anybody else dissapointed with the 9900 price point?
- /facepalm.
The phones are always expensive at launch.. That is how the Carriers make some of their money!
The iphone 4 32gb was expensive at launch and was 250 on a 3 year plan..
Luckly being in charger of BES and all phone contracts i get the latest phone whenever i decide to upgrade someone heheh.. Plus the early upgrade fees are fairly low.
It could be worse.. You could be paying full retail pricing without a contract.08-02-11 09:21 PMLike 0 - That would be the Carriers gouging
RIM can only give a Suggested Retail Price and a Lowest Advertised price they can not dictate pricing, it is actually illegal for them to do so.
The Carriers set their 1y, 2y, 3y subsidized prices based on what they think they can sell it for to maximize their return, on some of the CHEAP $100 dollar Androids they do this to get a customer who can not afford a smartphone into a smartphone with a slightly higher per month dataplan, the same was done with the BlackBerry 85XX series often going for $49 on contract with Free BBM and a data add on monthly and slowly customers would need more and the next phone would be the likes of the 9780
OTOH I am sure senior execs will soon be upgrading to the 9900.08-02-11 09:28 PMLike 0 -
- It will be a bloodbath for RIM if they price their device past that what a person could get an iphone / Droid for....
...It has to be a typo - my guess is that it will be $199.00 on contract for two years.
A mail - in - rebate which finally brings the phone down to $300.00 ( after you get the rebate check ) is outlandish....
...It would be clinical denial on RIM's part - within the mental illness spectrum.
...If it ends up being that price you can take it to the bank RIM is gonna check out.scootnyinzer and Nickerz like this.08-02-11 09:37 PMLike 2 -
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- They think they are "Apple" huh? And like Apple is so fierce? NOT! Their junk is over priced just like anyone elses is, and it's people like you who have made them top off at around 80B in the bank now! There was an article the other day on "just how much does the iPhone 4 really cost?" A break down was done by some company that confirmed prices for all the hardware in the phone (inside and outside) and I believe the total was somewhere around 130 bucks! Yet the retail for the 16GB iPhone 4 is 599! So they are making a good 5 times more of what each phone is worth and pocketing it! I realize there is labor cost as well so ok, knock it down to 4 times...they are robbing people just like all the other "mobile" companies are and you all are falling for it.
Apple is only the company that it is now because of their mobile products, NOT because of their computer sales.
Don't cry now...you guys got them to where they are now.
All I'm saying is I'm disappointed in the price, I have reason to, nothing too far-fetched. It's really high!Nickerz likes this.08-02-11 09:46 PMLike 1 -
BUT the Carriers don't think about the longevity of RIM and RIM's share prices they think about their price point, The Torch Launched at $219 on contact with Rogers I believe within 2 months it was $179 on contract, and Still gets $179 nearly 1 year later.
I really do think that IF this Pricing is true it is T-Mobile looking to get as much as they can while they have the only 9900 device, then once another Carrier launches the device they'll drop it and it will normalize in the $199 range.
RIM has no control here, it is illegal for them to step it and dictate anything on pricing.Masahiro likes this.08-02-11 09:48 PMLike 1 - It will be a bloodbath for RIM if they price their device past that what a person could get an iphone / Droid for....
...It has to be a typo - my guess is that it will be $199.00 on contract for two years.
A mail - in - rebate which finally brings the phone down to $300.00 ( after you get the rebate check ) is outlandish....
...It would be clinical denial on RIM's part - within the mental illness spectrum.
...If it ends up being that price you can take it to the bank RIM is gonna check out.
Honestly do they not teach economics in highschool in the US?
it is illegal for Manufacturers to Fix pricing.
there for you are blaming the wrong people for this pricing!08-02-11 09:49 PMLike 4 - I really don't understand how many times this has to be repeated. RIM has nothing to do with how much T-Mobile charges for their phones. After the carriers buy the phones in bulk from RIM, the rest is up to them.08-02-11 09:53 PMLike 0
- A break down was done by some company that confirmed prices for all the hardware in the phone (inside and outside) and I believe the total was somewhere around 130 bucks! Yet the retail for the 16GB iPhone 4 is 599! So they are making a good 5 times more of what each phone is worth and pocketing it!
Don't cry now...you guys got them to where they are now.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-02-11 09:58 PMLike 0 - It's funny how everybody loves the latest devices until they figure out that they cost money.
The 9900 is the flagship device, built with premium materials, it will command a higher price to differentiate itself from the Torch devices and Curve devices.
I would imagine the Torch devices would fall in below that to address the mid tier market. While the Curve would target the low tier market.
Quality and exclusivity cost money. for the others get a BlackBerry Curve.08-02-11 10:00 PMLike 0 -
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-02-11 10:00 PMLike 0 - It would still make no sense for RIM to ask T-Mobile to charge an exorbitantly high amount for a phone on a 2-year contract. Very few customers will be willing to buy, and T-Mobile will not make a profit. They would end up just pushing some other device instead. In the end, RIM would only lose in this situation.08-02-11 10:01 PMLike 0
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com08-02-11 10:02 PMLike 0 -
BUT not from top players in publicly traded company's who are under heavy scrutiny, especially for detrimental purposes!
IF RIM was to do price fixing for their products it would be tied to fixing carrier costs to the device not the device price itself since RIM would need to have leverage to make a pricepoint and have the carriers hold it.
The benefit to RIM would be to force carriers to have the Subsidized rate at a LOW cost to capitalize on market share growth which is something RIM needs to chase, I am sure RIM is recapturing their margins they lost over the last few quarters with these new devices.JUSTQUAN2 likes this.08-02-11 10:07 PMLike 1 - It's funny how everybody loves the latest devices until they figure out that they cost money.
The 9900 is the flagship device, built with premium materials, it will command a higher price to differentiate itself from the Torch devices and Curve devices.
I would imagine the Torch devices would fall in below that to address the mid tier market. While the Curve would target the low tier market.
Quality and exclusivity cost money. for the others get a BlackBerry Curve.08-02-11 10:07 PMLike 0 - Price fixing is when different suppliers, retailers, etc that are competitors agree to artfically adjust prices. There is nothing illegal with setting a retail price for a product or MRSP. Yes, they teach economics here in high school. Do they where you live?
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You are only permitted to _suggest_ a retail price and set a lowest advertised price, you can not demand a price is sold for X amount as the manufacturer to the distributor. they are free without punitive action to sell at what ever price they like08-02-11 10:10 PMLike 0 - $199 on contract is the ceiling but all but the most advanced, premium handsets in the US. This device is not that. Sorry maybe in April it would have been, but not August. If it had an OMAP 4 and they could guarantee me an upgrade to QNX when available then I'd say OK, but for an A8, single core setup that's half a year late, no way. I'm hoping that the spelling errors show that this is a just a pathetic joke.08-02-11 10:11 PMLike 0
- Almost 2 years ago I bought my 8900 for a Christmas sale price of $100/ 2 yr contract, but was offered $75 for my old phone, an 8700g, so I paid $25 out of pocket. My guess is that the phone will come out for $299 after MIR initially, but then there will be holiday sales and trade-up deals.
Pricing the Bold 9900 the same as an iPhone is about as stupid as pricing a Playbook the same as an iPad ---- errr ---- nevermind.08-02-11 10:12 PMLike 0
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