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- its sad. but i am still going to snag this 9900. not because "its the thinnest bb to date"but because when paired with my playbook i am sure i will have one of the finest mobile experiences out there. i hate that we now use the words sexy when it comes to a phone. and as far as the camera, if its the same as the one on the pb, have no fears, it takes GREAT photos (just not at night)08-06-11 08:44 AMLike 0
- I use my phone camera for quick captures...like my honey sending pics of what ice cream he's getting for me. Or a quick shot of friends at a club. I don't ever expect it to replace a camera. Really, the little Nikon I carry in my purse is so tiny it doesn't take any room at all.
That said, it is disappointing that they removed the auto focus from everything except the Torch 2. My Atrix killed the camera on my BB. Obliterated it.08-06-11 08:45 AMLike 0 - So... to summarize then basically wait until the camera comes out, try it and see if it fits your needs. If it doesn't, find something else. That something else may be another Blackberry model or, unfortunately I guess from a BB fan perspective, another maker entirely.
If nothing else, this thread will remind me to try the camera out. I am one of those that uses an SLR for taking pictures. I also use the camera on my phone for taking quick pics to send by email which is really handy. I don't expect the pictures to be great as I'm not going to print them, but I'd still like them to be as sharp as possible. To date, the camera on my 9780 is a little disappointing as they are often out of focus even though I get the 'green box'. But because I don't use it that often, it doesn't bother me that much.
One would assume that due to the feature of scanning the bar code box thingees (what are they called again?) that the 'Greztky' (see blog post about naming conventions) should be able to take somewhat okay macro shots if you are adding people to BBM or adding an app, or whatever. It would seem really weird if it couldn't do that.
And as per the article linked to on the first page, these types of lenses/cameras are still good for many things like landscapes:
Here's an informative article that UGC posted: EDoF versus Auto-focus: Understanding the compromises involved
I can understand peoples frustrations though as, if you are a BB fan, you want to a BB that meets all your needs and be able to show it off or whatever... and this type of news makes it 'seem' like it is a less perfect phone than before you read the thread but you wont know for sure until you try it.Masahiro and asdfjkandreax like this.08-06-11 09:02 AMLike 2 - I can understand peoples frustrations though as, if you are a BB fan, you want to a BB that meets all your needs and be able to show it off or whatever... and this type of news makes it 'seem' like it is a less perfect phone than before you read the thread but you wont know for sure until you try it.asdfjkandreax likes this.08-06-11 09:16 AMLike 1
- This is the kind of pics my 9700 takes, but I don't just keep it on Auto, I make use of the scene modes.
The 9900 can only get better08-06-11 09:19 AMLike 0 - So I read through all 11 pages thus far and not one person bothered to do any actual research on the subject. Here's a great link from the company that makes EDOF cameras for cameraphones...
DxO DOP7+ EDoF: An Ultra Low Cost Alternative to Autofocus
The technology has improved to the point that self portraits, barcodes, business cards, and documents are no longer issues. Macro shots have been improved to 10cm (4 freakin inches!)
Looking at the example pictures of the girl's eyes, I'll take one of the EDOF cameras over an AF any day. I hear that the ISP for the camera may even be integrated in the phone's processor which makes the image processing (allegedly) 240x faster than non-integrated ISPs
Since the company says they have over 40 million EDOF lenses in cameraphones already, I'm guessing the technology works well enough that people just don't care if their phone has AF or not lolLast edited by green_ember; 08-06-11 at 09:26 AM.
08-06-11 09:20 AMLike 3 - kbz1960Doesn't MatterFrom the link given above it seem the edof will be just fine or even better then auto focus unless you take a lot of close up pics. How many people actually take their pics somewhere and have prints made from them?
Even the mega pixel thing is over kill if you never have prints made.08-06-11 09:22 AMLike 0 -
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...ml#post654161108-06-11 11:22 AMLike 0 - Come on people, if anyone thinks any cell phone out there takes good pictures, then you don't know what a good picture looks like.
Anyone with any knowledge of photography spends the most money on their lenses. A lot more. The 9900 is a great smartphone. It's not a camera.
By the way, this is what a good lens looks like.
I've got a Canon 10D that does a bang up job on pictures and I don't think anyone here is saying RIM needs to do that level of picture to remain in the market - what we are saying is that many people who are using the blackberry for work rely on the AF to take pictures of notes or paperwork ( I do this all the time ) Also, many need to take a detailed shot of damage on a car such as rock chips in the paint or other things.08-06-11 11:52 AMLike 0 - kbz1960Doesn't MatterI've got a Canon 10D that does a bang up job on pictures and I don't think anyone here is saying RIM needs to do that level of picture to remain in the market - what we are saying is that many people who are using the blackberry for work rely on the AF to take pictures of notes or paperwork ( I do this all the time ) Also, many need to take a detailed shot of damage on a car such as rock chips in the paint or other things.08-06-11 11:58 AMLike 0
- When you work for a large auto-group doing those types of things is simply called survival...
...We're not talking the Nations secrets or anything like that - just stock numbers, load plans for lots, etc.
...LOL, after reading what I posted I can see how it could look that way.08-06-11 01:14 PMLike 0 - Bla1zeCB OGAT LAST, I HAVE A SOLUTION FOR ALL OF YOU, IT'S QUITE EASY....
Don't like it.... don't buy it.
(We all know that won't happen though. In fact, some of you will have read this thread fully knowing the situation -- still go out and buy it, then come back here and complain about it despite having been fully aware even before buying it -- just so you have something to cry about)08-06-11 02:56 PMLike 6 - Michelle HaagI work here.AT LAST, I HAVE A SOLUTION FOR ALL OF YOU, IT'S QUITE EASY....
Don't like it.... don't buy it.
(We all know that won't happen though. In fact, some of you will have read this thread fully knowing the situation -- still go out and buy it, then come back here and complain about it despite having been fully aware even before buying it -- just so you have something to cry about)lewisc1979 and asdfjkandreax like this.08-06-11 02:59 PMLike 2 -
...The iphone does not have a flash so I shut the flash on the bold off to make it fair.
...The results are obvious in my view - the blackberry takes WAY better pictures.
The 9650 DOES have AF however and this is the worry about the new 9930 / 00.
I will be very interesting when someone posts some pictures they have taken with the new Bold touch and gets them posted so we can put this issue to rest.Last edited by pythons; 08-06-11 at 03:16 PM.
08-06-11 03:01 PMLike 0 - Interesting isn't it! It would be nice if RIM would just overnight me a 9900 or 9930 and I would take the normal pictures I do for my job and compare the ones from the new berry to that of the old - that I can't find any good examples of what the pictures taken from these new devices look like is rather telling. The fastest way to kill the negative aspects of this thread would be to simply throw up some examples of what the camera on the 9900 can do. The video that comes from the 9900 looks very good and we see plenty examples of that YET no pics to speak of.
Last edited by pythons; 08-06-11 at 03:15 PM.
08-06-11 03:11 PMLike 0 - Post them right here, I just ran outside my condo with my Bold 9650 & an iphone 3gs....
...The iphone does not have a flash so I shut the flash on the bold off to make it fair.
...The results are obvious in my view - the blackberry takes WAY better pictures.
The 9650 DOES have AF however and this is the worry about the new 9930 / 00.
I will be very interesting when someone posts some pictures they have taken with the new Bold touch and gets them posted so we can put this issue to rest.08-06-11 03:25 PMLike 0 -
I'm going to cover my bases and make sure I don't have reception issues where I live like I did with Vz - I literally couldn't use the phone where I live on Vz and for the Seattle area it is the absoulte worst carrier for reception I've ever witnessed.08-06-11 03:33 PMLike 0 -
...The PB handed the ipad it's fudge-"C" to it on a paper plate.
The PB does not have AF?
That's the best pic I've seen posted from a playbook and if the 9900 can duplicate that there will be no issue with the camera. THANKS for posting those pics melb!08-06-11 03:37 PMLike 0 - Tre LawrenceBetween RealitiesLOL re: earlier comment asking why someone would want to use a cell phone camera for work pics.
Wow.08-06-11 03:48 PMLike 0
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