Loyal BB customers getting screwed while converts get rewarded???
- So, the tactic is that the Q30 will be targeted to attract the "mainstream" crowd while the Classic (Q20) will be for us hardcore BB keyboard lovers who have stuck it out with BB all of this time right?
Well, the rumors have it the Q30 will be getting a bad-*** quad-core CPU, a 13MP camera, 3gb of RAM and 1440x1440 resolution screen.
What are the rumors for the Classic? 2 year old internal specs (Q10 specs) with the same old dual-core CPU with a 720x720 screen??
I'm hoping those rumors are not true and that the final specs are not in yet, meaning they are just testing out the interface with the toolbelt with a dev unit or something, because if that's the case, then that's screwed up that we get screwed while the people they are trying to draw in with the gimmicky 3-row keyboard and the overly fat device will get high-end internal specs...
I hope there is a "Classic" coming out with great specs as well and the traditional keyboard layout...
Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10anon(4185604) and Mr4aces like this.05-16-14 01:25 PMLike 2 - 05-16-14 01:29 PMLike 9
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Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10Pete The Penguin likes this.05-16-14 01:36 PMLike 1 - I think it's a good strategy.
The belt crowd are mostly enterprise users and communication aficionadoes who are having trouble or are reluctant to make the switch to the more modern ui. They typically don't need bleeding edge tech - just a device that gets it done. Likewise their companies don't want to spend a fortune on uber-devices.
It's the rest of use that want/need the high end specs. So put the money where it's most appreciated.
Of course there are a small number of users that don't fit into those categories, but BlackBerry won't survive on them.
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- I think it's a good strategy.
The belt crowd are mostly enterprise users and communication aficionadoes who are having trouble or are reluctant to make the switch to the more modern ui. They typically don't need bleeding edge tech - just a device that gets it done. Likewise their companies don't want to spend a fortune on uber-devices.
It's the rest of use that want/need the high end specs. So put the money where it's most appreciated.
Of course there are a small number of users that don't fit into those categories, but BlackBerry won't survive on them.
Z30STA100-5/10.3.0.296/442bars
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Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1005-16-14 02:17 PMLike 3 - I think it's a good strategy.
The belt crowd are mostly enterprise users and communication aficionadoes who are having trouble or are reluctant to make the switch to the more modern ui. They typically don't need bleeding edge tech - just a device that gets it done. Likewise their companies don't want to spend a fortune on uber-devices.
It's the rest of use that want/need the high end specs. So put the money where it's most appreciated.
Of course there are a small number of users that don't fit into those categories, but BlackBerry won't survive on them.
Z30STA100-5/10.3.0.296/442bars
Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10Anatomy likes this.05-16-14 02:20 PMLike 1 -
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I'm a phone junkie so I'll be getting both devices, most likely. But I doubt I'll use the belt, I've really gotten used to BB10 as is.
As to the specs, who knows, really. BlackBerry has made some decisions I couldn't get behind, like the camera on the 99xx series.
Sent from my AWESOME gold 64G iPhone 5s via Tapatalkpotatoguy likes this.05-16-14 03:02 PMLike 1 - When it comes right down to it people who want the tool belt are the minority. Blackberry is losing lots of money right now and getting new customers is very important. The classic is an easy transition for business, but people who want a physical keyboard, tool belt, and bleeding edge hardware are a small number. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but like it or not that's the case.
Posted via CB10blackmoe likes this.05-16-14 07:14 PMLike 1 - When it comes right down to it people who want the tool belt are the minority. Blackberry is losing lots of money right now and getting new customers is very important. The classic is an easy transition for business, but people who want a physical keyboard, tool belt, and bleeding edge hardware are a small number. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but like it or not that's the case.
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JC claimed the Classic will be a line, how about release a mid-priced version and a high-end version?
Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1005-16-14 07:52 PMLike 0 - The Classic is a niche phone. From the look of it, so is the Windermere. BlackBerry isn't targeting the broad consumer market for a while. This has nothing to do with what anyone deserves.
Sent from my Q10 using Tapatalk05-16-14 09:21 PMLike 6 - When it comes right down to it people who want the tool belt are the minority. Blackberry is losing lots of money right now and getting new customers is very important. The classic is an easy transition for business, but people who want a physical keyboard, tool belt, and bleeding edge hardware are a small number. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but like it or not that's the case.
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Well, people who want Corvettes are also a minority. That flagship has attracted countless customers to "lesser" Chevrolet's for decades. Some legacy users have delayed the transition to glass precisely because they are power users. Selling a trackpad model with less than full power is like selling a Corvette with a four banger.05-16-14 10:32 PMLike 2 - So, the tactic is that the Q30 will be targeted to attract the "mainstream" crowd while the Classic (Q20) will be for us hardcore BB keyboard lovers who have stuck it out with BB all of this time right?
Well, the rumors have it the Q30 will be getting a bad-*** quad-core CPU, a 13MP camera, 3gb of RAM and 1440x1440 resolution screen.
What are the rumors for the Classic? 2 year old internal specs (Q10 specs) with the same old dual-core CPU with a 720x720 screen??
I'm hoping those rumors are not true and that the final specs are not in yet, meaning they are just testing out the interface with the toolbelt with a dev unit or something, because if that's the case, then that's screwed up that we get screwed while the people they are trying to draw in with the gimmicky 3-row keyboard and the overly fat device will get high-end internal specs...
I hope there is a "Classic" coming out with great specs as well and the traditional keyboard layout...
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Posted via CB1005-16-14 10:36 PMLike 0 - Prem WatsAppCrackBerry Jester of JestersYup. You did. Just a bit of good natured joking on my second post. It's Friday and I'm very ready for it.
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I'm a phone junkie so I'll be getting both devices, most likely. But I doubt I'll use the belt, I've really gotten used to BB10 as is.
As to the specs, who knows, really. BlackBerry has made some decisions I couldn't get behind, like the camera on the 99xx series.
Sent from my AWESOME gold 64G iPhone 5s via Tapatalk
On the iPhone? Does that work?
One more reason you gave up the Q10?
"No Q10?" -> "Buy from Chen... "05-16-14 10:54 PMLike 0 -
And I haven't given up the Q10!!!! I use three different phones and I grab whichever is closest. Or the iPhone because Tapatalk on the iPhone alerts me when someone quotes me.
Sent from my AWESOME gold 64G iPhone 5s via Tapatalk05-16-14 11:07 PMLike 0 - I'm very comfortable with the Z10 I've been using for the past year. I still think that the tool belt will come in handy. There are plenty of websites that are loaded in tiny font & links that my fingers cannot tap on accurately unless I enlarge them but I can still read them, so if I have the track pad I'll just slide my finger down the track pad to reach the link I want & tap on the track pad.
This is alot more convenient than having to enlarge the screen to a size that my fingers can tap on & tap the link. In this way I would like to consider myself a super power users & u want high specs. Perhaps it is good for BlackBerry to also have that option for consumers, however looking at the state of the company's finances they have to do what is most cost effective for their survival.
Posted via CB10Mr4aces likes this.05-16-14 11:18 PMLike 1 - Only time will tell what the internal specs of the Classic is going to be, but the point of the classic is to cater to the enterprise users that gave Chen an ear full on wanting the toolbelt back. It does not matter what their paticular reasons for wanting the toolbelt back are, but what I get out of this whole thing is that there must of been a good amount of enterprise customers that requested the toolbelt back because from my understanding the toolbelt was going to be a thing of the past with BB10.
If Blackberry decides to release the classic with the Q10 internal specs, it just one of those things that we will have to deal with as regular users. Keep in mind that Blackberry tooks massive hits with the z10s and maybe with the Q10s, so they maybe gun shy on releasing top of the line specs for a phone that they are not sure how it is going sell. I think of the classic as being a test case and if it sells well, then we can hopefully get a better spec classic when they decide to update the model.
It looks like Foxconn is making the "Q30" (as it seems Foxconn like making square blackberry phones), so that means better purchasing power and thus they can get parts cheaper than Blackberry could if they was making the "Q30". I think Blackberry is making the classic and thus they have to be more conservative on the specs because of the cost.
At the end of the day where else is the toolbelt loving crowd is going to go, if Blackberry does not produce the phone that we want specs wise? We are either going to stay on BBOS phones or upgrade to the classic.
I am going to be upgrading to the classic for the simple fact even with the Q10 specs, it is better than what I have now.gokulesh likes this.05-17-14 01:45 AMLike 1 - Well, as soon as I heard it was called the "Classic", to me that implied it would not be a top spec device. Why would you call something that's cutting edge "classic"?05-17-14 01:51 AMLike 0
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Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10barbarianthemadserb likes this.05-17-14 02:19 AMLike 1 -
Vette's, Cobra's, Challengers, Mustangs, etc aren't built because of the vast numbers they'll sell. Or even the crazy margins they'll command. "Flagships" exist because "consumers" see what Power Users drive into the parking lot. Suburbans, Excursions, Z30's, etc are all fine devices for their intended market. Hwy 101 is a fine highway. Some of us prefer Vettes and Bold's and a good day on Hwy 1.donemt likes this.05-17-14 08:24 AMLike 1
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