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  1. M_Ward's Avatar
    It's a risk not doing it

    Posted via CB10
    04-08-16 11:49 PM
  2. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    There is already a fix for that. You have to update your runtime via bbworld. There is an article here in crackberry that has the link.

    Posted using the Little Beast Q10
    I've already installed it, but it took weeks for them to issue a fix. And nobody could download it at first because they kept getting some weird network error so they had to issue a fix for that!

    And why couldn't they just push a proper OTA patch, anyway? How many BB10 users out there are not even aware they have a faulty Android Runtime that needs to be patched?

    It's just sad how things have come to this.
    04-09-16 10:50 PM
  3. MikeClassic's Avatar
    If you do decide on a BB10 device, definitely buy used which will save you money. Then you can save your upgrade for something else in case you want to change.
    Do this, 3 out of 4 of my bb10's have been used, all going strong and all half the price of new. Just test the keyboard properly.

    Posted via CB10
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    04-10-16 02:33 AM
  4. JeBe4's Avatar
    Why are you waiting on a contract to end? The Classic is like $299 on Amazon.......Unlocked....

    J Be....Here But Gone...
    04-10-16 05:44 AM
  5. evodevo69's Avatar
    I've already installed it, but it took weeks for them to issue a fix. And nobody could download it at first because they kept getting some weird network error so they had to issue a fix for that!

    And why couldn't they just push a proper OTA patch, anyway? How many BB10 users out there are not even aware they have a faulty Android Runtime that needs to be patched?

    It's just sad how things have come to this.
    This occurs with Android and iOS as well, anytime there is an update.

    Posted via CB10
    04-10-16 01:05 PM
  6. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    This occurs with Android and iOS as well, anytime there is an update.

    Posted via CB10
    Apple pushes iOS updates to all supported devices. It doesn't make them download patches via the App Store.
    04-10-16 02:39 PM
  7. MDoza's Avatar
    Yes sir. In my opinion you will be fine. I was able to get a patched google play on my phone even and it has been running apps and everything totally fine.

    Posted via CB10 on BlackBerry Classic
    04-10-16 04:51 PM
  8. tomskee's Avatar
    Honestly, this is my first BlackBerry & it is damn satisfying to type on this keyboard. I have been on this thing damn near nonstop since I got it this Friday & it's nice. I am coming from a One+1 & Nexus 5 before that & since my primary use of ANY phone is Twitter & Tumblr, I find no problem with this. I seriously doubt BlackBerry would be irresponsible enough to release a phone & not support it for at least the two year upgrade cycle so I think you're safe.

    Posted via CB10
    04-11-16 01:37 AM
  9. mkwbold's Avatar
    Got mine 3 months ago and love it. This is the best phone I've ever had N bar none!!

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    04-12-16 07:09 PM
  10. DreadPirateRegan's Avatar
    Not if you like BB10 and want to be part of this great time on the greatest OS ever created as it could be the end or beginning however either way, you will be part of it even if it becomes history and I am proud to be in the nix right now, even moreso if it is doomed to become history! Enjoying this Passport SE!..

    Posted via CB10
    04-12-16 07:13 PM
  11. axe50's Avatar
    Not to sound like the odd one out, but I think investing in the platform now comes with a considerable risk.

    Here's the honest truth:

    You're not going to get any updates, barring security updates which will be rare and result in even your browser being severely deprecated.

    As the device and platform grow older and more isolated, there will be less interest and more things will stop working - case in point the Starbucks app as of this week, Google Talk after this month and whatsapp later this year. I used all of these daily at work and to communicate so my bb10 has become a brick.

    The cameras are at least a couple years behind the times, if you are concerned with that, as I was between taking pics of my kids and taking captures of whiteboards at work. BlackBerry cameras take too long to focus, are crap in low light and just generally underwhelming.

    Will you be secure? Sure. About as secure as someone being able to hack my Olympus typewriter.

    I would strongly consider going to another platform.. . Get an android and install Cobalts Priv apps on it, or if you really do go for the classic, then buy it outright as you won't get 2 years out of it. if you are truly wedded BlackBerry and a keyboard, get a Priv, but bb10 is dead.

    Posted via CB10
    04-12-16 09:04 PM
  12. yohannrjm's Avatar
    Well, I returned to a Classic just this week.......from a Priv and a Note 4.

    However, I will not suggest that anyone else should go this route. I've 'returned' to a dead platform in the Nokia N9 (the only commercial Meego phone) in the past, and I did it with my eyes open - knowing that the platform was dead and that apps and support would slowly erode. That is exactly what happened.

    The BB10 phones will probably have a longer life than the N9 (it was declared dead before it was released), but exactly the same thing will happen to them. We have already seen Facebook and WhatsApp pull support, and that will just continue. As long as we're able to run Android apps on the runtime, things will not be all bad, but that could change quickly too.

    I love BB10, and I love the Passport and Classic. When I first got the Priv, I got rid of my Passport and Classic because they were eating into my commitment to the Priv. However, I missed them so much that I re-acquired them.

    And I still will not recommend them to anyone else. If you're like me and you walk into this knowing what to expect, you may be happy, but that's something only you can decide. Most people will not be best served with a BB10 phone.
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    04-12-16 09:24 PM
  13. DreadPirateRegan's Avatar
    Well, I returned to a Classic just this week.......from a Priv and a Note 4.

    However, I will not suggest that anyone else should go this route. I've 'returned' to a dead platform in the Nokia N9 (the only commercial Meego phone) in the past, and I did it with my eyes open - knowing that the platform was dead and that apps and support would slowly erode. That is exactly what happened.

    The BB10 phones will probably have a longer life than the N9 (it was declared dead before it was released), but exactly the same thing will happen to them. We have already seen Facebook and WhatsApp pull support, and that will just continue. As long as we're able to run Android apps on the runtime, things will not be all bad, but that could change quickly too.

    I love BB10, and I love the Passport and Classic. When I first got the Priv, I got rid of my Passport and Classic because they were eating into my commitment to the Priv. However, I missed them so much that I re-acquired them.

    And I still will not recommend them to anyone else. If you're like me and you walk into this knowing what to expect, you may be happy, but that's something only you can decide. Most people will not be best served with a BB10 phone.
    I agree but I'd recommend them to anyone and everyone because I will do anything no matter how small to try to save the platform and it's also because we'll, the Passport is the greatest device every created IMO even in 2016!

    If a passport se 2 came out tomorrow with even higher specs. I would buy it if it cane with a slip saying platform dead!.. LOL

    I love that hexacore snapdragon, is that the 805? Like the idea of it as always thought the eight was overkill however if it is the 805 heard it has heating issues so this snapdragon 801 is NICE.......

    Posted via CB10
    04-12-16 10:31 PM
  14. Marcin Dabrowsky's Avatar
    Bought a blue classic today. Also a passport se.

    I don't use fb. I don't use whatsapp I don't use snapchat. I don't care about apps. I use phone to text email and read news.

    Great phone and great kb. Can't go wrong. These are awesome unless you are someone hooked on the social app bs. I'm antisocial and my personality test said a bit psychopathic (which incidentally would make me a great CEO and bb10 works great for ceos). I lost my train of thought.

    I don't care.

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    04-12-16 11:33 PM
  15. Trist's Avatar
    My current contract runs out in october of this year and i would really like to return to bb with the classic. So my main question/concern is it worth it? Will bb 10 be available and usable over the next couple of years with updates. I must point out i dont use any of the social media sites or play games on my phone. At the moment i'm on android and wish to return to bb. I have been checking on the forum on and off for months now but cant find any definate answers that may make my mind up for sure. Any help or advice would be appreciated . Thanks in advance.
    You have a lot of time 'til then and there are speculations for another blackberry device (albeit android-powered). Personally, BB10 is a great device and I love using it over my iphone 6+. Updates or not I'm glad I joined the party while I can. It may be a smarter choice to buy one away from carriers' retail price. And people are also saying that BlackBerry will support it for at least couple more years due to corporate devices.

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    04-12-16 11:35 PM
  16. AhmedVitome's Avatar
    You will have just two months before WhatsApp disconnection and end it support for BlackBerry smartphones and i see that the WhatsApp the messenger in this device you will miss WhatsApp and Facebook if you can go without them do go for it

    Posted via CB10
    04-13-16 12:33 AM
  17. DreadPirateRegan's Avatar
    You will have just two months before WhatsApp disconnection and end it support for BlackBerry smartphones and i see that the WhatsApp the messenger in this device you will miss WhatsApp and Facebook if you can go without them do go for it

    Posted via CB10
    It's not set it stone when they will stop working dude. That is end of support for those apps in which will prob still function for a few years like others have in the past and there is always the android app to install or browser edition. Tired saying this.

    The truth is nobody knows not even me but from the past what I said is prob how it will go down... slowly, not abruptly.

    Posted via CB10
    04-13-16 01:03 AM
  18. Bbnivende's Avatar
    Just bought a new Classic. They will not stop working because the company does not support the OS any more. Think of windows XP story...no longer supported by microsoft but any PC having it installed will still work.

    Posted via CB10
    Except those other programs not made for XP anymore like my Income Tax program.

    Posted via CB10
    04-13-16 01:06 AM
  19. tb62's Avatar
    Never been happier getting back to the BlackBerry Classic does everything I want and plenty of apps, this phone will be about for years and it's one of the best built phones around - no regrets

    Posted via CB10
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    04-13-16 01:14 PM
  20. falbo's Avatar
    Thanks all for the advice, im still determined to get a classic but will wait until my contract is due for renewal. Having four other phone users in the house i cant just buy one out right of amazon as i advised the others to wait until their contracts ended before renewing . So i will keep watching the forum and see what happens .
    04-15-16 03:55 AM
  21. schlemer's Avatar
    And I still will not recommend them to anyone else. If you're like me and you walk into this knowing what to expect, you may be happy, but that's something only you can decide. Most people will not be best served with a BB10 phone.
    Ditto. I would not recommend a BB10 device to anyone seeking major app support. I love my Classic and Passport. Like you, I walked into it "eyes wide open". I've not felt any frustrations with my devices, nor did I feel they were inadequate to handle the things I needed them to do. It was my choice and I really never cared if I fit in with the status quo.

    I really can't stress this enough. I have never, ever liked the iphone. My wife has used a 3gs, 4s and currently has a 6. So I've been around them for many years. Android/Google, I have no issues with and I use them at home in a media setting (google play movies and music). The Priv was not an option for me because it did not measure up hardware wise in my opinion. My Classic just feels right every time I take hold and start using it. My Passport is my sit back and chill device. I love the form factor and the clarity of the wide screen makes my eyes very happy. The quality of these two devices just bleed Blackberry through and through.

    If indeed we only have two years with BB10, then so be it. Nothing lasts forever and I'm just going to enjoy my "Sons of Plunder" for as long as I can.

    Cheers.
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    04-15-16 07:30 AM
  22. Trist's Avatar
    As for Whatsapp, can't people just download it from Google Play Store and run it that way?

    I'm running Kakao messenger headless using Cobalt's method, and I'm sure Line messenger is the same. Not sure about Whatsapp.

    Posted via CB10
    04-15-16 08:31 AM
  23. DreadPirateRegan's Avatar
    As for Whatsapp, can't people just download it from Google Play Store and run it that way?

    I'm running Kakao messenger headless using Cobalt's method, and I'm sure Line messenger is the same. Not sure about Whatsapp.

    Posted via CB10
    Link to how to run Kakao headless? Not in the hub right?..

    I love IMO the quality has became double as good in the last three updates! Works well with the passport se to as do not need to keep it open, etc....

    Been begging IMO to pick up the slack and add a bar file for imo as they could gain millions of users, they said they are lookibg into it.

    For anybody who dunno, there is yet another whatsapp update coming, you can get in now in blackberry beta zone...

    Posted via CB10
    04-15-16 05:21 PM
  24. Michael Tython's Avatar
    No, not a risk. In fact, a wise decision.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    04-15-16 05:58 PM
  25. miguel11691's Avatar
    I bought a Q5 this week and I don't regret it one bit... this OS is great and will have at least 2 years left in it... I had the classic and Q10 last year and year before that... left to android but always come back because this OS is just that good

    Posted via CB10
    04-15-16 06:30 PM
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