- According to specs (but unfortunately not to price), Classic is a successor for Curve/Q5 devices. So, we need a device for Bold/Q10 owners. Passport is way too large. Classic has mediocre specs and is overpriced. John Chen, do you have anything for us?12-04-14 01:45 AMLike 5
- Same hardware, different time. It's like selling a PC now with specs equal to one sold 2 years ago and calling it an upgrade. Actually, it's exactly like that...12-04-14 02:13 AMLike 7
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Posted via CB1012-04-14 02:24 AMLike 0 - I feel the classic is still an upgrade regardless of specs
Battery: 415mAh (increase)
Screen: 0.36" inch (increase)
Addition of a Tool-belt
Other than that, according to leaked specs. It's a Q10 under the hood. So it's almost like you painted the car, put some new rims on, and put a sun roof in
Posted via BlackBerry Q5 on 10.2.1.344212-04-14 03:21 AMLike 2 - Classic is like Q10 on crack. And as we all know, cracks aren't cheap. That's an upgrade to me.
Posted via CB10jamesharmeling likes this.12-04-14 04:28 AMLike 1 - If you read all the stuff BlackBerry marketing is releasing regarding the Classic, you'll notice it actually is your typical Bold successor. There is not a single word about how great this device is for any existent BB10 users. BlackBerry always talks about huge jumps in hardware, multiple times better performance and an improved app catalogue - also thanks to Amazon. Yet all this only compared to legacy OS7 Bold and Curve users. If you'd upgrade from a 9790 you'll be really surprised and pleased by the new browser performance for sure. As an existing Q10/Q5 user? Not so much, because there won't be any improvement besides software (10.3.1) related stuff.
This also means there is no real Q10 successor for now, maybe the Passport, but it isn't actually marketed as one and, I am pretty sure of that, it really isn't meant to be one either due to the drastically different formfactor.
Does this make the Classic better? No, because by just looking at pure specs and the additional price you have to pay for the little upgrades, it still seems like some sort of rip-off. If a Bold user wants the exact same improvement in performance, he could've already got it with one of the Qs. He especially can get it right now for almost 1/3 less than the Classic! Of course they'll miss the toolbelt....
Posted via CB1012-04-14 05:13 AMLike 0 - YES! I want a real 'Classic' phone. With removable battery, higher specs and premium materials, not the cheap Z10 style backdoor.12-04-14 06:50 AMLike 5
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- If you want a Bold / Q10 successor, I'm afraid you'll have to go for the Classic for now.
I don't think there will be a new full qwerty bold like device with toolbelt coming up in 2015. Maybe later, but that's just speculation.
Why do the specs matter that much though? Those devices are all about the form factor and BlackBerry productivity - that's why people still buy the 9900.12-04-14 02:34 PMLike 0 - If you want a Bold / Q10 successor, I'm afraid you'll have to go for the Classic for now.
I don't think there will be a new full qwerty bold like device with toolbelt coming up in 2015. Maybe later, but that's just speculation.
Why do the specs matter that much though? Those devices are all about the form factor and BlackBerry productivity - that's why people still buy the 9900.
?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1012-04-14 03:06 PMLike 0 - Actually. It's exactly what Apple does so why not? The point of the Classic is not specs but the TOOLBELT. Which is kind of lame and just making the crybabies happy. Soo upgrade it is. Now if the successor to the Z30 comes with same specs then that would be the same as your PC theory as both will be slabs.
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Posted via CB1012-04-14 03:13 PMLike 0 - Certainly not, but what can we do for now? You can go with the Passport for the specs or with the Classic for the toolbelt or whatever. These are the options right now. I'm sure there will follow up some more, and I'm sure this isn't the last full qwerty phone with a toolbelt we will see, so be patient. BlackBerry isn't going to change their lineup or roadmap because of some CrackBerry posts.12-04-14 03:18 PMLike 0
- Certainly not, but what can we do for now? You can go with the Passport for the specs or with the Classic for the toolbelt or whatever. These are the options right now. I'm sure there will follow up some more, and I'm sure this isn't the last full qwerty phone with a toolbelt we will see, so be patient. BlackBerry isn't going to change their lineup or roadmap because of some CrackBerry posts.
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I am sure the phone needs a big price drop to even get a target audience12-04-14 04:05 PMLike 0 - I posted a thread about this exact issue and, at least from my perspective, BlackBerry will probably not be continuing the Q10's legacy.
Think about it: BBRY is streamlining their market offering to play on their strengths -- productivity and security. JC (John Chen, not Jesus) said so himself. It's a lean and focused BlackBerry.
That means enterprise first, consumers second. Currently, Q10ers like myself aren't exactly thrilled about the Classic specifically because of specs. Otherwise, there's no Q10 user who is adamantly against having a toolbelt. Some are a little annoyed, but we won't be staging protests.
What does this mean? BBRY will probably be paring down the product line to:
- Passport lineage -- the unique concept flagships for the high-end 'Berry addicts.
- Classic lineage -- the worker and mid-tier user base. One camp of toolbelt and QWERTY.
- Touch lineage -- one touch-centric paradigm. This will bring in the BYOD enthusiasts who are loyal but want full-touch. It will also fuel the R&D for the OS' development for the other products.
- Enterprise suites -- MDM, cloud security, enterprise UC (unified communication) tech to compete against GoToMeeting, Webex, Lync, etc.
- IoT -- skeptical, but potentially building the backbone platform for all future "smart" objects: wearables, cars, appliances, etc. [Currently "Project Ion"]
Just my $0.05 (they eliminated the penny in Canada, so my "two cents" doesn't apply anymore!)
Posted via CB10Lefty724 likes this.12-04-14 08:01 PMLike 1 - Well I am one of the ones that's perfectly happy with my Q10....a tool belt would make it perfect! I think the Classic will fit my needs just perfect. The Q10 specs are all I need for me to be happy.
I know this is a discussion board and all but if you don't like the specs of the Classic, just buy a Passport and move on? Pretty easy imo.
Not sure why all hate towards the Classic and its specs.12-04-14 08:49 PMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1012-05-14 08:44 AMLike 0 - I agree with you to a point...I never thought about size being a factor here, which is also a problem.
My point being if you're after specs, then go Passport and be done with it....
If you want specs and a good size, then maybe the Z30 (never had one) would be the way to go?
Again, all I want is a Q10 with a tool belt. I don't care about specs, camera, etc... I also think that $449 is a great price considering how nice the Q10 is/was, especially with the addition of the tool belt.
This Classic will be my main phone for personal and business use and I think it's priced fair for what you get?HighFlight88 likes this.12-05-14 09:11 AMLike 1 - I agree with you to a point...I never thought about size being a factor here, which is also a problem.
My point being if you're after specs, then go Passport and be done with it....
If you want specs and a good size, then maybe the Z30 (never had one) would be the way to go?
Again, all I want is a Q10 with a tool belt. I don't care about specs, camera, etc... I also think that $449 is a great price considering how nice the Q10 is/was, especially with the addition of the tool belt.
This Classic will be my main phone for personal and business use and I think it's priced fair for what you get?
?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1012-05-14 10:05 AMLike 0
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