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- OmnitechDragon Slayer
That point seems to get abused a lot and shoehorned into allegedly "proving" just about any particular stance people feel like trotting it out as so-called "proof" for.
What we know is that CB users are probably not perfectly representative of the entire userbase. What we do not know is how exactly they differ from the "typical" user.
We ALSO know that the VAST MAJORITY of CB users are not squeaky wheels in the forums.
Well you can't generate news on a platform that has no news associated with it.
- Yes, there are only 49 completely dedicated forum sections here for legacy OS users. There is really no place for them to go around here.
- BBOS app development is almost dead, there is rarely any news to report in this area, however Alicia Ehrlich does do an "App Roundup" blog post on BBOS apps from time-to-time anyway.
- BBOS OS development is completely dead, so there is virtually never any news to report in this category.
- There are rarely any new BBOS devices released, so there is no news to report here. When they do get released (e.g. the 9720), Crackberry reports on them.
Whereas BB10 is a dynamic platform, lots of changes happening all the time, new apps, new OS builds, new company announcements, new partnerships, etc etc. OF COURSE there is more news to report in this category. That has nothing to do with whether CB is "unfriendly" to legacy OS users. Any more than a general automobile forum is "unfriendly" to owners of a 1957 Chevrolet.
No it is not. There is a lot of activity on the legacy OS forums. Perhaps you think that because you don't frequent them?
Does the following small snippet look like a "ghost town" to you? (Bear in mind I captured that at 12:30AM, so a lot of the "yesterday" activity in reality is really "today")Last edited by Omnitech; 03-01-14 at 04:01 PM. Reason: grammar correction
03-01-14 03:01 AMLike 2 - OmnitechDragon Slayer
I don't disagree, but in my view at least half of that reason is poor UI design in BB10, which could be fixed.
Go run an Android app on BB10 and compare the predictability of cursor movement and text copying to BB10. World of difference, once you understand how each works. Same physical device. Both are touch UI's.
That is definitely one of the features of the legacy devices that I never understood why they thought was so uninteresting to not offer any equivalent in BB10. Other than their initial "puritanism" that they were going to set out some not particularly fully fleshed-out concrete design paradigms that could never be crossed.
It was an ambitious concept, but unfortunately, Apple UI designers they are not. And they handicapped the TAT people, so we ended up with a "meh" UI.
Someone already explained earlier ITT that there are gloves that can be used to solve that problem on a touchscreen.
I don't necessarily disagree with that, but that statement in and of itself is sort of sad, really. Something highly ironic about so-called "power users" being technically illiterate. Perhaps the label "power user" might be mis-applied in this case..03-01-14 03:16 AMLike 0 - OmnitechDragon Slayer
Re: the Z3 being a touch device, you realize that the device that BB was planning to introduce into the Indonesian market, before Chen made the Foxconn deal, was a QWERTY device, right?
It had already passed through the telecom certification process there.
Clearly Chen & Co. figured out what the Indonesians really wanted, before it was too late.
And guess what: it dovetails perfectly with what my own poll of Indonesian Crackberry users said they wanted, overwhelmingly.
Inconvenient data-points...
More inconvenient data points for the True Believers.03-01-14 04:09 AMLike 2 - Re: the Z3 being a touch device, you realize that the device that BB was planning to introduce into the Indonesian market, before Chen made the Foxconn deal, was a QWERTY device, right?
It had already passed through the telecom certification process there.
Clearly Chen & Co. figured out what the Indonesians really wanted, before it was too late.
And guess what: it dovetails perfectly with what my own poll of Indonesian Crackberry users said they wanted, overwhelmingly.
Inconvenient data-points...
More inconvenient data points for the True Believers.
It's hold on to the keyboard fans or nothing for BlackBerry at the moment.
And they know it.
Edit: and whatever pools BlackBerry have been following for the past 2 years have been clearly 100% wrong. They simply asked the wrong people, they asked the entire market, not existing BlackBerry users be they corporate or private users.
Sent from my iPhone using CB Forums03-01-14 04:27 AMLike 0 - "I don't necessarily disagree with that, but that statement in and of itself is sort of sad, really. Something highly ironic about so-called "power users" being technically illiterate. Perhaps the label "power user" might be mis-applied in this case"
I don't understand your confusion, power users are just that, users, they don't need to know how things work, they just need it to work.
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Posted via CB10kbz1960 likes this.03-01-14 09:09 AMLike 1 - All the apps were basically installed and ran securely in the ram, that's what made BB so secure. The more apps you used the more that memory would diminish.
For the record BB10 also suffers from some mysterious disappearing internal memory, some blame the android part for it. BB10 just happened to have plenty of it otherwise you'd see bigger problems.
Sent from my iPhone using CB Forums03-01-14 09:14 AMLike 0 - OmnitechDragon Slayer
You just love to trump things up on the products you don't like, eh?
There is no "disappearing memory".
There is an "Other storage" (not RAM) pool that is not end-user documented. It is basically protected storage on the device and not user-accessible. The assumption is that this is where apps, app installers and protected app data reside by default in order to make it hard to view, copy or exploit protected content.
Probably if I installed the BB10 developer tools I could learn more about that, but since I'm not an app developer I never bothered to do that.03-01-14 03:39 PMLike 0 - You just love to trump things up on the products you don't like, eh?
There is no "disappearing memory".
There is an "Other storage" (not RAM) pool that is not end-user documented. It is basically protected storage on the device and not user-accessible. The assumption is that this is where apps, app installers and protected app data reside by default in order to make it hard to view, copy or exploit protected content.
Probably if I installed the BB10 developer tools I could learn more about that, but since I'm not an app developer I never bothered to do that.
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If you're not talking about RAM then you're not talking about internal memory, you're getting it confused with internal storage.
Posted via CB10 on Z30 STA100-2 /10.2.1.1925 on O2 UK - Activated on BES10.2.103-01-14 04:05 PMLike 0 -
Samsung calls them memory cards. Since when this is not proper terminology?
http://m.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mem...s-accessories/
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