- There's no harm in speculating. Once the specs are officially released, we can look back and see how many predictions were correct.07-08-14 01:05 PMLike 3
- The ppi talk was fun especially with Mr. Diagonal. Haha. Anyway, putting too much pixels is never easy and not the best thing to do. First of all, human eyes does not see pixels at 320+. Having more than that is unnecessary. And more pixels means more power consumption. Having more pixels sacrifice some display factor. Squishing too much pixels in a small device may suffer in contrast, something like that. And yes, Q series doesn't need to be monstrous in specs as it focuses on ease of use and reliability. A little better than Z30 will be good.
BlackBerry 10 - it takes courage to be one of the few07-08-14 05:56 PMLike 0 - I was hoping for a removable/replaceable battery also, but from the looks of the back panel, it doesn't seem that it is meant to slide open easily. There's no seam on it like there is on the Q10.
On the other hand, the Z30's back doesn't slide open either, but with care and patience, I hear you can pry the back off to get at the battery. So... time will tell with the Classic.
My favourite Q10 accessory is still the battery/charger bundle. It's ingenious, and I've never worried about having a dead battery since I bought it. I hope the Classic will have something comparable, but I'm not holding my breath.
Mr4aces likes this.07-08-14 10:30 PMLike 1 - You're... um... talking about an entirely different thing.
He was talking about ppi, pixel per inch. If you keep the same number of pixel but reduce the surface size, you'll end up with larger ppi.
It's not... as you say it... "easier" to "package more ppi on smaller diagonal". Sony's 30" screen needs vastly higher pixels to average to 580ppi as you request, around 3 to 4 times the pixels, maybe about 16k x 9k resolution. They'd need to use the same size of diodes to work
Z10 STL100-1/10.2.1.3175
Pixel size calculator
Based on the calculator, Passport is built using 56 micron sized pixels & 453 PPI.
So, it's possible that Classic has 1080 x 1080 screen resolution on 3.5" diagonal based on 58 micron sized pixel. That works out 436 PPI !
Contrast this with the retina display of 77 micron sized pixel on iPhone 5S.Last edited by mas.quemex; 07-09-14 at 05:25 AM.
07-09-14 02:43 AMLike 0 -
- Hmm... I stumbled upon this pixel size calculator page recently.
Pixel size calculator
Based on the calculator, Passport is built using 56 micron sized pixels & 453 PPI.
So, it's possible that Classic has 1080 x 1080 screen resolution on 3.5" diagonal based on 58 micron sized pixel. That works out 436 PPI !
Contrast this with the retina display of 77 micron sized pixel on iPhone 5S.
Z10 STL100-1/10.2.1.317507-09-14 08:21 PMLike 0 -
Sent from my BlackBerry 9320 using Tapatalkmas_quemex likes this.07-10-14 12:37 AMLike 1 - this discussion has been about speculation of the specs of the classic ur quoted poster is merely offering the opinion that they believe the classic will have 1080 x 1080 resolution at 436 ppi, to me its totally relevant and realistic
Sent from my BlackBerry 9320 using Tapatalkmas_quemex and Mr4aces like this.07-10-14 12:57 AMLike 2 - this discussion has been about speculation of the specs of the classic ur quoted poster is merely offering the opinion that they believe the classic will have 1080 x 1080 resolution at 436 ppi, to me its totally relevant and realistic
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Z10 STL100-1/10.2.1.317507-10-14 01:40 AMLike 0 - OP: "Does anyone know what the specs are for the classic? Like how many MP for the camera?"
Ok, so, stop talking about screens, we're only talking about cameras here guys... ;-)mas_quemex likes this.07-10-14 10:20 AMLike 1 -
I think your hunch will prove wrong, the main selling point of this device is the toolbelt which is probably the reason that it is coming on 10.3.1 rather than 10.3 more than anything else, this device also has to appeal to enterprise customers and they want a cost-effective device that will last the length of any contracts or warranties on it.
To be honest, I would not be at all surprised if this device is pretty much a q10 with a toolbelt, bigger display and bigger battery, that would provide a greater lower-end workhorse for their qwerty users and they have passport for those who want higher specs.07-12-14 01:58 PMLike 0 - They cannot make the jump to 1440x1440 with that device, so there simply isn't any benefit to going beyond the existing 720x720 as they just add costs and fragment the qwerty range for negligible benefits.
I think your hunch will prove wrong, the main selling point of this device is the toolbelt which is probably the reason that it is coming on 10.3.1 rather than 10.3 more than anything else, this device also has to appeal to enterprise customers and they want a cost-effective device that will last the length of any contracts or warranties on it.
To be honest, I would not be at all surprised if this device is pretty much a q10 with a toolbelt, bigger display and bigger battery, that would provide a greater lower-end workhorse for their qwerty users and they have passport for those who want higher specs.07-12-14 02:29 PMLike 0 - Guys, Blackberry said in its official announcement back at the MWC that the Classic ( Q20) would be crafted from premium materials and be built for reliability and durability. John Chen has repeated this a few times and also stated that he's looking forward to the Classic, even with the Passport...
That doesn't sound like a midrange device to me. Given this, I suspect the rumours about the Classic having 1440 x 1440 screen are correct and I also suspect that the Classic will have the same specs as the Passport, other than screen size, obviously! Chen also stated that the Classic is the upgrade for the Q10 which lends credence to the Classic being a premium device theory.
And for those who say that 580+ resolution is impossible, people said the same thing a few years ago about the Retina display. We all know how THAT turned out don't we? Cheers!07-23-14 01:06 AMLike 0 - Guys, Blackberry said in its official announcement back at the MWC that the Classic ( Q20) would be crafted from premium materials and be built for reliability and durability. John Chen has repeated this a few times and also stated that he's looking forward to the Classic, even with the Passport...
That doesn't sound like a midrange device to me. Given this, I suspect the rumours about the Classic having 1440 x 1440 screen are correct and I also suspect that the Classic will have the same specs as the Passport, other than screen size, obviously! Chen also stated that the Classic is the upgrade for the Q10 which lends credence to the Classic being a premium device theory.
And for those who say that 580+ resolution is impossible, people said the same thing a few years ago about the Retina display. We all know how THAT turned out don't we? Cheers!07-23-14 02:15 AMLike 0 - True, premium material don't necessarily indicate flagship specs, but in my experience OEMS don't use premium materials on midrange devices, nor do they invest time and materials on making midrange devices durable ( overly) and reliable.
2nd, Chen stated he was looking forward to the Classic even though he was also announcing the Passport which we know will be a premium device. Plus Blackberry has been silent on the Classic's specs which seems a bit odd if said Classic is midrange. But if it's flagship class, the silence makes sense as BlackBerry wouldn't want to imperil Passport sales.
3rd as I observed above Chen also said the Classic is the successor to the Q10, also a flagship. Not much point in upgrading unless the Classic offers better specs.
I'm just following the evidence and making logical extrapolations from available data. And yes I may be wrong bur don't think so ; I've seen this too many times. We'll see. But if I'm correct, I reserve the right to say "I told you so! "Bonnie Bonzai likes this.07-23-14 08:46 AMLike 1 - True, premium material don't necessarily indicate flagship specs, but in my experience OEMS don't use premium materials on midrange devices, nor do they invest time and materials on making midrange devices durable ( overly) and reliable.
2nd, Chen stated he was looking forward to the Classic even though he was also announcing the Passport which we know will be a premium device. Plus Blackberry has been silent on the Classic's specs which seems a bit odd if said Classic is midrange. But if it's flagship class, the silence makes sense as BlackBerry wouldn't want to imperil Passport sales.
3rd as I observed above Chen also said the Classic is the successor to the Q10, also a flagship. Not much point in upgrading unless the Classic offers better specs.
I'm just following the evidence and making logical extrapolations from available data. And yes I may be wrong bur don't think so ; I've seen this too many times. We'll see. But if I'm correct, I reserve the right to say "I told you so! "
?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1007-23-14 10:32 AMLike 0 - +1 Passport looks interesting, but also looks like a phonebook in some pics. The classic appears to be a more reasonable size, but Im not upgrading to underpowered. .07-23-14 05:56 PMLike 0
- What would make me buy a classic are the following :
- Display as good as Z10 or at least better than Q10.
- battery capacity at least 2800 mAh
- build at least as tough as a 9900. Very tight and sturdy
- a good demo of the advantage of having a track pad + physical keyboard on BB10
- antenna the same with Z30
- and a reasonable price tag
PH - BlackBerry 10 - Z10 - deal with it07-24-14 10:16 AMLike 2
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