1. Minarets's Avatar
    So many os updates for th 9900, and now 7.1... and the 9930 is still stuck on it's first update.

    What gives?
    11-25-11 04:32 PM
  2. ThatsAngel's Avatar
    I read on the forums here that the 9900 is simply the more common and widely-used device, meaning more OS updates are designed for that platform. Still doesn't fully explain why it's so neglected, but it is what it is.
    11-25-11 04:35 PM
  3. Minarets's Avatar
    I read on the forums here that the 9900 is simply the more common and widely-used device, meaning more OS updates are designed for that platform. Still doesn't fully explain why it's so neglected, but it is what it is.
    I'll. Be joining the ranks this week, via Sprint, and I am already getting worried.
    11-25-11 04:36 PM
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    Maybe the gsm one is the one with all the problems and that's why it needs so many updates.
    11-25-11 04:43 PM
  5. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    It's a simple issue of market share. AFAIK, the 9930 is not sold outside of the US. Even CDMA carriers in China do not sell it.
    11-25-11 04:48 PM
  6. pcgizmo#IM's Avatar
    Maybe the gsm one is the one with all the problems and that's why it needs so many updates.
    LOL, that's be my guess. 9930 doesn't "get left so far behind". I'd rather have a solid phone on the best network, than more updates in more dead zones. I'm sure 7.1 for 9930 will be coming soon.
    11-25-11 04:54 PM
  7. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    It's a simple issue of market share. AFAIK, the 9930 is not sold outside of the US. Even CDMA carriers in China do not sell it.
    Along with this, there are other factors that make the 9930 specifically more rare to see a software leak. For example, regional carriers like US Cellular don't even carry the 9930. They do however carry the 9850 and 9350. So as 9930 owners, our only hope is for Verizon and Sprint to leak/approve of a higher build.

    Verizon just approved 374 last month, so I can't see them releasing another for a few months. On the other hand, Sprint still hasn't updated their original launch OS. I think we should see something from them anytime now whether it's a higher 7.0 build or early 7.1.
    11-25-11 05:04 PM
  8. albee 1's Avatar
    So many os updates for th 9900, and now 7.1... and the 9930 is still stuck on it's first update.

    What gives?
    And how many complaints do you see here on CB for the 9900 compaired to the 9930? I've had a 9930 for 4+ months with one update and zero issues. I am not feeling left out in the least!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-25-11 06:59 PM
  9. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    So many os updates for th 9900, and now 7.1... and the 9930 is still stuck on it's first update.

    What gives?
    What makes you as this question? There my be more updates for 9900 but just as many 9930 devices but far more "BRICK" complaints about 9900 so what do you think is better?
    11-25-11 07:08 PM
  10. Minarets's Avatar
    Well, I am perfectly ok if it's a case where the 9930 truly is more stable. I just assumed there are more issues with the 9900 since there are more out there like many of you have stated.

    I have always kind of lumped all issues as a 99xx problem, not really a specific version or carrier problem. If that's the case, then never mind.

    I just get paranoid a little as I am going from a very frustrating phone from corporate (HTC touch pro2) to this one. I am excited for a new phone and this BB at it's best sounds awesome and a true upgrade from what I have now. But, as buggy as mine is now (HTC tp2), I don't want to do that again for a year.
    11-25-11 07:35 PM
  11. alexdrans's Avatar
    More 9900s means more breaks, there are a LOT more 9900s than 9930s. Blackberries are more popular outside of the US.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-25-11 07:46 PM
  12. Phill_UK's Avatar
    Stop kidding yourselves guys!

    CDMA is dead technology, that's why we're seeing more OS releases for GSM devices.

    And if you think there are more reports of bricked 9900's than 9930's, then think again... http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...9/#post6843024

    You do the math.

    Considering there are tens of thousands more 9900's on the global market than 9930's... I'd be pretty worried if I owned a 9930
    11-25-11 08:05 PM
  13. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    Stop kidding yourselves guys!

    CDMA is dead technology, that's why we're seeing more OS releases for GSM devices.

    And if you think there are more reports of bricked 9900's than 9930's, then think again... http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...9/#post6843024

    You do the math.

    Considering there are tens of thousands more 9900's on the global market than 9930's... I'd be pretty worried if I owned a 9930
    I agree CDMA is a dieing tech and all remaining carriers will transition fully to LTE. But that isn't the specific problem with the shortage of software updates. RIM is equally developing cdma-variant device software. The issue is, like many have already stated, is that the probability of a CDMA carrier leak/official release is far less than that of the hundreds of GSM carriers out there.

    I have no question there are 7.1 CDMA builds out there. The issue is who's gonna leak it? Verizon? Sprint? Not likely.

    Like I said before, Sprint is still on 7.0.0.241. They are bound to update their software officially soon. That is about our only chance of an update soon unless we see something leak.
    11-25-11 08:16 PM
  14. Phill_UK's Avatar
    Sorry Cam... I was just venting about all the misinformed "more 9900 brick complaint" posts in this thread

    [/rant over]
    11-25-11 08:24 PM
  15. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    Oh no, you were spot on! I used to think the 9930s were free of the issue like others. Then mine went...followed by several others as you'll see in the list thread. It seems to be an issue found in 9900/9930/9850/9860s.
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    11-25-11 08:31 PM
  16. Minarets's Avatar
    I too think its wishful thinking to assume only 9900 have problems and 9930 are more problem free and that is why there are not more software updates. I just would think spri t and verizon would be more proactive about getting out releases.

    Can you put .374 from Verizon on a sprint phone? Make any difference? Better battery life?
    11-25-11 09:50 PM
  17. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    I too think its wishful thinking to assume only 9900 have problems and 9930 are more problem free and that is why there are not more software updates. I just would think spri t and verizon would be more proactive about getting out releases.

    Can you put .374 from Verizon on a sprint phone? Make any difference? Better battery life?
    Of course! They're interchangeable. From my experience, 374 is the most stable build currently out for the 9930.
    11-26-11 12:13 AM
  18. snihed's Avatar
    Of course it is, that's because it's the only update we have so far! Just want to break the notion too of 9930's being US-only, i had my device since last month, unlocked verizon 9930, i am from the Philippines. Since the phone is gsm-capable as well, i would assume there are also a great # of 9930 users all over the world. Never had any problems with mine since there isn't that much stuff to tinker with in the first place, us users are really being deprived of these leaks/updates which 9900 users enjoy. It's a shame really.
    11-26-11 02:02 AM
  19. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Of course it is, that's because it's the only update we have so far! Just want to break the notion too of 9930's being US-only, i had my device since last month, unlocked verizon 9930, i am from the Philippines. Since the phone is gsm-capable as well, i would assume there are also a great # of 9930 users all over the world. Never had any problems with mine since there isn't that much stuff to tinker with in the first place, us users are really being deprived of these leaks/updates which 9900 users enjoy. It's a shame really.
    What I meant when I said "US-only" is that only US carriers sell the 9930. You bought a VZW device that was unlocked and works with your carrier, since the 9930 is a world phone. However, if you were to visit a shop in the Philippines to purchase a new device, they would not offer the 9930.
    11-26-11 02:06 AM
  20. snihed's Avatar
    What i was saying is there are some who think 9930's can only be used in the US, but that's beside the point here, i think we both agree we are being starved of updates. I bought mine straight from the US but the unit can be purchased here in Manila although not thru official carriers.
    11-26-11 02:19 AM
  21. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    What i was saying is there are some who think 9930's can only be used in the US, but that's beside the point here, i think we both agree we are being starved of updates. I bought mine straight from the US but the unit can be purchased here in Manila although not thru official carriers.
    That is true.

    The reason, though, for the lack of updates, is because only the US carriers offer official OSes.

    For the GSM-only devices, such as the 9900 (or any other GSM device), it is usually a carrier from Europe or Asia that releases a new OS before a North American carrier does so.

    AT&T is not any quicker to release new OS updates than VZW is.
    11-26-11 02:29 AM
  22. kostnkost's Avatar
    11-26-11 04:32 AM
  23. ryankidd17's Avatar
    dont expect any updates for the 9930... the carriers dont care, and the more 9930 owners post, the more 9900 owners gonna tell you crap cause they dont care either...
    11-26-11 12:55 PM
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