[lionheartck]

I entered into the contest for the Onyx. It says I may win an Onyx with a Dead Pin. What does that mean? Is it a once functional, but now a paperweight? Can it be revived through some work around?

[Crucial_Xtreme]

When a PIN is dead or disabled, it means it doesn't work obviously. BlackBerry Messenger and some other things will not work. But that's basically it.

[schmeat]

Correct me if I'm wrong but push email wont work either if the pin is dead.

Rim disables the pin because the phone is reported stolen, usually.

[salomondrin]

Correct me if I'm wrong but push email wont work either if the pin is dead.

Rim disables the pin because the phone is reported stolen, usually.

Not saying you are wrong, but I have an ONYX with a "dead pin" and everything, absolutely everything, works perfectly except for the BBM...

[patrickberry]

not having BBM is a lost, but a free BB is worth it since Push is working, i suppose

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[Bajanbastard]

I meet a dude with a Bold that had a disabled PIN and the device wouldn't get data just edge no EDGE. So no emails BBM nothing would work except voice.

[andrewcjduong]

when a pin is dead, almost everything wont work besides like... web browsing. its pretty pointless.

[mark-d]

The PIN is what RIM uses to recognise the device. This is needed to activate BIS or BES. Without either of these the phone will manage voice calls and sms messages as these are carried over the mobile network direct but anything that needs to pass through RIM such as push email, BBM, internet traffic will NOT function if you're device has a dead pin.

What the competition is offering you (I think) is a fully functioning Onyx techinically but due to the dead pin it's severely crippled and will in fact to do nothing that most people would consider crucial when getting a Blackberry. It will look very nice, have the latest OS on, and all the options to do what you want will be there but sadly none will work.

Best of waiting to get a fully working Onyx if you actually want Blackberry service with your Blackberry.

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[cellinator]

Yeah. I'll wait for a "good pin" Onyx! Lol... Alhough if I had a dead pin model to play with, it wouldn't be so bad guess (provided I didn't pay for it!)

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[matthew.douglas]

So are we thinking that a dead-PIN Onyx is useful as anything other than a phone?

[pkcable]

The wifi on it should do data, and hey it's free.

[djnick]

how does a pin go dead?

[branmarc]

Pin "goes dead" usually because of being reported stolen, or if it is a testing device, that is reported to be in the wrong hands (Maybe the tester sold it and someone found out...) if you understand :P

[salomondrin]

So are we thinking that a dead-PIN Onyx is useful as anything other than a phone?

The dead pin onyx I have has:

1) calling works
2) Browsing works
3) 3G connection
4) emaling works perfectly
5) Texting works perfectly
6) MMS works perfectly

What doesn't work is:

1) BBM

That's it...

[jamiegroh]

That the pin is dead

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[Brollic]

I wont mind getting the dead or good pin i have my 8900 as a back up and when it officially comes out ill get one that works 100%. But having one now is still bad *** at least i think.

[Clavs1]

Dead pin or not, it's a free onyx! lol I gotta say, I don't like the no BBM part but w/e. I'll manage If I win that is...hehehe getting my hopes up.

[jthoang]

No data on your phone

[qwerty_dh]

Wow! I want the Onyx in the giveaway, but a dead PIN is a baaaad thing

[salomondrin]

Wow! I want the Onyx in the giveaway, but a dead PIN is a baaaad thing

Yep, but right after this one I'm giving away the one with the working pin!

[TenOfZero]

The dead pin onyx I have has:

1) calling works
2) Browsing works
3) 3G connection
4) emaling works perfectly
5) Texting works perfectly
6) MMS works perfectly

What doesn't work is:

1) BBM

That's it...

Thanks for Clarifying :-)

[corronchos]

Onyx will probably retail for $500 off contract? Yep, I'd take a free dead-PIN Onyx!!

[natedeezy]

Wow is bbm really that big of a deal to complain about a free phone with a dead pin. Its free people.

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[huckduck]

The dead pin onyx I have has:

1) calling works
2) Browsing works
3) 3G connection
4) emaling works perfectly
5) Texting works perfectly
6) MMS works perfectly

What doesn't work is:

1) BBM

That's it...

He's the one giving it away

BTW salomondrin

if BBM doesn't work, does that mean PIN messages dont' work either?

[salomondrin]

He's the one giving it away

BTW salomondrin

if BBM doesn't work, does that mean PIN messages dont' work either?

Yep... no PIN messaging...