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You must be taking more time than me then to swipe up on a touch screen because I can swipe up from the bottom of my Z phones just as quickly as I can press a physical button on my 9860. You don't need to swipe up very far on a BB10 phone, a short quick flick of the finger is enough, maybe you aren't doing it like that?
Video games often require near instantaneous input. A smartphone does not REQUIRE near instantaneous input, unless you're playing a game and then you use specific controls for fast input. Hypothetically speaking will it kill anyone if a user input action in BB10 takes half a second longer or even a whole second compared to BBOS? You talk like it's premeditated murder.
I think it may well be that your perception of how far you have to move your finger when doing swipe gestures in BB10 is a little off the way it actually is. You don't have to move your finger inches for most of the gestures, particularly not the swipe up to leave an app. A short flick is enough.
Also I think when you use the word 'intensive' it gives an image of exhausting physical labour. Intensive exercise is where you exert yourself to the point of being unable to continue. Not quite what happens when using a smartphone! Maybe saying which one requires more effort rather than which is the most 'intensive' would be a better way of phrasing it.
Yes you're right sorry, it's been a long time since I fired up the 9860, so I honestly had forgotten that the back button retraces your steps between the apps you were in before going back to the home screen. The 9860 is a phone with many problems, it's unfinished and they didn't bother to finish it in any of the updates, so I hate using it now compared to my Z phones, it stays off a lot now.
For me personally I find it no more effort to reach and swipe than to reach and press a button. Perhaps you own or have used a Q10 that you held with both hands, with your thumbs over the keyboard? The Z series intuitively encourage you to hold in one hand as they are easier to type on with one thumb than a Q10 is with one thumb. I usually do hold either of my Z's one handed, unless I'm going to be typing a lot, so swiping with the thumb of the hand that's holding it is a piece of cake. Remember on my 9860 reaching for the function keys and touchpad at the bottom is a pain in the thumb!
Woah there! Turn off the hate tap mate. I was not trying to be condescending towards you at all. 'My friend' is a term of endearment where I'm from, I say it all the time.
And I'm not attempting to change the subject or trying to say that you are too old to be using your phone correctly by mentioning that in my experience, where I work and train people in using mobile devices as part of my job, the more elderly people are the ones who struggle the most with technology in general and with change. It's just the way it is, the older they are the less likely they grew up with technology and the more alien it is to them unless they made a big effort to get in to it during their working life or their personal life when they were younger.
I work in local government with elected members, most of whom are retired from their careers even before they stand for election. So when I say elderly I mean elderly, one of my BlackBerry users is pushing on 80 and still going strong! Try teaching Windows 8 on a Surface to a guy born in 1935!
The award for the most "they're all out to get me" member of CrackBerry forums? Possibly.
Clearly user input being ultimately efficient down to the millisecond is important to you. Great, whatever floats your boat. For most people there are many more things in this day and age that they expect from a smartphone that they class as more important than having the phone that allows them to go back a screen faster than any other phone on the planet. It's just not that high on most people's priority list.
Sure, but I'll happily take BB10's ability to do more over BBOS' ability to allow me to do less in more ways.
Just like my Z10 and Z30 don't make me use buttons at the bottom either, things have moved on, virtual has won in the mobile device world. It's just taking the BlackBerry community longer than others to adapt.
So we can stop at 2009? Selecting text hasn't been a 'power use' of a mobile device for a very long time, but the BlackBerry space and time distortion vortex is still active in many parts of the world.
Come on, be honest on a touch screen BBOS7 phone when you're on a screen with lots of fields and buttons like creating or editing a Contact do you scroll around to the field you want to type in with the touchpad or do you just tap the screen to put the cursor straight in the text box? The touchpad is a clumsy way of moving between the UI elements of BBOS7, particularly painful in the Browser, it is only an accurate way of positioning the cursor WITHIN a UI element such as a text box whether single line or muti-line (email, text, BBM). For me that's not enough to justify the reintroduction of the touchpad if it means that it takes up space on the front of the phone when it's not needed, which is most of the time in BB10's case.
What the? What on Earth did you find insulting now?! Do you get a lot of people on here having a go at you or something? You seem to be automatically assuming that things I say about OTHERS are aimed directly at you. You're not Marvin the Paranoid Android are you mate?!
Yep it has if means that screen space is sacrificed so that something can be put on the front of the phone to assist with 'accuracy' for that 0.1% of the time using it that you absolutely must select text accurately within 4 seconds or you'll die.
Most people want a large wide high res bright screen on their phone without the phone itself being much larger than the screen (narrow bezels). They are perfectly willing to sacrifice text selection accuracy for that. Apple and Samsung don't seem to be losing customers due to lack of "text selection assistance" hardware.
Nothing, never said it did. I was talking about what's considered 'power use' in 2014 and it isn't selecting text in 3 seconds as opposed to 5 seconds.
Soooo.....you just assumed that I didn't ask them any specific questions because I assumed you wouldn't be presumptuous enough to think that I recorded their feedback without doing exactly such as to not do so would make the data irrelevant by virtue of it being anecdotal and incomparable between users? Come on fella, stop yanking my chain! lol
Then you take it wrongly. What would you like to know?
Huh?! Where was the dig?! Alright Marvin, as the kids say "what evs!" lol
Posted via CB10 on Z30 STA100-2 /10.2.1.1925 on O2 UK - Activated on BES10.2.1Last edited by johnnyuk; 02-25-14 at 08:56 PM.
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