12-17-14 02:19 AM
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  1. Andrew-NYC's Avatar
    Seriously considering the Classic, but wondering what the e-mail speeds will be, compared to the BIS I get on my 9700. I have a POP3 account, as well as Yahoo e-mail. Currently, with BIS - I receive e-mails before my desktop!
    11-18-14 07:43 AM
  2. LoganSix's Avatar
    I don't think you will notice a difference. That has to do with refresh rates and your Internet provider vs your carrier and not BIS.
    11-18-14 08:30 AM
  3. Alain_A's Avatar
    no compression anymore...it would be fast...

    same thing with my Z30 and windows phone...receiving e-mail b4 desktop
    11-18-14 08:30 AM
  4. Andrew-NYC's Avatar
    Sounds good. Thanks guys.
    11-18-14 09:16 AM
  5. KDB84's Avatar
    I still regularly get emails on my Z10 before my desktop (usually within a few seconds anyway), using Exchange ActiveSync account.
    RichardAitch and CmdrStraker like this.
    11-18-14 09:16 AM
  6. WES51's Avatar
    I asked this question before in a slightly different way.

    The responses I got were pretty much the same as what you got here. People wrote that it will have the same speed, but you will need an eMail account with a state of the art eMail provider, like Google.
    11-19-14 03:44 PM
  7. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Seriously considering the Classic, but wondering what the e-mail speeds will be, compared to the BIS I get on my 9700. I have a POP3 account, as well as Yahoo e-mail. Currently, with BIS - I receive e-mails before my desktop!
    It will be nowhere near as fast as BIS if you're out and about, I ran my 9900 and a Z10 side by side for a while and the Z10 could have 30 minutes delay.

    If you find yourself on slow GPRS areas you can forget about email on BB10, it won't work.
    11-20-14 01:44 AM
  8. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    no compression anymore...it would be fast...

    same thing with my Z30 and windows phone...receiving e-mail b4 desktop
    Actually you got that the wrong way around.
    11-20-14 01:46 AM
  9. Legal Eagle's Avatar
    I am having a far better experience with e.mail on my Passport that I was having on my 9900 for the last few months before I replaced it.

    On my latter days with BIS I was experiencing horrible delays with my BT Yahoo account and Gmail was beginning to go the same way. Messages were being received in small batches anything up to an hour after they had hit my computer. Both were IMAP.

    Now on the Passport messages are once again arriving at the same time they hit the computer.
    11-21-14 05:43 AM
  10. gl0799's Avatar
    Obviously the speed of email is better than 9700, now you can pre-order the classic at shopblackberry only in uk.

    Posted via CB10
    11-21-14 05:51 AM
  11. dale-c's Avatar
    I always get email on my z10 faster than my desktop.

    I almost never email from anything but my phone.

    Posted via CB10
    11-21-14 07:28 AM
  12. VeryBumpy's Avatar
    I always get my BIS mail on my Curve before my desktop but it is only about 1 min faster at the most.
    I don't see email deliver speed being an issue with today's ISPs.
    11-21-14 08:06 AM
  13. kjjb0204's Avatar
    Your POP3 email will not arrive as quickly as it used to when going through BIS. BIS is great in that it maintains a persistent connection to your pop3 email server and was always listening for new mail. As soon as it detected mail, it signaled your device to retrieve it. Without BIS, POP3 is relegated to a "pull" system, where your device will poll the email server at specified intervals (usually 15 minutes - often is able to be set by user). Your Yahoo mail supports IMAP, which means the mail server and your device are in constant sync, so as soon as a new Yahoo email arrives on the server, the IMAP yahoo server can push it to your device. POP3 is an older technology and has few benefits compared to IMAP services. If you rely on POP3 mail and are using BIS, you'll be disappointed with the Classic.
    11-21-14 10:06 AM
  14. Hilton_K's Avatar
    Exchange style server will get them same time as PC or a little faster depending if you have attachments / pictures auto download on phone.

    Unsure about POP3.

    Q10SQN100-3/10.3.1.938
    11-23-14 03:51 AM
  15. deadcowboy's Avatar
    ActiveSync is fast as hell on my phone.

    Posted via CB10
    11-23-14 01:16 PM
  16. rambo47's Avatar
    My Q10 gets my iCloud email instantaneously. Sometimes it even beats my iPhone when I'm connected to WiFi for the Q10 and using my iPhone 6 as my primary mobile. i don't see Classic being any different.
    11-23-14 01:30 PM
  17. johnnyuk's Avatar
    Exchange style server will get them same time as PC or a little faster depending if you have attachments / pictures auto download on phone.

    Unsure about POP3.

    Q10SQN100-3/10.3.1.938
    As explained well above already, POP3 on a BlackBerry Classic will be just the same speed as on Apple iOS, Android and Windows Phone. That is to say it will be a lot slower than on legacy BlackBerry OS smartphones that used BIS to speed the POP3 service up considerably making it a "push" email service rather than a "pull" email service.

    If you can, switch your email to a provider that supports ActiveSync connections. POP3 is a very old legacy email protocol that really should be deprecated. In the IT industry itself POP3 pretty much is deprecated already.

    Posted from my BlackBerry Z30STA100-2/10.3.1.1151 on O2 UK - Activated on BES10.2.4
    11-23-14 01:36 PM
  18. kjjb0204's Avatar
    As explained well above already, POP3 on a BlackBerry Classic will be just the same speed as on Apple iOS, Android and Windows Phone. That is to say it will be a lot slower than on legacy BlackBerry OS smartphones that used BIS to speed the POP3 service up considerably making it a "push" email service rather than a "pull" email service.

    If you can, switch your email to a provider that supports ActiveSync connections. POP3 is a very old legacy email protocol that really should be deprecated. In the IT industry itself POP3 pretty much is deprecated already.

    Posted from my BlackBerry Z30STA100-2/10.3.1.1151 on O2 UK - Activated on BES10.2.4
    Thank you! Clearly people don't read the other posts before responding.

    Bottom line - pop3 without bis will have a delay equal to your pull interval setting. It will not be instant like imap (yahoo, outlook.com, gmail) services.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android on my Q10
    11-23-14 03:23 PM
  19. anon(870071)'s Avatar
    Hey peeps the transition to OS 10 WILL no longer use bis! Regular data plans will apply and the speed is no different and will be based on how fast your data network is.

    Along with that your __________@blackberry.com email address also will no longer apply or be supported! Make sure you keep and maintain your BlackBerry world login as that will be your credentials now.

    I'm surprised this has not be mentioned for our newbies going to os10!?

    Posted via CB10
    12-13-14 10:52 AM
  20. Frehley's Avatar
    Offer us an option to pay (a nominal charge) for BIS. The data compression alone is worth $5 a month!!
    12-14-14 06:53 PM
  21. Alain_A's Avatar
    Actually you got that the wrong way around.
    Explain...

    Posted via CB10
    12-14-14 08:39 PM
  22. Alain_A's Avatar
    I am using Outlook and all my emails come in before my PC

    Posted via CB10
    12-14-14 08:44 PM
  23. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Explain...

    Posted via CB10
    What do you think it's faster to travel the Internet, a full size email or the same email compressed to a 4-5 times the original size, or even smaller?

    Why do you think BIS email was so fast over GPRS?
    12-15-14 02:36 AM
  24. dvarnai's Avatar
    What do you think it's faster to travel the Internet, a full size email or the same email compressed to a 4-5 times the original size, or even smaller?

    Why do you think BIS email was so fast over GPRS?
    It might be faster over gprs but not in general... fortunately gprs is basically gone now, I'm on 4g 100% of the time

    BlackBerry Q10 SQN100-3
    12-15-14 03:01 AM
  25. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    It might be faster over gprs but not in general... fortunately gprs is basically gone now, I'm on 4g 100% of the time

    BlackBerry Q10 SQN100-3
    Lmao, strictly talking about email, if it's faster over the slowest network it will be faster over any network.

    Good for you about 4G, I have no such luxuries, I often travel in the countryside where there's only GPRS or EDGE if I'm lucky and watch my iPhone become useless just like the Z10 or Q10 was.
    12-15-14 03:15 AM
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