WhatsApp, LiveProfile, Ping, Kik, AIM, Google Talk, MSN, ICQ, etc... You know what the problem with all these are? There's too freaking many of them. It's hard enough trying to talk people into using Gtalk, nevermind WhatsApp or LiveProfile.
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WhatsApp, LiveProfile, Ping, Kik, AIM, Google Talk, MSN, ICQ, etc... You know what the problem with all these are? There's too freaking many of them. It's hard enough trying to talk people into using Gtalk, nevermind WhatsApp or LiveProfile.
When I bought my first Android device in the store last year, coming from a BB on the 44.99 plan, the guy asked me if I was keeping corp mail on my new phone, I said yes, he said doesn't matter and put me on the 29.99 plan anyhow. Why he even asked if it doesn't matter, I have no idea.
I'm seeing new BB plans that excludes "email and web browsing" but allows social access such as BBM, MSN, AIM, Yahoo, etc. At least in Canada there aren't any "data" plans for BB anymore, you pay extra for access ($25 at Koodo). I still have my legacy $45 BB plan that includes access to BIS and social networking, these days $45 gets you just access to the messenger networks without web browsing and emails.
Seems like you had a good rep. I couldn't get anyone to guarantee that I'd be grandfathered into my $15/mo 150MB data plan if I switch to a new smartphone :(
Funny, I get the same droning rhetoric from people who claim the same thing from Pingchat AND WhatsApp...
Too bad I would have to run all 3 to talk everyone and cover all the bases...
Your battery comparison is nonsense. You didn't identify the devices, battery size, running applications, and about 30 other variables that can impact that performance.
And really... Like a previous poster asked, why do you even care? You were whining in another thread that RIM devices don't allow Skype. You claimed you were done with BlackBerries. You don't want the product they provide. It's not like you were misled, bought one, and are suddenly outraged. Move on.
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hi guys,
potential nokia refuge with a noob question. BIS gets me my email? does it act as the aggregator for my yahoo/exchange/pop/etc? can the BB do email without BIS?
also is BIS tied to the carrier? i am on ye ole data plan now that'd i'd prefer to keep, would BIS just work with no changes on my providers side?
thanks and sorry if these are to noobish :)
I don't think BlackBerry's work without BIS/BES. You have to have it. There is no way to check your email without it. There is no sync or check now button... it just pushes when you have mail. You can't say to yourself, lemme check my mail right this second and hit a sync button.
Thought the name was familiar! Just another set up for another argument...
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I do use a iPhone 4 on occasion and after waiting for 15 minutes for it to find my email I miss the p|ss poor notification"!:rolleyes:
In the UK, you can get the minimum data plan you like (as low as �10/month up to maybe �60/month) and BIS is an extra �5 on top of whichever data plan you choose.
For that you get unlimited data, BBM and the benefits of compressed data etc.
Seems worth it IF you want a BB plan. If not, you have to pay a lot more for data packages with other OS plans, I think.
You also need to consider the security from BIS. If your email/IM server supports SSL, BIS will automatically encrypt emails/im it sends and receives over the internet.
Source: http://docs.blackberry.com/en/smartp...001-3.0-US.pdf
Wrong, only O2 charge like that, all the rest charge �5 for 500mb of bis data, that's all.
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Maybe I'm on the forum....but some BlackBerry users are mindless slave drones lol. Push e-mail is antique at this point.
If I could get the solid reliability and great tactile keyboard of a BB without the slow crappy BIS data bottleneck I'd be all over that.
Let's say you are right... Even if you are right, there are people who use BlackBerry not because of the push email system along. I for example, use it because of the physical keyboard and reliability. Yes, I have tried ALL the available phones in Canada(I work at BestBuy and I have tested how the "feel" on each device currently on the market) with physical keyboard and no I don't like the feel of it. (some are heavy on top, some keyboards and slide outs, etc, etc)
I find iPhone users to be the most mindless people on earth because they don't have different options of iPhone, but just iPhone!!! At least BlackBerry has variety that so each user can pick whatever fits the best.
Having said that... there are many devices not available in Canada. Droid Pro for example.
Sprint still doesnt have 'tiered' data plans. When i first got my Evo4g I was using 7-8GB of data a month. Setup a wifi network at work though and it dropped to 3gb now.
I remember when I had teh Bold that my data usage was SIGNIFICANTLY less. Probably from not browsing as much but BIS really reduces the amount of data usage.
The only reason I would want to use a BlackBerry is because of its keyboard. Over here in Finland, the BlackBerry services are not supported so if you want to use BB, just get your unlimited mobile broadband and pop your SIM to your device.
You will enjoy the same push service with BB, Android, iPhone, Nokia e.t.c (You just need a SIM with mobile broadband subscription)
Only thing missing is the BB messenger which can be substituted by using PingChat or WhatsApp :D
Push mail is antique? Client polling has been around a lot longer than server push- I remember back in the 90's my Eudora email client would poll every 30 seconds and boasting how fast email deliveries are. Android devices has the option to turn on/off background data, which eats battery because it's letting active apps poll every so seconds-minutes while BB's don't need to poll anything.
Also there's waaaaaaaay too many IM apps out there now, I'm not a fan of many of them, SMS, BBM, Yahoo and MSN are enough for me, I don't have any contacts that uses gtalk, pingchat, Whatsapp or such.