06-13-14 06:02 PM
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  1. idssteve's Avatar
    Well, I don't know about y'all, but I am through with room-filling computers that require continuous air conditioning and magnetic tape storage. I'm through, finished, fini, complevit, terminado. No more for me.

    Seriously, it is amazing how much computing power one can hold in ones hand.
    LOL, some of us thought the 9 track IBM 2420 was SO fast... compared with 80bit Hollerith cards, at least. Then came IBM Merlin 3330 "pizza oven" disks with 100MB capacity... how could life get better? Of course the good old IBM System 360 could be had, for a price, with 512K mem and the equivalent of 50Khz processing... All requiring sophisticated environment control including air conditioning. All taking up THOUSANDS of square feet... depending on peripherals, etc...

    These devices that fit in our hand ARE amazing...
    Last edited by idssteve; 05-23-14 at 10:45 PM.
    05-23-14 10:35 PM
  2. anischab's Avatar
    Depends on your needs, mine are pretty high. However one thing I can say about phone and my iPad, is I'm starting to get the idea that I can finally ditch my laptop and get a high end desktop workstation.
    I did that last year... now I am thinking about buying a secound monitor ;-)

    Posted via my BlackBerry*Q10, Germany - SQN100-3, Running OS 10.2.1.2102
    05-23-14 10:40 PM
  3. co4nd's Avatar
    Uh, because a gaming laptop with the same power will cost twice as much and be twice as loud and won't have a monitor as large and beautiful unless I then pay another thousand for an even larger laptop, then the keyboard is also not going to be as good, and cannot adjust the placement and angle like I would want...

    Have you ever considered that MAYBE not everyone has the same needs and preferences as yourself? I know, crazy concept...

    Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10
    Actually you can't get the same power, even high end mobile GPUs run at 5 watts compared to say 200+ on a desktop.
    05-24-14 12:30 AM
  4. idssteve's Avatar
    Actually you can't get the same power, even high end mobile GPUs run at 5 watts compared to say 200+ on a desktop.
    I'd be willing to bet that the "power" he's referring to has more to do with processor Hz, RAM, etc than actual electrical power consumption. Of course the term "power" has been applied to many concepts. Electrical is one of them. P=EI, that is watts = volts x amps. BUT if transformers are involved, as in desktops, Volt-Amp Reactance, or VARs, "apparent power" must be included in power consumption discussions about most desktops i'm familiar with. Their individual VAR consumption is mostly insignificant, but millions of the things collectively add up to significant VAR consumption, world wide. Of course, so-called "green" compact fluorescents can also consume significant VARs, when added collectively.
    05-24-14 08:13 AM
  5. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    Taught the wife how to manage audio and video files. Haven't logged on to our desktop in quite some time. I use a work issued laptop, for work only. Everything else is an iPad. I need the bigger screen.

    Um... Yah... Please don't talk about computers again until after you learn a bit more about them. mmmmkay?

    Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10
    Someone totally missed the sarcasm in the post they were quoting. The word "seriously" was the obvious clue.
    05-25-14 08:53 AM
  6. slagman5's Avatar
    Someone totally missed the sarcasm in the post they were quoting. The word "seriously" was the obvious clue.
    So, he was saying that it's not amazing how much computing mobile devices have now? I think maybe someone needs to reread the statement and then let the original poster claim the sarcasm instead of making assumptions...

    I am probably THE most sarcastic person you will ever meet. The one main point of sarcasm is to prove a point through bringing things into perspective by pretending to play devil's advocate while pointing out bad things as good things or good things as bad things. When you read that statement, what was the goal? How does that statement achieve that goal?

    So as an exercise, let's apply sarcasm to that comment and break it down to see what the main goal, or idea, in it was, and how it achieves it:

    "Well, I don't know about y'all, but I am through with room-filling computers that require continuous air conditioning and magnetic tape storage."

    While this is obviously an exaggeration (hopefully he doesn't actually believe that), it's still portraying publicly accepted negative aspects as negative. Does it achieve what sarcasm sets out to do (prove the opposite point)? No, it's self-supporting...

    "I'm through, finished, fini, complevit, terminado. No more for me."

    Solidifying a point through repetition, nothing sarcastic about this at all (again, doesn't prove the opposite point).

    "Seriously, it is amazing how much computing power one can hold in ones hand."

    Again, does this statement somehow support the idea that mobile phones isn't amazing in the amount of computing power? If you really think a single word will automatically make a comment sarcastic, then seriously, you need to think a little bit more into it.

    Just for fun, let's make that comment sarcastic:

    "Well, I don't know about y'all, but I am through with powerful and affordable computers that runs everything and costs half the amount of a mobile device with half the comparable specs, a big beautiful 30" monitor, and all of that. I'm through, finished, fini, complevit, terminado. No more for me.

    Seriously, it is amazing how great it is to stare into a small little screen all day."

    Ah, it feels good, it's like food for the soul...
    05-25-14 12:20 PM
  7. early2bed's Avatar
    What an interesting discussion.
    05-25-14 12:25 PM
  8. CallMeNop's Avatar
    Sorry, but I stop reading at the end of the first page, the rest is useless and not interesting.

    Posted via my French Q10
    05-25-14 03:07 PM
  9. freedomx20a's Avatar

    Seriously, it is amazing how much computing power one can hold in ones hand.
    Yah! Back when I was a kid it was hell trying to even get a picture of a naked women! It was a mission like killing bin Laden type.

    Now I show my cuzin whose in grade 5 a pic of a naked lady and he's like "man I was into that in grade 3. Now I'm more into feet fetishes and bbws".

    I'm like jaw dropped!

    It's amazing how much porno these kids have now in their pockets at the touch of a button! What a amazing world!

    ? BlackBerry Q10 ?
    05-25-14 03:12 PM
  10. menshawy's Avatar
    I haven't ever had a game on mobile phone that I played over 2 days in total and gaming is essential for me

    Posted via CB10
    05-25-14 03:22 PM
  11. dejanh's Avatar
    Unless your desktop usage consists only of browsing and emailing a smartphone is never going to substitute for an actual desktop. We can just start with the fundamental, document composition and editing. It is terrible and incredibly slow on a smartphone, any smartphone, even using the best available mobile productivity applications.

    Posted via CB10
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    05-26-14 02:10 PM
  12. bull_thumper's Avatar
    So, he was saying that it's not amazing how much computing mobile devices have now? I think maybe someone needs to reread the statement and then let the original poster claim the sarcasm instead of making assumptions...

    I am probably THE most sarcastic person you will ever meet. The one main point of sarcasm is to prove a point through bringing things into perspective by pretending to play devil's advocate while pointing out bad things as good things or good things as bad things. When you read that statement, what was the goal? How does that statement achieve that goal?

    So as an exercise, let's apply sarcasm to that comment and break it down to see what the main goal, or idea, in it was, and how it achieves it:

    "Well, I don't know about y'all, but I am through with room-filling computers that require continuous air conditioning and magnetic tape storage."

    While this is obviously an exaggeration (hopefully he doesn't actually believe that), it's still portraying publicly accepted negative aspects as negative. Does it achieve what sarcasm sets out to do (prove the opposite point)? No, it's self-supporting...

    "I'm through, finished, fini, complevit, terminado. No more for me."

    Solidifying a point through repetition, nothing sarcastic about this at all (again, doesn't prove the opposite point).

    "Seriously, it is amazing how much computing power one can hold in ones hand."

    Again, does this statement somehow support the idea that mobile phones isn't amazing in the amount of computing power? If you really think a single word will automatically make a comment sarcastic, then seriously, you need to think a little bit more into it.

    Just for fun, let's make that comment sarcastic:

    "Well, I don't know about y'all, but I am through with powerful and affordable computers that runs everything and costs half the amount of a mobile device with half the comparable specs, a big beautiful 30" monitor, and all of that. I'm through, finished, fini, complevit, terminado. No more for me.

    Seriously, it is amazing how great it is to stare into a small little screen all day."

    Ah, it feels good, it's like food for the soul...

    Wow, I'm honored to have my post analyzed!

    Actually, I am serious in that I am grateful for the technology we enjoy today, whether they fit in our pockets or sit on our desks, in particular since I have watched that technology develop since the mini- and mico-computer "eras."

    And, to set the record straight, I use both desktops and laptops everyday, and am a proponent of large screens.

    Heck, I remember using a CompuColor 2001 with a 20"-ish color monitor and get spoiled...
    05-26-14 07:34 PM
  13. bull_thumper's Avatar
    One addendum.

    A while back, I scanned a bunch of materials that we in a box, mostly from the early to middle 80s but certainly some older, and placed it on a little site called The Computer Archive.

    Y'all are invited to browse around. There are some old pocket computers and portables in there as well as what was state-of-the-art at the time.

    My next project is to scan Kilobaud / Kilobaud Microcomputing / Microcomputer as I have received permission to post those.

    Like I said, it's just fun to see how far we've come.

    (Send from my desktop computer and a real keyboard)
    05-26-14 07:38 PM
  14. TallPaul86's Avatar
    The moment I can safely say what this thread title's saying then it will be a happy day for me...

    The only thing stopping me is that BlackBerry 10 doesn't orientate to landscape when connected to a monitor or HDTV either via Miracast or Micro HDMI cable... My BlackBerry Z10 has the elusive HDMI Multimedia Dock and it teases me knowing that certain parts like BlackBerry Hub, Browser and Docs To Go (to name a few) do support landscape orientation yet other aspects like the Home Screen, Settings and BBM app don't do landscape orientation...

    The day BlackBerry allow landscape orientation throughout the OS (whether it be through an HDMI connection or wirelessly through Miracast) will be realising BlackBerry 10's true potential... My fear is that experience will come as a watered down version called BlackBerry Fuse or BlackBerry Blend...

    Posted via CB10
    05-29-14 06:11 PM
  15. grover5's Avatar
    I use a work issued laptop and my Z10. Sometimes I use my PlayBook or webos tablet but most everything I do is on the Z10 and the laptop. My Z10 is definitely used more than the laptop though.

    Posted via CB10
    05-29-14 07:23 PM
  16. Fret Madden's Avatar
    I'm not going to buy another desktop computer if I can avoid it. What for? This BlackBerry does most of what I need the computer for, except for printing documents via wi-fi to a printer (which I'm really surprised we can't do yet). This should be BlackBerry's mission - to render the desktop obsolete. Isn't it obvious that's where these smartphones are headed? C'mon Blackberry - build the Q20 that will allow me to go without having to buy another desktop!
    I use a 750w PSU to power my rig; what kind of battery would we need to power a 4.5ghz quad core with 8gb of RAM and a GPU in the same class as a nVidia GeForce GTX 660? There's nothing any smartphone can do that my desktop can't do several times faster except for being portable.

    All that aside, I'm going on record at this point to say that because of my Z10 I no longer have a need for a laptop.

    Posted via CB10
    05-29-14 08:09 PM
  17. arlene_t's Avatar
    My laptop and desktop won't still get replaced by my Q10 but it can replace my email program so far.

    via Q10
    05-29-14 09:35 PM
  18. tagumcity's Avatar
    I too can make use of my Blackberry for a fair portion of my computing needs by using the HDMI connection with a Bluetooth mouse & keyboard, and I prefer to do so. I'm at the point where an ARM 64 bit (when released) or an i3 will satisfy my Linux command line activities. Choosing a powerful desktop or laptop is certainly appropriate if it satisfies a person's needs.
    06-03-14 09:17 PM
  19. Rootbrian's Avatar
    I use a 750w PSU to power my rig; what kind of battery would we need to power a 4.5ghz quad core with 8gb of RAM and a GPU in the same class as a nVidia GeForce GTX 660? There's nothing any smartphone can do that my desktop can't do several times faster except for being portable.

    All that aside, I'm going on record at this point to say that because of my Z10 I no longer have a need for a laptop.

    Posted via CB10
    This reason alone. It is a beast of a machine. Give it the gift of eternal life by also installing linux mint 17 on a second hard disk for when windows does go down hill, you'll always have something to keep you flying through the clouds and to/from outerspace like I got on mine (which is a bit older, slower (soon faster) and only runs that.

    Posted via CrackBerry 10 (CB10) application using my BlackBerry Q10.
    06-13-14 03:48 PM
  20. TheScionicMan's Avatar
    I bought my last desktop in the 90s. Technically, it was the parts needed to build a Desktop PC. Other than that one, all my PCs have been leftovers. One of the perks of working in IT.

    As far as usage, I tend to gravitate towards the largest screen that is available without too much trouble.
    06-13-14 06:02 PM
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