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  1. kikipintre's Avatar
    Hello
    I'm searching alternative OS to use. Don't want ios and android, just looking OS which is like BB10 oriented on business and multitasking. Do you know any?
    I doubt there will be exactly the same but..

    Thanks

    Posted via CB10
    12-16-17 11:24 AM
  2. tollfeeder's Avatar
    Try Sailfish OS (if you can) https://sailfishos.org/

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    12-16-17 11:45 AM
  3. Ment's Avatar
    SF is not really business oriented so the answer is no alternative.
    12-16-17 04:32 PM
  4. thurask's Avatar
    Since you said business, Android or iOS. The rest are either hobbyist things like Sailfish or similarly terminal platforms like Windows Phone.
    12-16-17 04:36 PM
  5. kikipintre's Avatar
    in androids BlackBerry android is the best I have priv, but to be honest I'm done with BlackBerry, I think they don't care about customers. think will try IOS
    12-17-17 12:24 AM
  6. conite's Avatar
    in androids BlackBerry android is the best I have priv, but to be honest I'm done with BlackBerry, I think they don't care about customers. think will try IOS
    Well, BlackBerry is done with you too. They closed their device business over a year ago.
    MB64 likes this.
    12-17-17 01:00 AM
  7. kikipintre's Avatar
    Well, BlackBerry is done with you too. They closed their device business over a year ago.
    Yes I know... just too sad nice devices, nice OS, I think it wasn't right decision in long time, but this was not my business. We all were customers who love BlackBerry.
    Mecca EL likes this.
    12-17-17 01:26 AM
  8. kev6n's Avatar
    Just jump to android.

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk
    12-17-17 01:48 AM
  9. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Yes I know... just too sad nice devices, nice OS, I think it wasn't right decision in long time, but this was not my business. We all were customers who love BlackBerry.
    Thank goodness. Is shareholders were tired of losing billions of dollars. Maybe you could license BB10 from BlackBerry so we can get some money back??
    Carjackd likes this.
    12-17-17 06:17 AM
  10. Ray III's Avatar
    What are you trying to accomplish? Apple and Google have a monopoly on the app market and no other OS is going to offer more apps. BlackBerry 10 phones still work and will work for the foreseeable future, assuming Web standards don't change drastically.
    rayporsche and Qorax like this.
    12-17-17 12:41 PM
  11. phone-company's Avatar
    I thougt about using Blackberry Motion but after all i think i will buy an iPhone 7. First i use my classic for a while but then...

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    12-19-17 03:30 PM
  12. glwerry's Avatar
    What are you trying to accomplish? Apple and Google have a monopoly on the app market and no other OS is going to offer more apps. BlackBerry 10 phones still work and will work for the foreseeable future, assuming Web standards don't change drastically.
    That depends completely on what you want / need to do.

    I moved from a Classic to a PRIV because a critical app would not work on my Classic / BB10.

    So, for me, in that sense, BB10 does NOT work.
    12-19-17 03:35 PM
  13. The_Passporter's Avatar
    It would be nice if someone licensed BB10 and updated the Android Runtime. No one would need the Blackberry World and the OS could live on. Perhaps even open their own Store for BB10 developers.
    12-19-17 04:13 PM
  14. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    It would be nice if someone licensed BB10 and updated the Android Runtime. No one would need the Blackberry World and the OS could live on. Perhaps even open their own Store for BB10 developers.
    ONE reason among many that nobody will license BB10 is that ART will always be stuck at 4.3 and it was never intended as the app solution it became.
    12-19-17 04:19 PM
  15. glwerry's Avatar
    It would be nice if someone licensed BB10 and updated the Android Runtime. No one would need the Blackberry World and the OS could live on. Perhaps even open their own Store for BB10 developers.
    My understanding is that there are almost no BB10 developers left. The "major" apps like Facebook (WhatsApp), Canadian banks, etc., are LEAVING the platform - adding a new store isn't going to bring them back.

    If you COULD update the Android runtime, wouldn't that just open BB10 up to all of the Android privacy issues that people are always screaming about?
    David Hollister likes this.
    12-19-17 04:22 PM
  16. arfeo's Avatar
    They may not update. De jure and de facto.

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    12-19-17 04:35 PM
  17. The_Passporter's Avatar
    My understanding is that there are almost no BB10 developers left. The "major" apps like Facebook (WhatsApp), Canadian banks, etc., are LEAVING the platform - adding a new store isn't going to bring them back.

    If you COULD update the Android runtime, wouldn't that just open BB10 up to all of the Android privacy issues that people are always screaming about?
    True there are only hobbiest developers left but the developers could still place the existing apps in a new store perhaps and take a chance on making a buck or two. Lol.

    As far as android privacy issues, well I don't see any difference in the alternative really.
    12-19-17 05:27 PM
  18. thurask's Avatar
    True there are only hobbiest developers left but the developers could still place the existing apps in a new store perhaps and take a chance on making a buck or two. Lol.

    As far as android privacy issues, well I don't see any difference in the alternative really.
    Or, instead of creating a new store, get the remaining developers to solicit donations; since every other day there's a "let's all donate $30,000 to keep BB10 alive" thread you'd think that generous spirit would extend to sending a little cash the way of third party developers.
    StephanieMaks and KermEd like this.
    12-19-17 07:22 PM
  19. Carjackd's Avatar
    Yes I know... just too sad nice devices, nice OS, I think it wasn't right decision in long time, but this was not my business. We all were customers who love BlackBerry.
    The fact you are getting two more years on bb10 isn't bad. If I was losing money like BlackBerry is on bb10 I would have been out a long time ago.
    neoberry99 likes this.
    12-19-17 07:32 PM
  20. Carjackd's Avatar
    Thank goodness. Is shareholders were tired of losing billions of dollars. Maybe you could license BB10 from BlackBerry so we can get some money back??
    I'm second in line
    12-19-17 07:33 PM
  21. scubafan's Avatar
    I'm going to keep using BlackBerry 10 devices for as long as I possibly can!

    What I want to know is whether ANY options exist to ACTUALLY secure an android device in the fashion that BB10 is done. I mean that I have the same level of control my Q10 has?

    While many apps will refuse to open if I deny every area it wants, the fact is that I can keep everything I want away from the app. I especially think that BlackBerry either TOTALLY dropped the ball as far as protecting the privacy of us users! Since every single aspect of the android OS is designed to let google see everything you do, everywhere you go & most invasive is the way they want to know all of the people you call or text. Just because 90%+ of the public ignores it, the fact is that none of the people that I have in contacts, calendar or texts have given me permission to sell THEIR privacy just because a flashlight app wants it!

    I'm willing to admit that the new version of Windows or android have some useful features, and it's true that Win10 itself is more secure from outside threats. The way that BlackBerry hardened the OS from the less common hacking yet failed to give users the ability to stop ANY of the snooping by google in even ONE area such as texts and email.

    As I told them before, if BlackBerry even gave us a method to sync with our own PC's it would be a major improvement! But I was initially shocked to discover that BlackBerry now expects users to embrace the total spectrum of the google universe so google can read every text, email etc to further their business model of data mining the world!

    Just my $.02, YMMV ! ;-) sent via my Q10
    Last edited by scubafan; 01-03-18 at 10:56 PM.
    01-03-18 10:28 PM
  22. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I'm going to keep using BlackBerry 10 devices for as long as I possibly can!

    What I want to know is whether ANY options exist to ACTUALLY secure an android device in the fashion that BB10 is done. I mean that I have the same level of control my Q10 has?

    While many apps will refuse to open if I deny every area it wants, the fact is that I can

    Just my $.02, YMMV ! ;-) sent via my Q10
    Security against viruses and exploits are probably better under BBAndroid than BB10 since BBAndroid is being actively supported for the licensees through agreement with BlackBerry. Unfortunately, BB10 has become more of security through obscurity. The latest processor exploit demonstrates that Apple, Google and Microsoft are still actively supporting their OS. Since BlackBerry left hardware business, how likely will BlackBerry spend any money on either BBOS or BB10? Some money will be spent on BBAndroid only because licensees are footing the bill.

    None of this has anything to do with your viewpoints on data mining and Google. I'm observing separate but parallel issue.
    01-03-18 10:59 PM
  23. Leyra B10's Avatar
    Its frustrating to use an android to get anything done, bb10 is fast and smooth for putting projects together without even having to get extra apps. The saddest part is I wont get to see one with modern hardware ie better processor, more and faster ram.

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    rayporsche likes this.
    01-04-18 03:40 AM
  24. bbrotestant's Avatar
    Blackberry on android. Or simply android with blackberry apps.
    Purely business/productivity) platform is a dead (anachronistic) concept (which has been the core of bbbusiness).
    If Blackberry focuses their efforts on productivity/(ai)-assist and/or coaching, they may stand a chance on android or even ios. Just not sure where the money and strategy will come from.
    01-06-18 01:27 PM
  25. zodmode247's Avatar
    I think blackberry should go back to the concept of having everything you need for a smartphone under the OS. Back in the BBOS and BB days, you could get by with using the OS apps and maybe a handful of third-party apps. Looking at my IOS and android devices, I got to have 2 or 3 apps just to get 1 thing done right.


    For those of you who want to have some control of your android devices, I would look at copperhead OS. Been testing it out for a few months and I haven't had any issues with it. Monthly security updates has been right on time, and there's no google services or anything google on the phone. The only thing is that you HAVE to use a nexus or pixel device

    https://copperhead.co/android/

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    01-06-18 03:09 PM
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