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Q10 Posted via CB1006-27-14 11:09 PMLike 0 - Hopefully there won't be any of the new BB10 gestures on the Classic. Isn't the main point of the classic to be like classic BlackBerry devices. Ya know, the devices that didn't depend on gestures?
My Bold 9930 had one gesture, swipe down for notifications. Hopefully the BlackBerry Classic is the same way. With a track pad and all those physical buttons, the last thing I'd want to do is still need to swipe and flip across the screen non stop.06-28-14 08:21 PMLike 0 - I would hope Classic has all the gestures built in as the Q10 does, since this is supposed to be the successor. Both is fine as we can choose if we want to use gestures or trackpad.
Q10, running 10.2.1.2141Thunderbuck and Giro_UK like this.06-28-14 09:11 PMLike 2 - Hopefully there won't be any of the new BB10 gestures on the Classic. Isn't the main point of the classic to be like classic BlackBerry devices. Ya know, the devices that didn't depend on gestures?
My Bold 9930 had one gesture, swipe down for notifications. Hopefully the BlackBerry Classic is the same way. With a track pad and all those physical buttons, the last thing I'd want to do is still need to swipe and flip across the screen non stop.
Posted via CB1006-28-14 09:42 PMLike 0 - Hopefully there won't be any of the new BB10 gestures on the Classic. Isn't the main point of the classic to be like classic BlackBerry devices. Ya know, the devices that didn't depend on gestures?
My Bold 9930 had one gesture, swipe down for notifications. Hopefully the BlackBerry Classic is the same way. With a track pad and all those physical buttons, the last thing I'd want to do is still need to swipe and flip across the screen non stop.
?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10?06-28-14 10:49 PMLike 0 -
Allowing both would be awesome as long as they give us the ability to disable the gestures completely, but this is BB10 we're talking about. It isn't very option friendly.06-29-14 01:17 AMLike 0 - What happens when your thumb accidentally slips up while you're using the trackpad? Oops, you just accidentally minimized the app you were working in. That's just one reason why I can see having gestures on the Classic could be a major pia. Heck, myself and many others already accidentally minimize apps on the Q10 while scrolling. I imagine it will be even worse on the Classic with such a small space in between the screen and trackpad.
Allowing both would be awesome as long as they give us the ability to disable the gestures completely, but this is BB10 we're talking about. It isn't very option friendly.06-29-14 02:34 AMLike 0 - I don't know about you, but I don't have Parkinson's or any other trouble with my nervous system that affects my motor control. I used the 9900, which had both a touchscreen and a track pad, and I've never, not once, accidentally touched the screen while using the track pad... But I guess if you really think this is a possibility, maybe they will do something about it in a future update. But I'm not too worried about it...
Touch being redundantly useless with a properly implemented trackpad, a simple checkbox option to disable the touch digitizer should be a "no brainer" imo.06-29-14 08:48 AMLike 0 - Early 9900's seemed to be more prone to that problem than later ones. Not sure what changed... OS or HW?? Back when we were starting to transition to the 9900, the first time (nearly 3 yrs ago), we started shimming up the upper part of the keyboard to raise the trackpad's elevation an additional .010" above the touchscreen. End of problem. The later 9900's we've migrated back to, a few months ago, don't seem prone to the issue. Most irritating was while scrolling down a web page using the trackpad, the tip of your thumb might accidentally touch an embedded link on the web page and jump off to that. A quick punch of the return button gets you back but irritating, none the less. Like i said, these newer 9900's are virtually no-problem. BB obviously fixed something in the interim.
Touch being redundantly useless with a properly implemented trackpad, a simple checkbox option to disable the touch digitizer should be a "no brainer" imo.06-29-14 10:44 AMLike 0 -
The trackpad on that phone is so close to being flush with the display that you must have actually made a concentrated effort to make sure that that would never happen. Did you really spend the time and effort ensuring that you're thumb never once touched the display? Why would you have? If ya did, it must have been very stressful for you to use that phone. Always planning your next move to ensure that your thumb never once slid up too far.
I get that you're trying to prove a point, but seriously, you NEVER did it? Sure.06-29-14 11:18 AMLike 0 - Maybe you're just a super hero or a strange mutant with super precise thumbs. Are you a plastic surgeon by chance? You claim that you "never" did it. As in not once? Sorry, I'm not buying it. So what, you're gonna claim that you never used a 99 with one hand and NEVER once touched the display while using the trackpad? You never once used your 99 in the middle of the night after waking up but while you were still half asleep and accidentaly touched the display while using the track pad? Never? Not once? Lol bull.
The trackpad on that phone is so close to being flush with the display that you must have actually made a concentrated effort to make sure that that would never happen. Did you really spend the time and effort ensuring that you're thumb never once touched the display? Why would you have? If ya did, it must have been very stressful for you to use that phone. Always planning your next move to ensure that your thumb never once slid up too far.
I get that you're trying to prove a point, but seriously, you NEVER did it? Sure.06-29-14 11:38 AMLike 0 - It's not even about being clumsy. It is just a part of how we use trackpads, and how they work and how the 99 was designed. I don't know about you, but I frequently moved my thumb (you used the trackpad with your fingers?) across those trackpads pretty fast while using them. With the trackpad being so flush to the screen, as it is with the Bold 99, it was very easy to touch the display while scrolling pages and lists. I would have believed you if you had said that you rarely accidentally touched the display while using the trackpad, but never is pretty hard to believe. Whatever though.06-29-14 12:30 PMLike 0
- The rumor that I heard on the official BlackBerry forums is that BlackBerry pushed out a OS update that made the area of the screen directly above the touch pad less sensitive. The same rumor also said that they made the proximity sensor more accurate to prevent the accidental button presses with the face. I don't know if any of that is true or not, but I do remember it happening less after the phone got later 7.1 builds. I also remember all of the complaints about it happening and users begging BlackBerry to give them a software option to disable the touchscreen completely because of it, the pocket-dialing and the face button presses.06-29-14 12:37 PMLike 0
- It's not even about being clumsy. It is just a part of how we use trackpads, and how they work and how the 99 was designed. I don't know about you, but I frequently moved my thumb (you used the trackpad with your fingers?) across those trackpads pretty fast while using them. With the trackpad being so flush to the screen, as it is with the Bold 99, it was very easy to touch the display while scrolling pages and lists. I would have believed you if you had said that you rarely accidentally touched the display while using the trackpad, but never is pretty hard to believe. Whatever though.06-29-14 02:17 PMLike 0
- As someone before me said, I see it too as way to push legacy users into BB10 less painfully. I personaly would like and wait eagerly to see what will BB10 look like when used with trackpad and Berry(menu) button.
Posted via CB1006-29-14 05:33 PMLike 0 -
- I believe you. Some individual devices were more prone than others. Did you ever compare trackpad elevation on your device against a "problem" device? Maybe yours was one of the elevated ones. ? Out of 26 devices, Fall of 2011, 5 users had no issues and openly wondered what all the fuss was about. Including one of our "smart guys". He took one of the problem devices home one night and came back the next day resolved to fix the problem. His observation was that the belt & trackpad on the non-problem devices was slightly elevated above the screen compared to problem devices. About .010" as I recall. We chalked it up to production tolerances and proceeded to file tabs & fit some adhesive backed mylar tape under the tool belt to raise its elevation about .010. Our poor IT guy threw a fit over us modifying brand new devices but user complaints mostly stopped.06-30-14 07:01 AMLike 0
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