- I was extremely happy that BlackBerry added the tool belt to the Classic, but the end button is completely useless. It's annoying when I'm trying to hang up when I'm outside of the phone application because hitting the end button just brings you back to the phone call, and then, after you press it a couple more times, it ends the calls. It's also annoying that you can't end a call when you're phone screen is locked. I really wish BlackBerry would make it so pressing the end button would be the equivalent of shutting the face of a flip phone. That is all.
TJ Strozier of Astronomic Music Group06-10-15 02:20 AMLike 7 - Bla1zeCB OGArguable on the reasoning for it as mentioned in several other threads. - http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...pushes-984810/
It's a religious debate of epic proportions...on one hand you had people accidentally hanging up phone calls a lot on BBOS (wooooops!) because of the single key press when they were attempting to multi-task, and on the other hand you have a second key press, but some assurance you're not going to accidentally kill the call...
Posted via CB1006-10-15 02:25 AMLike 0 - I was extremely happy that BlackBerry added the tool belt to the Classic, but the end button is completely useless. It's annoying when I'm trying to hang up when I'm outside of the phone application because hitting the end button just brings you back to the phone call, and then, after you press it a couple more times, it ends the calls. It's also annoying that you can't end a call when you're phone screen is locked. I really wish BlackBerry would make it so pressing the end button would be the equivalent of shutting the face of a flip phone. That is all.
TJ Strozier of Astronomic Music Group
Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1006-10-15 06:48 AMLike 4 - I was extremely happy that BlackBerry added the tool belt to the Classic, but the end button is completely useless. It's annoying when I'm trying to hang up when I'm outside of the phone application because hitting the end button just brings you back to the phone call, and then, after you press it a couple more times, it ends the calls. It's also annoying that you can't end a call when you're phone screen is locked. I really wish BlackBerry would make it so pressing the end button would be the equivalent of shutting the face of a flip phone. That is all.
TJ Strozier of Astronomic Music Group06-10-15 08:28 AMLike 0 - I do think hard buttons should overwrite the many "touch" based failsafe things that are built in to bb10.
The most annoying thing for me is pressing hangup (bluetooth) or other end hangs up and the darn thing has to goto the phone app and end.. I am like who cares! Just stay in the app I am in
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TJ Strozier of Astronomic Music Group06-10-15 09:03 AMLike 2 - Arguable on the reasoning for it as mentioned in several other threads. - http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...pushes-984810/
But yeah, if I used my Classic all the time that would be annoying.
TJ Strozier of Astronomic Music Group06-10-15 09:48 AMLike 0 -
The End-key is why I always wanted the Classic. So far I've just been unimpressed with its implementation. That and the whole toolbelt's implementation really. It's not quite right. And the non-island keys that resemble a screen are pretty much the worst physical buttons ever designed.
An improved touch keyboard and a physical end key would be the ideal combination for me. Cursor placement that doesn't get in the way of a gesture-based BB10 and a good end call key for gtd efficiency.
Posted via CB1006-10-15 11:43 AMLike 0 -
Just because you haven't figured out how to make effective use of it isn't the toolbelt's fault.
Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10ErnstMach and Denny_Crane like this.06-10-15 12:03 PMLike 2 -
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Posted via BlackBerry ClassicTJ Strozier likes this.06-10-15 12:15 PMLike 1 - I haven't used the new Classic but I know I used to spam the End Call button to try to end a call.
Posted via CB1006-10-15 12:19 PMLike 0 - or those users who would rather not have to touch or look at their screens to perform simple actions.06-10-15 12:28 PMLike 7
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TJ Strozier of Astronomic Music Group06-10-15 01:36 PMLike 0 -
.... but then again I must be wrong as " It's just there to lure in the Bold users who can't quite let go" ... Thanks for letting me know.
Posted via CB10ErnstMach likes this.06-10-15 01:44 PMLike 1 - This should be a toggled setting in the phone app. Problem solved for everyone.
The End-key is why I always wanted the Classic. So far I've just been unimpressed with its implementation. That and the whole toolbelt's implementation really. It's not quite right. And the non-island keys that resemble a screen are pretty much the worst physical buttons ever designed.
An improved touch keyboard and a physical end key would be the ideal combination for me. Cursor placement that doesn't get in the way of a gesture-based BB10 and a good end call key for gtd efficiency.
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TJ Strozier of Astronomic Music Group06-10-15 01:59 PMLike 0 -
Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1006-10-15 02:27 PMLike 5 - 06-10-15 02:47 PMLike 2
- Ok, I'll buy that you have to press the End Call button TWICE to end a call... to prevent accidentally ending calls while multitasking. That's the ONLY compelling reason I've ever seen for having to press the button twice. Now that there is a dedicated power button on BB10 devices, the End Call button shouldn't replicate the BBOS functionality, so a long press on the call end button could end a call no matter whether the device is locked irrelevant to what is displayed on the screen... accidental long presses are very rare.
...and by long, I mean held down for one second, not three or four.
User interface components (which includes physical buttons) that do only one thing, and are always available to do that one thing, are useful in some contexts, as anyone who has tried to hang up a call on a full-slab device having to navigate back to the phone app to hit the call end button can attest. Having to stop and and look at and manipulate the screen just to hang up a call on what is by definition a "phone"? It leads me to ask "how do you people live like this?" but unfortunately I'm forced to live like this because I don't want a tiny low-res screen on my daily driver.
It's not that it's actually that hard to hang up a call on a full slab device... it's just the act of doing so reminds me how great it is to actually have it, which makes its absence sting that much more.Last edited by RyanGermann; 06-10-15 at 03:01 PM.
zyxxiforr likes this.06-10-15 02:50 PMLike 1 - The BB10 toolbelt would have a lot more fans if it had island keys and a larger trackpad. BlackBerry just halfassed the Classic is all (and I'm saying this with a Classic arriving on my doorstep tomorrow).
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