- For all the doubters, I too wondered about bringing back the track pad on a touch screen BlackBerry 10 device...
HOWEVER ...the obvious use for a track pad came to me last night....
I had my Z10 plugged into a hdmi port into a 38" screen and was using the BBC app/ Web page...i had to keep looking back at my phone to select stuff on the Web page by touch.
With a track pad, and the HDMI plugged into the Classic, I could've navigated the website I suppose WITHOUT looking down at my phone and defeating the object of plugging in to a big screen.
Also consider those doing a presentation from their phone and wanting to use the cursor to highlight stuff...remember BlackBerry Bridge with the Playbook?? I guess it'll work like that almost, using the smaller device as a navigation for the big screen however in this case it'll be a track pad.
I use Salesforce on my Z10 and sometimes plug it into a big screen for ease of use...i sit far away from the screen on a long HDMI cable... Essentially the cursor would be useful for navigation so I didn't have to keep looking at the mini screen but could just put my thumb on the track pad and watch the large screen...i expect Q10 users have this problem too.
Plus the obvious use of cursor movement during typing.
It's a means to an end I suppose and when you actually think about it, it is clever.
Think business users and practical use and the options it opens up..as mentioned,finger print scanner, cursor movement, presentation usage, navigation...
Another cool addition I hope the 1:1 aspect phones would have is an intuitive HDMI display that could say for example, output movies or screens to 16:9 if required....its no good having HDMI output if it then only shows 1:1 also.
Posted from my BlackBerry Z10...
Posted from my BlackBerry Z10...06-21-14 03:22 AMLike 4 - There's nothing to "bring back". Last I heard, trackpad 9900s are still in current production and brand new ones can be purchased. The 9900 is still waiting for OS & other upgrades and that's the Q20's obvious mission.TonyBeaumont likes this.06-21-14 06:06 AMLike 1
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Does it pain you for that to be clarified for them?
if my post is excessively off topic, I apologize and mods are always free to remove.CpE CKS likes this.06-21-14 08:40 AMLike 1 - .
Another cool addition I hope the 1:1 aspect phones would have is an intuitive HDMI display that could say for example, output movies or screens to 16:9 if required....its no good having HDMI output if it then only shows 1:1 also.
Posted from my BlackBerry Z10...
Posted from my BlackBerry Z10...CpE CKS likes this.06-21-14 09:20 AMLike 1 -
Posted from my BlackBerry Z10...06-21-14 05:42 PMLike 0 - I used to love the Trackpad on my 9900 but have been all for touch screen and gesture....
But now again, despite bb10 gesture also see the point of a Trackpad.
Thank you for your supportive comment and to idsteve, come on, you know what I meant....
Posted from my BlackBerry Z10...06-21-14 05:45 PMLike 0 - I used to love the Trackpad on my 9900 but have been all for touch screen and gesture....
But now again, despite bb10 gesture also see the point of a Trackpad.
Thank you for your supportive comment and to idsteve, come on, you know what I meant....
Posted from my BlackBerry Z10...
I totally agree that the trackpad makes an excellent pointing device. I especially like your observation that that single handed usefulness could readily extrapolate to large external displays without taking your eyes from the screen. I tend to believe track to be a superior pointing strategy to touch in most respects, IMO.
Too many ppl in these threads are too eager to condescendingly marginalize trackpad as "obsolete", "old", etc... technology and I've grown excessively defensive about it. I do know what you meant and certainly don't include you in that group. Just sought to clarify for anyone that might not know what you meant. Give the word & I'll delete the thing. ???06-21-14 10:00 PMLike 0 - To idssteve, no need buddy... let's just continue the discussion....
Basically my post was because I'd read all the threads of people saying "Trackpad is old,no need for it"...and as many saying "it's awesome, bring it to bb10"...
However I'd not really considered the positives or negatives of doing this other than it removes screen space...but as I say when you think about it, and for perhaps gaming also, that it's got many many uses that perhaps for BBOS weren't exploited...
Posted from my BlackBerry Z10...idssteve likes this.06-22-14 12:07 PMLike 1 - To idssteve, no need buddy... let's just continue the discussion....
Basically my post was because I'd read all the threads of people saying "Trackpad is old,no need for it"...and as many saying "it's awesome, bring it to bb10"...
However I'd not really considered the positives or negatives of doing this other than it removes screen space...but as I say when you think about it, and for perhaps gaming also, that it's got many many uses that perhaps for BBOS weren't exploited...
Posted from my BlackBerry Z10...
As for eating up screen-estate, trackpad navigation simply doesn't require the screen space demanded by finger navigation. The relatively small screen on my 9900 works just fine simply because of its trackpad. The single pixel tip of a track arrow pointer is about 0.0035" wide. My finger is about 0.75" wide. (Uh, that translates to: 0.09mm vs 19mm for mm minded folks. ) Track is ideal for smaller sceens on smaller devices, IMO.06-22-14 02:11 PMLike 0 - There's a place for "soft" pushbuttons and a place for hard wired pushbuttons. I've designed, installed and implemented hundreds of custom touchscreen hmi's for industrial controls since the early 90's. No person in their right mind would use "soft" pb's to implement safety or critical functions. Critical & safety functions are ALWAYS implement via hard wired contacts. There are numerous industry standards and codes around the world governing that. The "end" button may not be considered safety critical, depending on individual users. It IS mission critical, in the business world, to assure a call is positively disconnected. Failure to do so cost my company BIG $$ last year. Hardwired pushbutton is appropriate "end", IMO.06-22-14 02:16 PMLike 2
- To idssteve, no need buddy... let's just continue the discussion....
Basically my post was because I'd read all the threads of people saying "Trackpad is old,no need for it"...and as many saying "it's awesome, bring it to bb10"...
However I'd not really considered the positives or negatives of doing this other than it removes screen space...but as I say when you think about it, and for perhaps gaming also, that it's got many many uses that perhaps for BBOS weren't exploited...
Posted from my BlackBerry Z10...
Posted via CB1006-22-14 02:32 PMLike 0 - I'm assuming he means if the trackpad wasn't there the screen could be bigger. Unfortunately that might not be 100% accurate since blackberry needs to maintain the aspect ratio of the screen for developers (a square).
Posted via CB10Prem WatsApp likes this.06-22-14 03:12 PMLike 1 - There's a place for "soft" pushbuttons and a place for hard wired pushbuttons. I've designed, installed and implemented hundreds of custom touchscreen hmi's for industrial controls since the early 90's. No person in their right mind would use "soft" pb's to implement safety or critical functions. Critical & safety functions are ALWAYS implement via hard wired contacts. There are numerous industry standards and codes around the world governing that. The "end" button may not be considered safety critical, depending on individual users. It IS mission critical, in the business world, to assure a call is positively disconnected. Failure to do so cost my company BIG $$ last year. Hardwired pushbutton is appropriate "end", IMO.
?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10?06-22-14 05:08 PMLike 2 - There are so many reasons...but one I will mention. Sending email... as in hitting the "send" button, instead of hitting the + and realizing an hour later the email never sent. I don't even have big thumbs.06-22-14 05:57 PMLike 0
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Zzzzwiped from a Zedevice....Jake Storm likes this.06-30-14 05:35 PMLike 1 - I'm the opposite. None of my friends have a smart tv, and I've used the HDMI port MANY times to save movie nights with friends... Haven't used miracast once. Would want to, maybe I need richer friends...07-01-14 03:09 AMLike 0
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