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  1. VeryBumpy's Avatar
    Has the OP left the building for good?
    10-18-14 07:04 AM
  2. momofteme's Avatar
    Any news on the Classic for AT&T? I will no doubt be getting the classic!

    Loved my Q10 and bold 9900, just wish they had a baby.....hence the Classic....bam!
    You will be able to buy the classic unlocked ready for AT&T, probably on introduction, as far as subsidized from ATT nobody knows yet but it is probably safe to assume they will be carrying it.

    Posted via CB10
    10-18-14 07:39 AM
  3. ChainPunch's Avatar
    I think the reason the classic has the specs that it does is because Blackberry needed to produce the Classic quickly, I believe Chen announced it in Feb of this year, and they also need to be able sale it at a low price to get current BBOS users to switch over to BB10. Remember that for those that are switching to a BB10 device, in most cases they are going to have to switch to higher cost data plans. Since the classic 2 is already in planning, expect better specs on that device and the classic 1 becomes your official lower tier device (think q5/curve) upon the release of the Classic 2 (if it takes place next year).

    Blackberry has to be able to prove to carriers that the Blackberry devices are worth selling and that the company is stable. I like the fact that it seems that Blackberry is making a non-camera option for the Classic and not resting on software management to disable the camera. Believe it are not there is market out there for people that need a smartphone, but can not have a physical camera on the phone.
    10-18-14 08:03 AM
  4. UKAsh's Avatar
    Thanks for the reply!

    I am aware of the differences between 10.3.1 and 10.3; however I was more interested to know if the trackpad would bring something unique to classic like quick menus when pressing the bb button in an app like on bold. These quick menus are very useful and effective.

    Yes there are many differences, the classic comes with 10.3.1 the passport is 10.3

    I don't know if you have been following the 10.3.1 leak news at all, but that software version brings back several more features from BBOS (not all). (See IdSteve, I can be reasonable )

    basically unlimited shortcuts, mappable to either speed dial, or an app, or another function by long pressing a button.

    as in q for silent k for lock I put the calculator on d. but you still have universal search, just by typing...that is one feature improvement, we used to have one or the other.

    Notifications have gotten way more robust on your selections, although I guess there still aren't holster specific settings yet.
    10-18-14 09:35 AM
  5. VeryBumpy's Avatar
    More Q's...

    Can you zoom in and out with the keyboard in Maps and Browser?

    Did you get a manual or pdf file with your Classic? If so, can you share it?
    pppro likes this.
    10-19-14 06:16 AM
  6. rambo47's Avatar
    You will be able to buy the classic unlocked ready for AT&T, probably on introduction, as far as subsidized from ATT nobody knows yet but it is probably safe to assume they will be carrying it.

    Posted via CB10
    The latest rumor is that AT&T will not carry the Classic.

    Passport = AT&T exclusive in the U.S.
    Classic = Verizon exclusive in the U.S.

    Fortunately for AT&T (and all GSM) customers you can buy the full priced and unlocked GSM version from shopblackberry or from some other retailer. The only thing that is in question is whether or not the unlocked version will support AT&T's 4G. I strongly suspect it will, but these days you just can't be sure of anything.
    momofteme likes this.
    10-19-14 09:28 AM
  7. Polopoulos's Avatar
    Hi Ruslan,
    many many thanks for all your answers!
    I wanted to buy the Passport while waiting for the Classic, but the PP is out of stock everywhere (as i'm looking for the AZERTY version) and your infos made me want the Classic even more, so i guess i'll hold on!

    I have one question please, regarding the trackpad, and the cursor behavior in the calendar:
    While in week view, can you hold shift and drag the cursor to create an entry (longer, obviously, than the default "meeting duration" from the calendar settings, for example) ? just like in BB legacy OS.

    It always killed me to see how the calendar entries are slow to input with any touchscreen device (except on the older BB's of course)...

    Many thanks in advance!
    10-19-14 09:49 AM
  8. elgolfman's Avatar
    Nice couple of questions.

    1) YES, you can navigate through the OS only using the trackpad and function keys.
    2) I didn't get what you meant by the square box sub menu, but if you mean context menu, then no. By holding the trackpad pressed on a text, the word gets selected, when on link, you get the regular right-side context menu.
    3) Cut/Paste is similar to all the other BB10 devices, except you can use shift+trackpad to select text.
    4) OS version 10.3.1.632
    5) Even better, you can assign those buttons to whatever you want, either a phone number or any app, you have to hold the key to make the shortcut work. Just typing opens BlackBerry assistant / Universal search.
    No 3 is huge. Its difficult to block text on Q10.

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    10-19-14 11:47 AM
  9. elgolfman's Avatar
    Once you place your cursor, you can hold shift and slide your finger across the screen on trackpadless BB10 devices. You know that, right?
    It's a huge nuisance.

    Posted via CB10
    10-19-14 11:49 AM
  10. elgolfman's Avatar
    Awesome!! This is the biggest failing of BB10 on the Q10 IMHO. Selecting text for copy/paste is tough on the Q's smaller screen. I got used to gestures and didn't think I'd ever need or want the trackpad, but after struggling with copy/paste I'm happy to see the return of the tool belt.
    Totally agree. Mega Dittos.

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    10-19-14 11:49 AM
  11. elgolfman's Avatar
    Mine are likely showing black since I am an extremely heavy user. I sometimes laugh when people post their battery life of 12-16 hours and claim to be heavy users when I kill my Q10's battery in approximately 6 hours (give or take half an hour) due to having the screen on almost constantly. My Android phones would die in 3-4 hours as well; so the Q10 is actually a huge upgrade for me battery life-wise, lol.

    Posted via CB10
    Exactly. Especially on travel days.

    Posted via CB10
    10-19-14 11:51 AM
  12. allwi's Avatar
    Hi Ruslan,

    There's one more question: I heard that the Passport does NOT support headphones with volume control (and mute button) like the Q10 did. What?s with the Classic? I fear they aren't supported here either!?
    10-19-14 02:35 PM
  13. FrankIAm's Avatar
    Hi Ruslan,

    There's one more question: I heard that the Passport does NOT support headphones with volume control (and mute button) like the Q10 did. What?s with the Classic? I fear they aren't supported here either!?
    It does, it's just a software thing. My apple headphones worked perfect on 10.2, but when upgraded to 10.3, the buttons sometimes don't respond.
    Ruslan Botsyurko and allwi like this.
    10-19-14 02:48 PM
  14. nelmzy's Avatar
    Hello Ruslan

    Thank you for all the info you've given us. Have you managed to try out the camera yet?
    10-19-14 03:27 PM
  15. spork141's Avatar
    Hey Ruslan, question. Where did you go? Did the BlackBerry police get you?

    Posted via CB10
    10-19-14 03:43 PM
  16. allwi's Avatar
    It does, it's just a software thing. My apple headphones worked perfect on 10.2, but when upgraded to 10.3, the buttons sometimes don't respond.
    Thanks and ... arrrgh: I hope software thingcan be replaced with software bug, meaning it will be fixed in the next versions of the OS and not added (removed?) by purpose.
    10-19-14 05:03 PM
  17. world traveler and former ceo's Avatar
    Great thread thanks R!!!

    Very insightful on tupcoming BlackBerry Classic... looking forward to the launch!!!

    Posted via CB10
    10-19-14 06:33 PM
  18. Ruslan Botsyurko's Avatar
    Hi guys, I'm back, had a rough weekend, so I couldn't reply to your questions and PMs

    Posted via CB10 @ Passport
    10-20-14 08:29 AM
  19. idssteve's Avatar
    WELCOME back!! And THANKS, in advance.
    10-20-14 08:31 AM
  20. Ruslan Botsyurko's Avatar
    thanks Rulsan.

    that small row of tool belt makes me think. i have fat fingers and as you said, there will be times that the screen will be touched when using the trackpad.

    I have few favors to ask if you dont mind.

    - can you show us what the word suggestions look like when composing a message? for me, the implementation of word suggestions in BB10 is one of its asset. as a Z10 user, i really love that i can use them without moving my hands away from the keyboard itself and it does not distract my momentum when typing.
    - while testing the previous item, can you compose a long message? doesnt matter if its full of nonsense (multiple line of letter A will do) as i only want to see how the screen looks like when its more than 3rows.
    - you've mentioned before that you can select multiple entries in the hub (specifically emails) by holding shift and scrolling on the track pad. i thought that this suggests that you are selecting consecutive emails. is there a way to select emails that are far from each other (sorry i cant think of the right words ) ie, select 1st, 3rd, 6th entry in the hub.
    - to select multiple files in file manager using a full touch device, you tap and hold an item and select 'select more' from the over flow. in classic, is there other ways to do this? im thinking that the shift + track pad might work with this and it may be for consecutive files, so maybe selecting separate files will be a good test for this. i tend to leave things as is until i have free time thats why i end up having many files that i dont need so i always do this

    ahm... this is all i can think of as of now. im sorry for these things might take some time to accomplish and i dont want to take too much of your time. there are too many of us asking questions. but i hope that this may help others in any way it may

    thanks again. and i'll be back for more questions if something comes to my mind, especially that i'm really curious what it would feel like to use the Classic+tool belt compared to full touch Z10 and im sorry for that in advance
    1) Currently there's no word prediction on Classic, you just type the words manually, but I wouldn't be afraid about that, I bet they add the regular 3 rows of predicted words to the bottom of the display just like on Q10. If you love the word swiping from the Z10 just like me, I'd recommend getting the Passport,where it is possible on the hardware keyboard.

    2)
    Got my paws on the BlackBerry Classic (HQ photos, Q&A)-img_20141020_134344.png

    3+4) In the Hub it's quite complicated to do this using shift+trackpad especially when you want to select less then 2 messages at once, otherwise you can shift-select, then release shift, move elsewhere using scrollbar and again hold shift to select a few other messages. But I think it might be enhanced in future uptades since in File Manager you can select single files by holding shift and pressing the trackpad, in hub this leads to opening the items, but I think the behavior will be the same in the coming OS versions.
    Got my paws on the BlackBerry Classic (HQ photos, Q&A)-img_20141020_134452.png
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    10-20-14 09:00 AM
  21. Ruslan Botsyurko's Avatar
    Question: Can you take a picture OR a video then simply hit the Blackberry key and select "RENAME" like you previously could on the Blackberry 9900.

    Question: Does the device have the ability to subscribe to podcasts like was originally possible on the 9900?

    QUESTION: Does the device come with the "native" password keeper?
    1) Not right away. You can take a picture, then open it via the thumbnail in the left bottom corner, press the BlackBerry button to open menu and then choose Properties to rename the picture.

    2) This is a software-related question. You can't subscribe to podcasts natively like on the Bold, where you've had a Podcast app, but you can of course once you install any of the many podcast apps from BlackBerry World or even Amazon/Snap.

    3) Again - software question, it's not Classic-specific, all the features depend on OS build. No, you won't find the native Password Keeper in Classic, but you can download the native one from BlackBerry when you find it in the BB World, just like on current devices.
    10-20-14 09:10 AM
  22. Ruslan Botsyurko's Avatar
    Can you show us the browser using the trackpad as the cursor?
    The cursor can not be captured on a screenshot, but here's a photo.
    Got my paws on the BlackBerry Classic (HQ photos, Q&A)-dsc_5551_sm.jpg
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    10-20-14 09:14 AM
  23. Ruslan Botsyurko's Avatar
    Wow, thanks Ruslan.

    I have a simple question (;

    Can you use the track pad to scroll through Twitter feeds? Does it work in Android apps, say, Instagram? Thanks(:
    Yes and Yes, tested with both Twitter and Instagram
    10-20-14 09:27 AM
  24. Ruslan Botsyurko's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure that the question is asked already (but I didn?t see the question nor the answer). When you enter text (in a mail, in a note, in an entry field) can you use the trackpad to navigate the cursor position?
    I understood that with alt (or shift??) + trackpad, you can mark the text.


    And regarding the bottom icons (left/right): they are hardcoded to the Hub and the camera and not configurable, right?
    1) You can move the cursor with trackpad and select text using Shift+trackpad

    2) Correct, it's not configurable, at least not yet, who knows, BB might add the option later.
    Barbareren and allwi like this.
    10-20-14 09:31 AM
  25. Ruslan Botsyurko's Avatar
    As a side note, in your personal opinion, do you really think the Classic is a justifiable upgrade for Q10 users? I used to think so, but with the rumoured specs, it hardly seems worth it, unfortunately. I really don't understand what BlackBerry were thinking here (assuming the rumoured specs are true). Why on earth aren't they coming up with decent upgrade choices for existing Q10 and Z10 users..?
    Hard to tell as I've only been using the Q10 for 2 weeks to write a review while owning a Z10 as my weapon of choice. But if I had a Q10, I would probably upgrade to Classic. I was also disappointed when the specs leaked out, but I never had hardware related lags on Q10 or Z10 (only software ones on a few leaks), so I think the hardware is still sufficient. The only difference I can see on Passport is quicker Android apps loading and installing, otherwise everything is as quick on both my Z10 and the Classic. The trackpad and the tools belt is a very useful add-on + the display got bigger and a lot sharper, so according to the price speculations I would probably upgrade. Well also I get bored after some time with the same phone, so I have this need to treat myself to a new toy
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    10-20-14 09:42 AM
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