Will you buy a BlackBerry Classic if it's only 1.5 GHz?
- i dont' profess to be an expert on energy consumption tbh, but there was a good discussion in xda forums on this if it helps? Again, its not off the manufacturers site, but i'm sure you can track it down if you need to. Perhaps this is a good starting point if you are interested.
Snapdragon 800 a battery friendly beast? | Google Nexus 5 | XDA Forums
specifically, it compares the s600, which is an s4 pro variant and the s800. The key bit with the power figuires was here:
28nm LP @ 1.7 GHz = 1075mv -- Snapdragon 600
28nm HPM @ 1.7 GHz = 900mv -- Snapdragon 800
You are right. clock a snapdragon 800 at 1.5 and it would be more efficient than an snapdragon 800 at 2.2, but I'm not sure there are any snapdragons available clocked that low? If the passport ships with a CPU clocked that low, i'm not sure where they will get CPU's that speed other than the older s4 pro units.
You are also right about screen technologies, pixel pushing is a real hog on power. Again, the better gpu's that are more efficient in the newer SOC's help out here.
I think you can only speak as you find. The Q10 for me laboured in some circumstances, the z30 did not, The Passport certainly doesn't in my experiences, particularly now on the latest os version, as it seemed to have some unexpected and random lag from time to time on the one that the phone shipped with. If the classic is similar spec to the z30 it will be about 1.7, not 1.5 won't it? If it had the same spec as the z30 it would be a slightly better proposition, again if price was taken into consideration appropriately.
?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1011-23-14 06:26 PMLike 0 - i dont' profess to be an expert on energy consumption tbh, but there was a good discussion in xda forums on this if it helps? Again, its not off the manufacturers site, but i'm sure you can track it down if you need to. Perhaps this is a good starting point if you are interested.
Snapdragon 800 a battery friendly beast? | Google Nexus 5 | XDA Forums
specifically, it compares the s600, which is an s4 pro variant and the s800. The key bit with the power figuires was here:
28nm LP @ 1.7 GHz = 1075mv -- Snapdragon 600
28nm HPM @ 1.7 GHz = 900mv -- Snapdragon 800
You are right. clock a snapdragon 800 at 1.5 and it would be more efficient than an snapdragon 800 at 2.2, but I'm not sure there are any snapdragons available clocked that low? If the passport ships with a CPU clocked that low, i'm not sure where they will get CPU's that speed other than the older s4 pro units.
You are also right about screen technologies, pixel pushing is a real hog on power. Again, the better gpu's that are more efficient in the newer SOC's help out here.
I think you can only speak as you find. The Q10 for me laboured in some circumstances, the z30 did not, The Passport certainly doesn't in my experiences, particularly now on the latest os version, as it seemed to have some unexpected and random lag from time to time on the one that the phone shipped with. If the classic is similar spec to the z30 it will be about 1.7, not 1.5 won't it? If it had the same spec as the z30 it would be a slightly better proposition, again if price was taken into consideration appropriately.
By no means I want to state that the S4 would consume less than the 800, but theory would lead me to that conclusion
Slagman makes a fair point aswell, the 800 will acomplish certain task faster so it could lead at less time during peak power consumption wich should be taken in account, but that would have so many variables that's hard to judge since different apps have different demands that can give advantage to each processor.
Se if we assumed that the classic had a snapdragon 800 at 1.5ghz (very very unlikely), it would run need less voltage, and less voltage already means less heat wich that alone means better energy efficiency, but I don't think it would be worth it, the standard speed of the 800 should be very efficient already.
Just saying this to justify my point that lowering the specs, lowering those numbers on the specsheet would result in better battery life, assuming that they have similar hardware technology. If they are that much different, then sure your point is completely valid aswellMr4aces and anon(9184750) like this.11-23-14 06:46 PMLike 2 - People still don't seem to understand that newer CPU's almost entirely run, not only faster, but more efficiently for a multitude of reasons, mostly covered here. My 500Mhz 386 with 56mb of ram and no video acceleration used more power than my i7 4.7Ghz Dual SLI with 32GB of ram. A lot more actually. That being said, BB10 may run efficiently on low specs, but I haven't seen a BB10 device yet that doesn't get lag at times. App load times between iOS, Android and BB10 are vastly taken by the first to mentioned. BB10 still has quite a way to go until it's really on par. With that said it's still my favorite OS to use and I have no doubt they're moving in the right direction and look forward to the great framework that has been and is being laid down for it.11-23-14 09:36 PMLike 0
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- I could pick over every point you've made and this would go on all night, and I have neither the time nor the appetite to. But I will pick up on the only part that matters to me.
I have not called YOU insane, so no need to be advising me to read the TOS thanks very much.
I come here to talk about tech, not to drum up as much bad feeling as I can. Frankly, from the way you've gone at it with myself and slagman in this thread, I'd say you are just proving the old saying about the amount of offence taken is directly proportional to the amount of offence sought
I always have to laugh when people get frustrated with having to defend their words, and so out of frustration accuse the person calling them out as "having too much time on their hands", or "attacking", or "going at it", etc. etc., completely forgetting that it takes 2 to tango.
I accept the apology and I actually do believe you're sorry. Now if you wouldn't mind apologizing to the millions of other people who might be reading this thread that you implied are not sane, that would be nice too.11-24-14 08:03 AMLike 0 - People still don't seem to understand that newer CPU's almost entirely run, not only faster, but more efficiently for a multitude of reasons, mostly covered here. My 500Mhz 386 with 56mb of ram and no video acceleration used more power than my i7 4.7Ghz Dual SLI with 32GB of ram. A lot more actually. That being said, BB10 may run efficiently on low specs, but I haven't seen a BB10 device yet that doesn't get lag at times. App load times between iOS, Android and BB10 are vastly taken by the first to mentioned. BB10 still has quite a way to go until it's really on par. With that said it's still my favorite OS to use and I have no doubt they're moving in the right direction and look forward to the great framework that has been and is being laid down for it.11-24-14 08:44 AMLike 0
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- because its an expression, no more ....... If I may, you appear to over think things. Either that or it was one of those misdirection strategies you mentioned earlier. Needless to say, I will not be apologising to the world at large. Don't push your luck
Frustration? No, just lack of interest. I am able to defend my words should I wish to, I made it very clear before I have niether the time nor the appetite. Don't conclude too much from people having better things to do than bandy words all day long. You have an opinion you are entitled to it. I don't agree. I"m entitled to. That's all thats going on here.
But isn't that the implication? Obviously some people in your description are sane.....and the others are not. Otherwise, why use that term at all?
"Gone at it"? My number posts to each of you are directly proportional to the posts that you've "gone at it" back at me. If fact, I mostly responded to the various points you make. I didn't call people who don't think like you sane.
I always have to laugh when people get frustrated with having to defend their words, and so out of frustration accuse the person calling them out as "having too much time on their hands", or "attacking", or "going at it", etc. etc., completely forgetting that it takes 2 to tango.
I accept the apology and I actually do believe you're sorry. Now if you wouldn't mind apologizing to the millions of other people who might be reading this thread that you implied are not sane, that would be nice too.11-24-14 11:05 AMLike 0 - Unfortunately, the ones who say that the Classic gets the same SoC as the Q10/Z10 seem to be right:
Classic: Classic - Geekbench Browser
Q10: Q10 - Geekbench Browser
Z30: Z30 - Geekbench Browser
If that's true, I won't buy it. Blackberry needs a profitable device divison, but that won't make me pay $450 for a smartphone with a SoC that was already outdated in 2013, when the Z10 arrived.11-24-14 12:15 PMLike 0 - I've got 10.3.1 loaded on my Q10 which has the 1.5 GHz processor. My device is never sluggish and everything is quick. So in reality, it doesn't even matter if it's 1.5 or higher; the 1.5 is sufficient for this device. The Q10 or Classic are not for playing video games, although even when I did use a couple of games a few times, they were also very quick so I'm not sure what the complaint would be. And for all those upgrading from legacy OSes, they'll be more than happy. I've yet to run into any occurrence where my 1.5 GHz processor has been slow.
Plus, the phone is only $499 ($449 in the US) so what do you expect for that price?Last edited by ypwandrews; 11-24-14 at 02:03 PM. Reason: additional comment
11-24-14 01:59 PMLike 0 - Unfortunately, the ones who say that the Classic gets the same SoC as the Q10/Z10 seem to be right:
Classic: Classic - Geekbench Browser
Q10: Q10 - Geekbench Browser
Z30: Z30 - Geekbench Browser
If that's true, I won't buy it. Blackberry needs a profitable device divison, but that won't make me pay $450 for a smartphone with a SoC that was already outdated in 2013, when the Z10 arrived.
Posted via my Classic Passport11-24-14 02:17 PMLike 0 - So you wouldn't buy it if it has a 1.5 GHz chip but you would if it's 1.7? 200MHz matters that much to you?
Posted via CB1011-24-14 11:48 PMLike 0 - The difference between the SoCs of Z10/Q10 and Z30 is not just a 200 Mhz increase in clock speed of the CPU cores. Please inform yourself before posting silly things.11-25-14 05:08 AMLike 0
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?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1011-25-14 09:15 AMLike 0 - It's a valid question (even if it has been asked before).
Personally, no - I wouldn't spend that money today on a Snapdragon S4-equipped device. Then again, the Classic isn't aimed at me to begin with - I didn't spend time with and become reliant upon BB7 devices.
Posted via CB1011-25-14 11:04 AMLike 0
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