1. Monty2004's Avatar
    whats this mean? i just came across this?...

    the difference in processing speeds between tour 9630 and bold 9650 are as follows:

    Tour 9630:
    528mhz Arm11 main processor for os and apps
    274mhz Arm 9 co-processor for modem

    Bold 9650:
    600mhz Arm11 main processor for os and apps
    400mhz Arm9 co-processor for modem
    That seems to contradict what was reported at WES in the link on processor speeds and posted in this forum earlier this morning.
    04-27-10 12:33 PM
  2. Mistik's Avatar
    quote:
    The 9650 with extra mem ,trackpad and wifi that that had release date for December but held back so rim could slap Bold stickers on.
    Very disappointing to those wanting upgrade from 9630.

    Well the doubled the flash memory. I think thats a huge upgrade
    04-27-10 12:33 PM
  3. anon(3038160)'s Avatar
    Great find! Do you have a link?

    whats this mean? i just came across this?...

    the difference in processing speeds between tour 9630 and bold 9650 are as follows:

    Tour 9630:
    528mhz Arm11 main processor for os and apps
    274mhz Arm 9 co-processor for modem

    Bold 9650:
    600mhz Arm11 main processor for os and apps
    400mhz Arm9 co-processor for modem
    04-27-10 12:33 PM
  4. mjbesen310's Avatar
    Which 9650 user experience? the ones that showed up earlier? those were for the biggest part with the 9650 with 256mb and not with the 512 version as far as I am aware. hardly any of the 512mb device info leaked upfront. Theghost88 at twitter mentioned its a beast. You can't compare. We have to wait for people actually reporting back on the 512mb version before you can make such statements. They doubled the flash memory! what more do people expect? It has the most flash memory of any BB released until now!
    thats correct. every 9650 out that we have seen only has 256mb of memory.... we havnt seen any reports of hands on reviews with double the flash memory
    04-27-10 12:34 PM
  5. mjbesen310's Avatar
    Great find! Do you have a link?
    no link.. its someone who quoted it in the comments section talking about 0S 6.0 I read his comments, and just copy and pasted it here to see if what the deal is with this one?
    04-27-10 12:36 PM
  6. anon(3038160)'s Avatar
    Thanks, found it. I'm not sure where he got this, but the comment was by edlivian, approximately 165 comments into the 6.0 discussion on the front page.

    http://crackberry.com/blackberry-6-s...es-2010?page=4
    04-27-10 12:42 PM
  7. 12MaNy's Avatar
    If the 9650 has the 528mhz Qualcomm chipset...then it will clock roughly the same speeds as the 9630 (until OS 6 is released). If both devices have the same chipset, then the only thing that would make any difference in speed would be the onboard memory, OS version and maybe open GL, but here's the thing...

    The average 9630 owner probably has roughly 100mb free if you account for OS, Apps...etc. The average 9650 user will probably have between 300-350mb free if you account for OS, Apps...etc. 100mb is enough memory for a 528mhz Qualcomm processor to run optimally, so if there is a difference in speed...it wont be by much (until OS 6 is released).
    04-27-10 12:50 PM
  8. Slingbox's Avatar
    whats this mean? i just came across this?...

    the difference in processing speeds between tour 9630 and bold 9650 are as follows:

    Tour 9630:
    528mhz Arm11 main processor for os and apps
    274mhz Arm 9 co-processor for modem

    Bold 9650:
    600mhz Arm11 main processor for os and apps
    400mhz Arm9 co-processor for modem
    Now that's freaking great news!
    04-27-10 12:52 PM
  9. mjbesen310's Avatar
    Now that's freaking great news!
    yes it would be, but I dont know how true that is though. the source came from a member here who was commenting on the OS 6.0 where he got the information at, I have no idea, but I can only hope its true
    04-27-10 12:54 PM
  10. Mistik's Avatar
    If the 9650 has the 528mhz Qualcomm chipset...then it will clock roughly the same speeds as the 9630 (until OS 6 is released). If both devices have the same chipset, then the only thing that would make any difference in speed would be the onboard memory, OS version and maybe open GL, but here's the thing...

    The average 9630 owner probably has roughly 100mb free if you account for OS, Apps...etc. The average 9650 user will probably have between 300-350mb free if you account for OS, Apps...etc. 100mb is enough memory for a 528mhz Qualcomm processor to run optimally, so if there is a difference in speed...it wont be by much (until OS 6 is released).
    perhaps true, but the OS plays a huge role in the speed. How does it handle and manage the memory? The 9700 is OS6 ready due to the way it handles memory. Its different from the way a 9630 manages memory. So until we see some hands on reports from people that put the current 9650 to the test it all remains speculation. And I seriously doubt if the average user would notice any difference in the first place.
    04-27-10 12:58 PM
  11. 12MaNy's Avatar
    When in doubt...ask Kevin
    04-27-10 01:02 PM
  12. 12MaNy's Avatar
    perhaps true, but the OS plays a huge role in the speed. How does it handle and manage the memory? The 9700 is OS6 ready due to the way it handles memory. Its different from the way a 9630 manages memory. So until we see some hands on reports from people that put the current 9650 to the test it all remains speculation. And I seriously doubt if the average user would notice any difference in the first place.

    I literally just said a 9650 and a 9630 would run pretty much the same until OS 6 is released.
    04-27-10 01:03 PM
  13. Slingbox's Avatar
    yes it would be, but I dont know how true that is though. the source came from a member here who was commenting on the OS 6.0 where he got the information at, I have no idea, but I can only hope its true
    Fingers crossed that it is.

    The extra speed with added mem would be a true upgrade in performance I would defiantly hop on.
    04-27-10 01:19 PM
  14. Mistik's Avatar
    I literally just said a 9650 and a 9630 would run pretty much the same until OS 6 is released.
    That's not necessarily the case. perhaps they have optimized the 5.0 os vrsion running on it in such a way that makes better use of the available memory. Still don't think the average user will notice this, if thats what you mean
    Last edited by Mistik1973; 04-27-10 at 01:25 PM.
    04-27-10 01:22 PM
  15. 12MaNy's Avatar
    That's not necessarily the case. perhaps they have optimized the 5.0 os vrsion running on it in such a way that makes better use of the available memory. Still don't think the average user will notice this, if thats what you mean
    I'm running a full Java .601 (9650 OS) hybrid right now...and there's no difference in internal memory managment.
    04-27-10 01:31 PM
  16. 12MaNy's Avatar
    04-27-10 01:35 PM
  17. Mistik's Avatar
    I believe you I just think its hard to say anything until we get some proper usage reports on the 9650.

    how is your battery life btw on that hybrid? And is there no browser click issue? My tour's battery life is getting worse and worse everyday on .484
    04-27-10 02:05 PM
  18. 12MaNy's Avatar
    I believe you I just think its hard to say anything until we get some proper usage reports on the 9650.

    how is your battery life btw on that hybrid? And is there no browser click issue? My tour's battery life is getting worse and worse everyday on .484
    It's ok....but I haven't seen any version of 5.0 with what I would consider decent battery life. Sometimes I miss my Curve.
    04-27-10 02:08 PM
  19. Mistik's Avatar
    my curve would go 2 days without charging.. gonna try that Dripther 8.5 hybrid
    04-27-10 03:49 PM
  20. 12MaNy's Avatar
    You can try one of mine if you'd like.

    Posted from my BlackBerry using BerryBlab
    04-27-10 05:05 PM
  21. reaborg's Avatar
    hmm. phonescoop seems to state that the processor on the 9650 is 624MHz. Yet they don't have the processor mentioned for 9700, 9630 or 9550. Wonder what they know...or perhaps just mistaken...
    04-27-10 07:42 PM
  22. xeju's Avatar
    Did I see that someone has access to a 9650 and its escreens?

    If so, go to OS Engineering Screens / Battery / Core Frequency Screen.

    This shows the time spent in different CPU speeds. (At least it does on the 9700.) In the top section, look for the highest speed. This should be the processor speed. (624MHz on the 9700)

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    04-27-10 08:42 PM
  23. mjbesen310's Avatar
    hmm. phonescoop seems to state that the processor on the 9650 is 624MHz. Yet they don't have the processor mentioned for 9700, 9630 or 9550. Wonder what they know...or perhaps just mistaken...
    exactly... I just saw that too this morning....

    here is the link..

    Research In Motion BlackBerry Bold 9650 Specs, Features (Phone Scoop)
    04-28-10 07:36 AM
  24. berrybore's Avatar
    hmm. phonescoop seems to state that the processor on the 9650 is 624MHz. Yet they don't have the processor mentioned for 9700, 9630 or 9550. Wonder what they know...or perhaps just mistaken...
    they also have the internal memory listed at 317 mb.. but we all know it's 512 mb.. so yeah phonescoop is about as reliable as a flat tire
    04-28-10 08:41 AM
  25. mjbesen310's Avatar
    they also have the internal memory listed at 317 mb.. but we all know it's 512 mb.. so yeah phonescoop is about as reliable as a flat tire
    they clearly said next to that though, thats whats left over after the OS is installed, which is true. 317 is roughly what we have to play with for apps. much better then roughly 100 left over on the Tour after the OS is installed
    04-28-10 08:44 AM
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