in the United States from the early 1980s. The administrative role was taken over by the Telecommunications Industry Association in 1997. ESNs are mainly used with AMPS, TDMA and CDMA phones in the United States, compared to IMEI numbers used by all GSM phones.[1]

    An ESN is 32 bits long. It consists of three fields, including an 8-bit manufacturer code, an 18-bit unique serial number, and 6 bits that were reserved for later use, although in practice these 6 bits have long been combined into a 24-bit serial number field. This format only allowed 256 different manufacturers to be distinguished. Therefore, when it became clear that this would not suffice, a new format was created, with a 14 bit manufacturer code and 18 bit serial number. All recently assigned ESN codes (and all UIMID codes) use this format.

    Manufacturer code 0x80 was reserved and now is used to represent pseudo ESNs (pESN) which are calculated from an MEID or EUIMID. Pseudo-ESNs are not guaranteed to be unique.

    ESNs are often represented as 11 digit decimal numbers or 8 digit hex numbers. The first three digits are the decimal representation of the first 8 bits (between 000 and 255 inclusive) and the next 8 are derived from the remaining 24 bits and will be between 00000000 and 16777215 inclusive. The decimal format of pseudo ESN's will therefore begin with 128. The decimal format separately displays 8 bit manufacturer codes, but not 14 bit codes.

    As ESNs are running out, a new serial number format named Mobile Equipment ID (MEID) has been created. MEIDs are 56 bits long, which is the same length as IMEI and, in fact, MEID was created to be compatible with IMEI. The main difference between MEID and IMEI is that the MEID allows hexadecimal digits while IMEI allows only decimal digits.
    04-13-09 09:30 AM
  10. HouseApe's Avatar
    i don't get .138 on my 8330.

    forkup
    What version are you running now? I was on .131 and did it the usaly way, download the file and deleted the vender XML file. I have been running .131 since it came out.

    Yeserday I tryed that link out for the first time. First it updated my loader.exe files then it showed that .138 was avalable for update. So I installed it.
    04-13-09 09:31 AM
  11. John Yester's Avatar
    This version will ONLY work on the 8330m. It will NOT work on regular 8330's. If you have a 8330m I'm sure you know what you have. If you arent sure, odds are you have a regular 8330.

    Just some FYI Info.
    04-13-09 09:34 AM
  12. HouseApe's Avatar
    8330m is a MEID device not ESN device. The new SW/OS is to accommodate the MEID change. Your phone has an 18 digit serial number starting with XXXXXXXXX---------. Look under the battery at the label. The SW/OS for BB's with only 11 digits are NOT compatible. snip
    There is an easy way to tell the 8330 from the 8330m

    Learn how to determine if you have an ESN or MEID based device.

    From the main menu, select Options, then select Status.
    ESN devices - On the Status screen you will see ESN on the display
    MEID devices � On the Status screen you will see MEID on the display.
    NOTE � You cannot install ESN-based software on a MEID device, nor can you install MEID-based software on an ESN device. They are NOT interchangeable.

    I have an ESN based 8330 that is a year old.
    04-13-09 09:37 AM
  13. HouseApe's Avatar
    Just some FYI Info.
    If you would take the time to read what I have said you would know that I'm very aware of that fact.

    I have a ESN 8330 now running .138
    04-13-09 09:38 AM
  14. LazyStarGazer's Avatar
    8330m is a MEID device not ESN device. The new SW/OS is to accommodate the MEID change. Your phone has an 18 digit serial number starting with XXXXXXXXX---------. Look under the battery at the label. The SW/OS for BB's with only 11 digits are NOT compatible.

    Electronic Serial Numbers (ESNs) were created by the FCC to uniquely identify mobile devices from the days of AMPS in the United States from the early 1980s. The administrative role was taken over by the Telecommunications Industry Association in 1997. ESNs are mainly used with AMPS, TDMA and CDMA phones in the United States, compared to IMEI numbers used by all GSM phones.[1]

    An ESN is 32 bits long. It consists of three fields, including an 8-bit manufacturer code, an 18-bit unique serial number, and 6 bits that were reserved for later use, although in practice these 6 bits have long been combined into a 24-bit serial number field. This format only allowed 256 different manufacturers to be distinguished. Therefore, when it became clear that this would not suffice, a new format was created, with a 14 bit manufacturer code and 18 bit serial number. All recently assigned ESN codes (and all UIMID codes) use this format.

    Manufacturer code 0x80 was reserved and now is used to represent pseudo ESNs (pESN) which are calculated from an MEID or EUIMID. Pseudo-ESNs are not guaranteed to be unique.

    ESNs are often represented as 11 digit decimal numbers or 8 digit hex numbers. The first three digits are the decimal representation of the first 8 bits (between 000 and 255 inclusive) and the next 8 are derived from the remaining 24 bits and will be between 00000000 and 16777215 inclusive. The decimal format of pseudo ESN's will therefore begin with 128. The decimal format separately displays 8 bit manufacturer codes, but not 14 bit codes.

    As ESNs are running out, a new serial number format named Mobile Equipment ID (MEID) has been created. MEIDs are 56 bits long, which is the same length as IMEI and, in fact, MEID was created to be compatible with IMEI. The main difference between MEID and IMEI is that the MEID allows hexadecimal digits while IMEI allows only decimal digits.
    ACRONYMS demystified. I had wondered what they stood for.
    04-13-09 10:00 AM
  15. cody's Avatar
    i'm running .138 on my sprint 8330m
    04-13-09 10:11 AM
  16. PaulM-D's Avatar
    Where did you get .138? I can only find .131 for the 8330.

    If you would take the time to read what I have said you would know that I'm very aware of that fact.

    I have a ESN 8330 now running .138
    04-13-09 10:28 AM
  17. HouseApe's Avatar
    You have to go to BlackBerry - Update your Device Software I beleave you will need .131 installed first. its confirmed by four different people now. All of them were running .131 before and they all have an ESN 8330.

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    04-13-09 11:00 AM
  18. LS3C6's Avatar
    Tried the update link with my sprint 8330, states 188 is the newest and already installed
    04-13-09 11:14 AM
  19. HouseApe's Avatar
    Tried the update link with my sprint 8330, states 188 is the newest and already installed
    Do you mean 4.5.0.188 or is that a typo?

    EDIT you mean Package Version: 4.5.0.188 = Applications: 4.5.0.131

    Do you have .131 installed on your PC with the vender.XML file deleted?

    EDIT 2 go to C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader and delete the Vender.xml file or edit it to read "<vendorsrc version="0.0.0.0">" and try again.
    Last edited by HouseApe; 04-13-09 at 11:32 AM.
    04-13-09 11:23 AM
  20. trinxified's Avatar
    What are the changes anyway? Is it worth the update?

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    04-13-09 11:28 AM
  21. HouseApe's Avatar
    Not sure what the changes are but it updated all the core apps. It just seems faster overall.
    04-13-09 11:42 AM
  22. oliv2915's Avatar
    I fixed the broken link that I placed in my OP. I also changed the thread title to show that it is for the 8330m.
    04-13-09 12:03 PM
  23. forkup's Avatar
    I do run 131 and did delete the vendor.xml but it shows no updates beyond 131.
    Strange...

    forkup
    04-13-09 02:40 PM
  24. LS3C6's Avatar
    Do you mean 4.5.0.188 or is that a typo?

    EDIT you mean Package Version: 4.5.0.188 = Applications: 4.5.0.131

    Do you have .131 installed on your PC with the vender.XML file deleted?

    EDIT 2 go to C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader and delete the Vender.xml file or edit it to read "<vendorsrc version="0.0.0.0">" and try again.
    tried renaming the vender.xml to vender.no as well as editing vendorsrc version to be 0.0.0.0, both result in being offered 4.5.0.188/4.5.0.131, i'm on sprint with a standard 8330
    04-13-09 04:03 PM
  25. Crucial_Xtreme's Avatar
    The 8330 and 8330m have different radio files. Thus are not interchangeable without some sort of manipulation.
    04-13-09 04:13 PM
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