[Bold1]

Please see the link below, how it affects those with non UK phones beats me, will you have to register your phone when you visit? but then again what do expect from these people. Any views?

http://timesmobile.mobi/times/tol/story.bsp?1459462436:SM_S=News&SM_ID=2&SM_PAGE=1

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[joe003]

Big brother getting bigger.

Even landlines have you pegged. Stay cool and we'll have nothing to worry about.

[chrism_scotland]

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Its getting a bit ridiculous, so much for living in the free world, think I'll move to Russia at least there Ill be able to buy a phone without ID.

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[Bold1]

My view is that in th UK with our devastating open border control we are now stuffed, we have no clue who is in or out. The new Borders Agency are now set up to deal with this but talk about bolting the stable door after the horse has bolted. These draconian measures are being brought in as the reult of many years of total miss management, how on earth are they going to keep this database up to date when they don't even know who is here? You could buy a pay as you go in France or other European country never mind the rest of the world and use it here, what a mockery and ill thought out piece of nonsense, this I guess will be the start of taxation on phones and the only losers will be law abiding citizens who register. I think it is time to leave the UK, could the last one out please turn off the lights!

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[Branta]

Wrong message board. This belongs in Off Topic

Second thoughts... general interest, BB General boad

Of course its not really about security, surveillance. Its just another way to make ID cards accepted without compulsion.

Come back, Guy Fawkes. All is forgiven.

[Bold1]

Oooh, touchy, touchy! I'm new here so apologies, I have only ever used the Bold forum, although I may soon move to the Nokia forum.

Have you tried the grass's forum? you may find like minded people there!

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[cspec]

Well, there is always Hong Kong.

[Pete6]

When 9/11 happened it was discovered that Swiss purchased SIM cards had been used for communications. At that time it was possible to walk into a Post Office and walk out with any number of Pe-Paid SIM cards withiut showing any ID.

Almost immediately the Swiss authorities instituted and policy that whilst you could still buy a SIM card without showing ID it would not work until you registered it and the unlock code sent to your registered address. In Switzerland this means that they really know where you are.

The UK is just catching up, that's all. Mind you, how many different national passports will be shown in mobile phone shops and will sales assistants be trained to recognise genuine ones from say, Pakistan or Afganistan or, the USA?

This sounds like a bunch of civil servants sitting around and coming up with a solution to a non-existant problem - again.

[BigBadWulf]

I'd say "Give me Liberty or give me death", but since the turn of the last century the dumbmasses in my country have slowly given up their liberties in the pursuit of personal security and punishment of those with the drive to succeed. They seem to not even realize what they are doing, ie:
oppressive graduated taxation, 2nd highest corporate tax rate on earth(and they wonder why their jobs go off shore), mandatory investment in social security/medicare, prohibition, regulation after regulation, government mandated purchase of stock in companies, now supposed right to health care, eminent domain twisted to give local governments the right to take land and give it to someone who will pay more taxes on it...
I could go on and on and on

It's getting to be time for another revolution in the "free world"!

[CBRfanatic]

Everytime I see something like this I always think of the movie V for Vendetta. I think its time for the people to show that we make what these countries are and the gov't should afraid of its people as a whole rather than the people afraid of its gov't.

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[BigBadWulf]

Amen! Power to the sheeple!

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[itravelwv.com]

I'd say "Give me Liberty or give me death", but since the turn of the last century the dumbmasses in my country have slowly given up their liberties in the pursuit of personal security and punishment of those with the drive to succeed. They seem to not even realize what they are doing, ie:
oppressive graduated taxation, 2nd highest corporate tax rate on earth(and they wonder why their jobs go off shore), mandatory investment in social security/medicare, prohibition, regulation after regulation, government mandated purchase of stock in companies, now supposed right to health care, eminent domain twisted to give local governments the right to take land and give it to someone who will pay more taxes on it...
I could go on and on and on

It's getting to be time for another revolution in the "free world"!

McCain is that you? Oh I'm sorry Mrs. Palin

[Bold1]

This was for discussion not to breed dissatisfaction and civil war, can we please moderate the requests for uprisings!

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[BigBadWulf]

No Bob Barr actually, and sorry I did get a little out of hand.

[nmaguire001]

How do I get a passport for my BB without a birth certificate?

[BigBadWulf]

How do I get a passport for my BB without a birth certificate?

Damn, now that's funny!

[CGSCOT]

This is more to do with pay as you go phones, police have found that the guys who plotted recent attacks used pay as you go phones / sims & these can't be traced so thats why they want some sort of ID produced when buying one. Yeah it seems strange as phones could be bought from outside country so theres no real way of controlling it.

If you buy a phone on contract you have to produce some sort of ID, usually 2 pieces of info with your address on or a drivers licence / passport...so its just an extension of that really....those are usualy just to check you credit to see if you can actually pay for the contract you're taking out.

You do know that phone records are kept by the carriers for a certain amount of time & that police can access these if connected to crimes....not seen many people up in arms about that.

If you have a car, have a house, pay rent, credit card, bank card, job, you vote etc your details are out there anyway & its the same old thing...If you have nothing to hide you shouldn't be worried.

I remember when they first spoke about ID cards & people were all up in arms about "i'm not giving my info to the goverment" & so on....only for a petition to appear on the No 10 Government website for people to sign for "No to ID Cards"....loads of people signed it.......but you had to give your details before your name could be registered on the list........so they gave the Government their details buy filling out the form....