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BlackBerry announces the BlackBerry Q20 - A keyboard phone with the classic trackpad and function keys | CrackBerry.com07-26-14 09:10 PMLike 0 - Ermmm sorry to disappoint you , bit if you want an example of how Chen defines flagship there's the Passport ! Quad-core Snapdragon CPU, 1440 x 1440 screen, 3 GB RAM, and a 3450 mAh battery, now that's a flagship!
So, with the Classic announced as a flagship device, the Passport coming out first, Blackberry's silence on the Classic's specs, the Classic's being built of premium materials ( which OEMs don't waste on midrange devices) plus being designed for durability and the Classic being the Q10's successor, it's logical that the Classic, apart from the screen size and the tool belt, will have the Passport's specs. Oh and a newer version of Blackberry 10 of course!07-27-14 09:52 AMLike 0 -
- Ermmm sorry to disappoint you , bit if you want an example of how Chen defines flagship there's the Passport ! Quad-core Snapdragon CPU, 1440 x 1440 screen, 3 GB RAM, and a 3450 mAh battery, now that's a flagship!
So, with the Classic announced as a flagship device, the Passport coming out first, Blackberry's silence on the Classic's specs, the Classic's being built of premium materials ( which OEMs don't waste on midrange devices) plus being designed for durability and the Classic being the Q10's successor, it's logical that the Classic, apart from the screen size and the tool belt, will have the Passport's specs. Oh and a newer version of Blackberry 10 of course!
The Classic is on the same platform as the Z10/Q10/Z30 (i.e. dual-core 8960). The absolute best it can be is Z30 spec, maybe with an extra GB of RAM. That's it.Bacon Munchers likes this.07-27-14 09:55 AMLike 1 - What makes you so certain I'm wrong? Do you have inside information? Source please!
As I stated above ( and I stand by what I said) the Passport's coming first and we know what it's specs will be! Why should the Classic be inferior?
Moreover the 3 devices you cite were released last year. Even the Z30 is 9 months old! That's an eternity in the mobile market and Blackberry has made it absolutely clear that they will be releasing competitive models.
Blackberry has stated so far that the Classic will be a flagship, built of premium materials, will be durable and reliable, will be the Q10's successor, and that Chen is really looking forward to the Classic, even though he was announcing the Passport at the same time! And successor normally means superior specs...
Finally, if you review pics of the Passport and Classic side by side, it quickly becomes clear that the 2 are remarkably similar in size. Go ahead, compare! You'll find the Classic is a bit more narrow.
Yes I may be wrong ( though I don't think so, too much experience) , and if I am I'll admit it. Conversely if I'm correct, I reserve the right to say " I told you so! ". We'll see soon enough! Cheers!07-27-14 10:25 AMLike 0 - What makes you so certain I'm wrong? Do you have inside information? Source please!
As I stated above ( and I stand by what I said) the Passport's coming first and we know what it's specs will be! Why should the Classic be inferior?
Moreover the 3 devices you cite were released last year. Even the Z30 is 9 months old! That's an eternity in the mobile market and Blackberry has made it absolutely clear that they will be releasing competitive models.
Blackberry has stated so far that the Classic will be a flagship, built of premium materials, will be durable and reliable, will be the Q10's successor, and that Chen is really looking forward to the Classic, even though he was announcing the Passport at the same time! And successor normally means superior specs...
Finally, if you review pics of the Passport and Classic side by side, it quickly becomes clear that the 2 are remarkably similar in size. Go ahead, compare! You'll find the Classic is a bit more narrow.
Yes I may be wrong ( though I don't think so, too much experience) , and if I am I'll admit it. Conversely if I'm correct, I reserve the right to say " I told you so! ". We'll see soon enough! Cheers!
And as for competitiveness, competitive to what? The Classic is aimed at people still on BBOS, so anything at all is competitive there.07-27-14 10:32 AMLike 2 -
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There are also plenty of other useful functions that are not games that use a lot of CPU and GPU, but what's even more important is what things might require in the near future that you might miss out on if you're lacking the power to do so. I always like to have something that is slightly overpowered. Since time moves forward and not backward, it doesn't make sense to prepare for the past...
?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1007-27-14 11:40 AMLike 3 - Myself and others have looked through 10.3 OS dumps (http://forums.crackberry.com/news-ru...-names-828586/). The Classic and the Q10 share several hardware components (Bluetooth, graphics, WiFi, etc.), and use the same radio file. Since Passport (8974) and non-Passport (8960) software is wholly incompatible, the Classic therefore uses an 8960 processor.
And as for competitiveness, competitive to what? The Classic is aimed at people still on BBOS, so anything at all is competitive there.
Posted via CB1007-27-14 12:40 PMLike 0 - Competitive with other flagships of course!
I checked the link you provided and I see nothing definitive. 1st it was published under News & Rumours. 2nd ofutur admits it's his interpretation based on OS files ; I know from experience that interpreting such files is tricky, he could easily be wrong. 3rd his information is based upon OS 10.2. 4th , the only other 8960 chips I saw in the list were the Q10, Z10 and Z30, all from last year. 5th conversely the only other 2014 flagship devices listed. Use the 8974 quad - core chip.
Considering my other sources which seem more reliable , I'll go with what I said earlier. If you get hold of more definitive information on the Classic let me know thanks!07-27-14 03:11 PMLike 0 -
- Competitive with other flagships of course!
I checked the link you provided and I see nothing definitive. 1st it was published under News & Rumours. 2nd ofutur admits it's his interpretation based on OS files ; I know from experience that interpreting such files is tricky, he could easily be wrong. 3rd his information is based upon OS 10.2. 4th , the only other 8960 chips I saw in the list were the Q10, Z10 and Z30, all from last year. 5th conversely the only other 2014 flagship devices listed. Use the 8974 quad - core chip.
Considering my other sources which seem more reliable , I'll go with what I said earlier. If you get hold of more definitive information on the Classic let me know thanks!
Posted via CB1007-27-14 03:17 PMLike 0 - Ok, I'll give you #3, but considering that 10.3.0.700 is a dev OS ( e.g. beta) I'd take any conclusions from it with a handful of salt! Besides 10.3 is what the Passport will be running, I believe Chen said the Classic will run 10.3.1.07-27-14 04:03 PMLike 0
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Please correct me if I'm wrong.
PH - BlackBerry 10 - Z10 - deal with it07-27-14 05:23 PMLike 0 -
Does that mean the passport will get the 10.3.1 update when Classic released?
PH - BlackBerry 10 - Z10 - deal with it07-31-14 10:48 AMLike 0 -
One reason why I think the Classic will have Passport level specs ( apart from screen size and tool belt, obviously! ) is the BB7 holdouts. They've already passed up the Q10 and yes, a large part of that is the Q10's lack of a tool belt, but I also think part of the reason is that BB7 to be honest isn't that much of a step back. I still use my old Torch 9810 on a daily basis even with my Q10 and the Torch is still quite capable eveb in 2014!
My point here is that if Chen wants to recruit the holdouts as he stated, he must up the ante, give them a device so good they can't refuse and I don't think a Q10 with a tool belt will do it. OTOH a tool belt flagship device with Passport specs ( again, apart from screen size) would definitely do it I'm thinking !08-01-14 10:05 PMLike 0 -
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?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10Mr4aces likes this.08-05-14 01:32 PMLike 1 - Um, actually, having touch features on the keyboard was an idea I had quite a while ago. Too bad I didn't patent it then, my friend remembered me talking about it years ago when they showed the passport with that feature. I am very much looking forward to getting the convenience of the hard buttons back, and also the trackpad, and would have liked to also have touch features on the keyboard, and high-end specs, I want it all dammit...
?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10Mr4aces likes this.08-06-14 06:52 PMLike 1 - Perhaps, but the touch part of the Passport keyboard has two purposes: be a trackpad (which the Classic already has) and swipe for symbols (i.e. the heart attacks). Or, have a four row keyboard and get rid of the swipe for symbols, making it a fancy trackpad. Not much of a point there.
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